From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V6 #70 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Sunday, March 18 2001 Volume 06 : Number 070 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: new '84 Dolby interview posted ["Robin" ] Re: Alloy: new '84 Dolby interview posted [Russell Milliner Subject: Alloy: new '84 Dolby interview posted I've just published another interview from my vast magazine collection; please visit http://www.robinthurlow.addr.com/ThomasDolby884.htm for a very good and interesting article! I've always felt a little funny about typing up information I know is not correct, yet I don't want to edit the original article as it was written. Dave suggested that I annotate it & I think it works out fairly well! There's something else in the article I'm not sure of (was Matthew Seligman really ever in Thompson Twins?? I've heard this here & there but I thought his connection to Thomas was solely through working with Bruce Woolley) Any typos or other things I should annotate in your opinions, please let me know. xxxxx Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 09:44:10 -0500 From: Russell Milliner Subject: Re: Alloy: new '84 Dolby interview posted The article is great, and I believe the footnotes work quite well. A couple of comments/suggestions though: Red and black may look good together, but they have horrible contrast when trying to read. Not to mention people with color blindness problems may not be able to read it at all. Maybe put the text into a single table cell and make that table cell's background white. So the page would have the red border. Also take a little advantage of the medium and make your footnote symbols hot links to the footnote. And put by the footnote a return link back to the line with the reference. - -Russell http://www.pobox.com/~milliner/ Robin wrote: > > I've just published another interview from my vast magazine collection; please > visit > > http://www.robinthurlow.addr.com/ThomasDolby884.htm > > for a very good and interesting article! > > I've always felt a little funny about typing up information I know is not > correct, yet I don't want to edit the original article as it was written. > Dave suggested that I annotate it & I think it works out fairly well! There's > something else in the article I'm not sure of (was Matthew Seligman really > ever in Thompson Twins?? I've heard this here & there but I thought his > connection to Thomas was solely through working with Bruce Woolley) Any typos > or other things I should annotate in your opinions, please let me know. > > xxxxx > Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 12:19:47 -0500 From: "Robin" Subject: Re: Alloy: new '84 Dolby interview posted Thanks for your suggestions Russ, I really like the idea of linking the relevant text to the footnotes. I'll have to do a little reading & see how to go about doing this. I think very much along non-digital lines but want to develop instincts for working within the medium as you say. I'm sorry if my black text on red gave you trouble reading it. Did anyone else have problems? I have to say that as queen of visually-triggered headaches I didn't have trouble reading or typing this up. I use myself as a Guinea pig for this kind of thing when working with colors/patterns but there may well be those out there with greater sensitivity. For red/green colorblindness, I think the red on my page would work out to be anywhere from a 30% to 40% neutral field, so hadn't thought black text would be hard to see for those with this type of vision. (Dave and I knew a painter who was color blind so I do think about this when I'm working on anything!) But, I could be badly mistaken, it's been known to happen! I can easily revise the color scheme. I'm putting these interviews up for you to read so it's no good having them translate out as illegible. xxxx Robin T - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Milliner" To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 9:44 AM Subject: Re: Alloy: new '84 Dolby interview posted > > The article is great, and I believe the footnotes work quite well. A > couple of comments/suggestions though: > > Red and black may look good together, but they have horrible contrast > when trying to read. Not to mention people with color blindness > problems may not be able to read it at all. Maybe put the text into > a single table cell and make that table cell's background white. So > the page would have the red border. > > Also take a little advantage of the medium and make your footnote > symbols hot links to the footnote. And put by the footnote a return > link back to the line with the reference. > > -Russell > http://www.pobox.com/~milliner/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:49:35 -0800 (PST) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: OT - Calling All Guitarists Wow!! Thanks you guys, that's really helpful -- Crackers and Ian, and Robin for her off-list encouragement as well. I've gone ahead and ordered some music online, from sheetmusiconline.com. One of these books turns out to be "easy solos" so that's probably not what I was looking for (although it has an accompanying CD so I'll hang on to it for later.) I also picked up a campfire-songs ukulele book, because we have one of those around here someplace. I tried many moons ago to 'get the hang' of ukelele but I determined that I'd better start with guitar and progress from there. I've started with an "easy guitar" American folk songs book, and the sheet music for the Crowded House best-of CD, Recurring Dream. It seemed like a decent popular-music choice to start, but if anyone has other ideas please let me hear 'em. > I concur with Crackers on this