From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V6 #44 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Tuesday, February 20 2001 Volume 06 : Number 044 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Memoribilia authenticity and worst photo / best moment ["Tim Hudso] Alloy: Gate to the Minds Eye ["teresa adams" ] Re: Alloy: TMDR mentioned in 'cassingles' article [Robin Thurlow Subject: Alloy: Memoribilia authenticity and worst photo / best moment Hi, I was listening to the BBC World Service the other day and they had a fetaure on Rock memoribilia for auction. Turns out that when the Beatles were famous everyone in their entourage were making their signatures because everywhere they went the demand for autographs was endless and enormous. So apparently, according to the expert - i think he was from Southerbys, or Phillips - or one of the big London Auction houses - virtualy anyone travelling with the Fab four was pushed into signing bits of paper for them. This means that nowadays something like 1 in 9 Beatles signatures is genuine. As a result - people are more cautious about the authenticity of Beatles signatures and of buying them at auction unless they have a very good provenance. When asked what unusual items had sold well - the expert replied that a builder from near Weybridge in Surrey had rescued John Lennon' s Semi circular plastic bath - which had been thrown out for disposal when John sold the house to Ringo. Luckilly for the builder there had been a series of John and Yoko 'bath shots' which showed the bath - with distinctive marks and in combination with the building receipts the artical was proved genuine. It thus was sold for a lot of money ( cant remember how much and who too). So the moral of the story is that its no good actually having something cool like John Lennons bath unless you can prove it to be original beyond doubt. There is bound therefore as always to be the question of validity with autographs. So - what items of memoribilia do Alloy members have that they can prove beyond doubt are genuine? Not just TMDR but other stuff too. I was lucky enough to have met Alan Shepard one of the appolo astronauts and have an autographed copy of his book 'Moonshot' which he co wrote with fellow astronaut Deke Sleyton. I have a terrible photograph of the great man signing my book while I am standing there in the background looking fat and ugly and grinning like an idiot. I cant bear to look at the photograph but I often run my fingers of the signature with awe. But one day, that terrible photo of me and him will prove the authenticity of the signing and one of my distant relatives will know that they have an authentic signiture from the fifth man to walk on the moon. [ theres probably hundres of thousands of his autograph out there ] He died shortly after I met him at Surrey University in Guildford and I can never look up at the moon and not think about his courage and the courage of all astronauts. I'm not sure how many men who walked on the moon are still left alive? Must stop as I'm rambling on so terribly here ! Just to say proof of Dolby memorabilia authenticity is essential !! Why is it that at one of the greatest moments in my life meeting a man who walked on the moon - I had to have the 'dorkest' photo taken ever ? Probably cos I am one. {I can here you all saying. Just fishing for sympathy here and I can see its not working so I'll stop. the question again then So - what items of memoribilia do Alloy members have that they can prove beyond doubt are genuine? Not just TMDR but other stuff too? I can see Robins files will be bulging with useless bits of trivia about our favourite memoribillia now. and also anyone else had their worst photo taken at the best moment? Tim. P.S. cheers Bill for the beatnik explanation. - -- Tim Hudson tim_hudson@zdnetonebox.com - email ___________________________________________________________________ To get your own FREE ZDNet Onebox - FREE voicemail, email, and fax, all in one place - sign up today at http://www.zdnetonebox.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 06:58:23 -0700 From: "teresa adams" Subject: Alloy: Gate to the Minds Eye Hello, All I just bought TMDRs 'Gate to the Minds Eye' on DVD for $2.00. For those in Colorado you can find it at Flat Irons Crossing Mall in Broomfield at Sam Goody. I was looking for the other 3 series, but I could not find them. I haven't had a chance to view it yet cause I'm still in the process of getting a DVD player. Hey, $2.00 is a steal and it's nice to have the added extras. This is the second DVD that my love Dennis and I own but were not able to view them. LOL Fare thee well, Teresa _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:03:11 -0500 From: Robin Thurlow Subject: Re: Alloy: TMDR mentioned in 'cassingles' article "M. R. Jordan" wrote: > There had been an article titled something like, "Harry Potter Books > Causing Increase in Satanism Among Children." Somebody sent it to this guy, > and he thought it was for real! Oh... my... god... is all I can say about that. I believe it, because there is a huge contingent here in my area of upstate NY which believes Harry Potter books are evil!! It's hard to believe how much this area has changed in the last ten years - when we moved back here from Boston I was shocked. Economic depression and isolation are to blame I think. When I was growing up here we were lucky enough to have highly intelligent, skilled people coming here from all over the world thanks to the success of IBM, and my area seemed pretty worldly to me then. There were students from Germany, the Netherlands, Britain, Africa, India, Japan, China etc attending my high school because they'd moved here with their parents. In the last ten years IBM has suffered some great losses & there isn't that kind of social interchange here anymore... it's really altered things for the worse. I think when people aren't exposed to other cultures, and don't have a chance to make friends who may be completely different from themselves, it leads to a scary sort of conservatism leading to haterd and violence. It's really not fun to be stuck in a place like this. Dave and I are getting over our Boston 'city burnout' after two years, and really want to move back to a metropolitan area. if NYC weren't so expensive i think we'd be there now - and i *never* thought i'd hear myself say that again!! xxxx Robin T ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V6 #44 **************************