From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V5 #299 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Thursday, December 14 2000 Volume 05 : Number 299 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: (OT!!!) correspondence mayhem [Robin Thurlow Subject: Alloy: (OT!!!) correspondence mayhem to everyone who's written to me within the last couple of weeks, I'm hopelessly behind on my email right now so please forgive the delays! But in short, to Elaine, you may certainly quote me :) Not to be cryptic to everyone else... this has to do with something I wrote to her about Al Gore that she thought was funny. As per the election, my favorite moment of all was when Dave told me over the weekend he'd heard it might go to Congress to decide, and because of the way the partisan votes would fall - voting independently for president and vice-president - - Congress might end up deciding for Bush for president, and Lieberman for vice-president. Another potential bi-partisan nighmare brought to me by CNN. Looks like this won't have to happen after all though. Anyway I'll write proper letters soon i promise. xxxxxxxxx Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:33:44 -0500 From: Robb & Tara Subject: Alloy: She turned me into a newt. I got better. Robyn M- Thanks for the clue on GEMM, I'll go check it out. I don't really know the title of the Wiccan practice we were in in Las Vegas, but I must say it's of a similar type, since the place I mentioned before is on the edge of the Shoshone lands. Yes, quite a lot of the American Indian influence, with some workshops on that topic. But not much Celtic influence at all; more of a focus on women's issues, and the family. Sure beats Christianity; you get to thank Mother Earth and the like, as opposed to being Dad for forgiveness all day long. But that's my opinion... Here's how they used the location and built it, so you can do the same when you win the lottery: A well-to-do woman bought land directly across from the Indian Springs AFB, which was not selling due to location (middle of the desert next to a military installation - actually five miles down the road); the US Government was about to appropriate it to expand the base. The Shosone tribe claimed it was theirs, but naturally had no pull when it comes to that sort of thing (sad, isn't it?). She bought the land and donated it to the Shoshone, with the only stipulation that she could build a temple there in honor of the goddess Sekmet (sorry about that spelling, please verify it), and a space for a caretaker to stay/live there. The tribe agreed. The US Air Force lost out. One for the good guys. When I say temple don't think of a massive Roman building. Try more like a 20x20' structure that has an open ceiling to the sky, and four doorways (no doors) facing each of the compass points, with a fire pit in the middle. In an isolated desert landscape half a mile or so from the two-lane desert highway. You have not seen stars at night unless you have been there (and it's wide open to anybody, anytime). About 50 miles or so NNE from Las Vegas; but to look for Indian Springs on the map, and you're close. Anyway. Music. What to say? Hmmm. Oh, yeah... I would just like to say one thing that comes to mind at the moment. My wife and I were just leaving after the King Crimson performance at the Hard Rock Casino in Las Vegas, I think it was in 1996. As we left, I noticed somebody, (and I do believe it was him), and whispered to my lady, "Billy Idol, 12 o'clock." We didn't stare. But he did, at my wife's butt. Tee hee hee, he said 'butt'. Put that one in the mental scrap book. ~robb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:38:55 -0800 From: "Kathleen T. Presser" Subject: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V5 #298 What to say about religion?? I myself grew up born again christian, converted to Mormonism after marrying a mormon man at the eighteen. I actually converted at age nineteen while we were living in England. Eight years later I decided to divorce my now ex husband and ended up getting excommunicated from the church for sowing my wild oats while being separated. What a relief that was LOL! I've since dabbled in the ancient oracular irish fairy traditions and the cherokee traditions of spirituality. My sons still follow the mormon religion. I can't stand to put myself in any tight fitting religious box anymore. Too confining. I also kinda follow the philosophy of Kundalini Yoga. A little here, a little there balances me out. I seriously believe that religion is a personal sacred thing for each person. As for my third child, since my husband's family is jewish, we'll probably put the jewish religion on our child's birth certificate. I doubt anyone will have trouble with that one. Gee, just to include Thomas in this discussion, has anyone ever wondered what spiritual path or paths he follows????? Just wondering, Kate;-) ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V5 #299 ***************************