one. I picked up the guitar in '93 after 15 > years of drumming. I have a steel string but wish I had a classical. It is > not a fast pick strumming kinda guitar... the strings won't take it. I > suggest learning some finger-style patterns. These aren't too hard to learn > and can be very beneficial (especially when you are all out of picks) > > If you like I can send you an email with a few easy lessons and chord types > for you? What kind of songs would you like to learn first? I've been over to the local guitar store three times and keep forgetting to get a pick! So I'm glad to hear you say I'm okay learning it without one. I've already broken a string.. not even sure how that happened. Anyway, I have a reasonably modest goal -- playing kid songs that we sing already, and general campfire songs. Nothing too complicated, as then I wouldn't be able to drink beer and concentrate! Heh. Now that they're getting older we're hoping to make camping part of our family life. It's too bad, in fact, that I can't learn something in a week: we're taking a two-day 4x4 offroad run across the Mohave Desert next weekend. Needles to Barstow on No Pavement. I'm told the stars will be "like you've never seen them before." Should be fun! That's the sort of thing I'm talking about. This summer, we plan to trek to Coyote Flats in the Sierras. Anybody know anything about trout fishing? :) Thanks for the help, and Ian if you know some good beginner stuff you're willing to share, I'm all ears! xoxo Elaine - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, California Sources said Turner stared at one and said, "At first I thought you were in the earthquake" in Seattle that day. "But I realized you're just Jesus freaks. Shouldn't you guys be working for Fox?" - New York Post online, Saturday, March 10, 2001 Ted Turner to ash-wearing employees on Ash Wednesday ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 14:01:58 -0800 (PST) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: OT - Calling All Guitarists > If you want to learn campfire songs learn the following chords. > > G maj, C maj, D maj. Those three chords will not only cover you for 99% of > popular folk music but also about 60% of all rock songs. These are very > easy chords to learn and to switch from too. Want to play in keys other > than G? Grab a capo and slap it on the appropriate fret. This is funny because I was also told that learning the three major chords qualifies me to be in The Clash! I'm heartened, looking through this folk songs book, because the majority have only 3 to 5 chords. The discouraging part is, though, some of these chords look as if you need to be a hand contortionist. But I'm sure everybody felt that way at one time. > pretty lucky she came into my life. I can't help but wonder how many other > people have had their love for music crushed by stodgey old music teachers > who are likely bitter because they're unable to compose any works > themselves. This is true for me as well, in fact, I am an answer to your question. I did give up piano in high school -- partly due to stodgy teachers, partly lack of encouragement, mostly frustration. When I got really discouraged and gave up, I wish someone had handed me a guitar. Here I am 15-some-odd years later, trying to get myself back in the swing. If my kids are interested, I intend to support them fully -- and getting them "interested" includes sticking with it myself this time. > (Have fun from hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) I will !!!!!!!!! (I think) (Thank you :-) !) Btw I misread your Simpsons post, sorry bout that. Elaine (Pay attention from hell!!) - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA USA " 'Necessity' is the plea for every infringement of human liberty; it is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." -- William Pitt ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 17:28:17 -0500 From: "Mary A. Brown" Subject: Alloy: new '84 Dolby interview posted Dear Robin, Yes, it is true that Matthew Seligman was part of the Thompson Twins, back when they were a large group of people instead of just the three. Both he and Thomas are on the album called "In the Name of Love" in the US and "Set" in the UK. Speaking of Matthew, is anyone in the San Francisco area going to see the Soft Boys in April? Perhaps we could meet beforehand... As far as the corrections go, my advice is not to get too bogged down in them. I knew for ages that Thomas was not born in Cairo (apparently his mother was annoyed whenever she read that since she had never been there!) but never said anything because I felt like the character "Thomas Dolby" was born there. I always got the impression that Thomas rather liked this mystique other people created for him and never felt compelled to set anyone straight. Just my two cents worth. Oh, and showing my true geekdom here, does anyone know if the Howard the Duck bubble gum card series contained one with Thomas as the beatnik bartender? I bought quite a few of them but never found that one so I'm curious as to whether such a thing doesn't exist or I just happened not to get it. Europa ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 22:35:11 -0500 From: "Robin" Subject: Re: Alloy: new '84 Dolby interview posted Thanks again Russ for your gracious assistance, I always wondered what that peculiar 'name' field was for! I'll see what I can do about making the latest interview more legible. Hope I don't end up making it even worse. Wish me luck! And thanks Europa for your reassurance that Mr Seligman was indeed a Thompson Twin once. No need to annotate it then :) Robin T ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V6 #70 **************************