From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V6 #41 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Saturday, February 17 2001 Volume 06 : Number 041 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Is this better than Beatniks sonification approach? ["Tim Hudson" ] RE: Alloy: Is this better than Beatniks sonification approach? ["Krzysko,] Alloy: TMDR mentioned in 'cassingles' article ["Robin" Subject: Alloy: Is this better than Beatniks sonification approach? Hi everyone, please read all of this message before hitting the link. If your PC can cope with sound and you like interactive music on the web you should have a go at this site: Its an amazingly silly bit of interactive Macromedia Flash animation that lets you make your own interactive Hip Hop, Rap and Scratch music. You need to drag the records on to the turntables before you can scratch them and spin them. Do click around all over the image for example on the stage lights and audience and in the speech bubbles on the MC as there is quite a lot to discover embedded in the images. There are a variety of breakbeats and loops and scratches to choose from. Click on the record box to choose different discs. And if you discover the microphones - click on those too as they bring in vocal hits. You'll have your PC grooving in seconds and its a real blast. Finally and most suprisingly of all this development was funded by the European Commission as one of their research and development projects - - presumably to encourage children to develop an interest in IT. To close: their are two distict and different DJ interfaces one is 'Old School' and the other is 'New School' so when you get bored with one do go back to the link above and try the other. I presume this is a different approach to sonifying the web than Beatnik and would be interested to hear from anyone at Beatnik - not necesarilly Thomas - as to what is going on technically here and why it is different than Beatnik. More to the point why Beatnik is better than this. I think its Macromedia Flash 'rollovers' that trigger the sounds below the image. Any comments anyone. I think its quite good fun. It isnt any Rap Attack! [Hyperactive] Tim in sunny Luxembourg City. OK time for you to visit Germany below.....good luck. http://www.turntables.de/start.htm - -- Tim Hudson tim_hudson@zdnetonebox.com - email ___________________________________________________________________ To get your own FREE ZDNet Onebox - FREE voicemail, email, and fax, all in one place - sign up today at http://www.zdnetonebox.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 20:40:18 -0600 From: "Krzysko, Bill" Subject: RE: Alloy: Is this better than Beatniks sonification approach? I just finished making something like this for a client. It's not hard to do in flash, your just playing loops of music and turning the volume on or off. Beatnik is more sophisticated. The flash example is just a recording of music. Beatnik takes the "sheet music" of a composition and performs it each time it is played. So, for example, if you wanted to change the beats per minute of the Flash example, you could speed up the loop, but that would change the pitch of the music. In Beatnik, you would just tell it to play faster, and it would play the proper notes and sounds at a faster rate. To be honest, Beatnik might be overkill for a simple rap piece like this. It's advantages become clearer when you are making longer music, you get smaller file size, platform indepence, and copyright protection embeded in the file. I'm sure someone else could explain it in more detail. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-alloy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-alloy@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Tim Hudson Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 2:52 AM To: alloy@smoe.org Subject: Alloy: Is this better than Beatniks sonification approach? Hi everyone, please read all of this message before hitting the link. If your PC can cope with sound and you like interactive music on the web you should have a go at this site: Its an amazingly silly bit of interactive Macromedia Flash animation that lets you make your own interactive Hip Hop, Rap and Scratch music. You need to drag the records on to the turntables before you can scratch them and spin them. Do click around all over the image for example on the stage lights and audience and in the speech bubbles on the MC as there is quite a lot to discover embedded in the images. There are a variety of breakbeats and loops and scratches to choose from. Click on the record box to choose different discs. And if you discover the microphones - click on those too as they bring in vocal hits. You'll have your PC grooving in seconds and its a real blast. Finally and most suprisingly of all this development was funded by the European Commission as one of their research and development projects - - presumably to encourage children to develop an interest in IT. To close: their are two distict and different DJ interfaces one is 'Old School' and the other is 'New School' so when you get bored with one do go back to the link above and try the other. I presume this is a different approach to sonifying the web than Beatnik and would be interested to hear from anyone at Beatnik - not necesarilly Thomas - as to what is going on technically here and why it is different than Beatnik. More to the point why Beatnik is better than this. I think its Macromedia Flash 'rollovers' that trigger the sounds below the image. Any comments anyone. I think its quite good fun. It isnt any Rap Attack! [Hyperactive] Tim in sunny Luxembourg City. OK time for you to visit Germany below.....good luck. http://www.turntables.de/start.htm - -- Tim Hudson tim_hudson@zdnetonebox.com - email ___________________________________________________________________ To get your own FREE ZDNet Onebox - FREE voicemail, email, and fax, all in one place - sign up today at http://www.zdnetonebox.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 23:28:05 -0500 From: "Robin" Subject: Alloy: TMDR mentioned in 'cassingles' article Thomas has just forwarded me something I thought everyone here would love! visit: http://www.theonion.com/onion3705/collection_of_cassingles.html to read the article. Larry Harroway rules - and so does his passion for cassingles. xxxxx Robin T harboring her own passion for photographs and interviews :) ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V6 #41 **************************