From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V5 #260 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Friday, October 27 2000 Volume 05 : Number 260 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: Julie's question [Robin Thurlow ] Re: Alloy: Rare Dolby Tracks & MP3 ["Melissa Jordan" Subject: Re: Alloy: Julie's question Julie Sweeney wrote: > He made the comment, listening to One of Our Submarines, that he still can't > figure out how Thomas can create such lush, full sound, with so much texture, > and yet give that song such a hollow, almost empty sound. The drums have such > a metallic quality, and in general there is an edgier feel to it than much of > Thomas' other music. Our conversation then turned to how he goes about > writing, and I commented that I think he must be one of those who "hears" what > he wants to do, has the big picture almost complete in his mind and then > tweaks and fills in until it's just right. And this led Damien to the big > question, one we thought would make a great discussion for Alloy--if Thomas > had been born a century earlier, with only conventional instrumentation at his > disposal, how would his particular talent have expressed itself? Thomas > without synth--what would his music have sounded like? You're right... this is a very cool question!! One I've wondered about before, being a maker of some very traditional types of classical & early music instruments. I love the nuances of the sound of the wood, the strings, the hair of the bow, even of the musician breathing, when hearing these types of instruments played. One of the things I've always loved so much in Thomas' music is that he can bring out this type of subtlety and very direct, straightforward feel (I have a feeling this is from a combination of his musicianship, his lyrics and his unique, very honest delivery) no matter what instruments he's using. A couple of Christmases ago my husband got me a cd of the music of jazz musician Raymond Scott, who composed some very well-known music for a lot of the early b&w cartoons. In reading the notes on the inside of the cd, I began to see a few strange parallels between Scott's creative process and that of Mr Dolby. Ray Scott really put his band to use as an extension of himself, almost like one would use the synthesizers, samplers & production equipment of modern day. Also, Mr Scott was an inventor, with many patents for recording technology which was quite a bit ahead of its time! I can be more detailed once i get home tonight, and can quote directly off the cd insert (this is my first day back at work, yay! :) but Thomas may well have worked in very much the same manner as someone like Ray Scott. In previous centuries, the pianoforte was very much a sort of 'synth' of its day, in that it could cover the complete range of all the instruments in the orchestra... so no doubt this still would have been Thomas' instrument of choice... Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 12:34:57 EDT From: "Melissa Jordan" Subject: Re: Alloy: Rare Dolby Tracks & MP3 Hi, folks, For Jon and everyone else who might be interested, here's the link to Yesterday and Today Records: http://members.aol.com/yatrec/private/index.htm They have quite a selection of Dolby rarities in their vinyl singles section, and the owners are very knowledgeable. I understand that postage overseas can be pretty pricey from them, but domestic charges are perfectly normal. I was so psyched when I first found them - I was broke and had stopped in at the bakery outlet store next door, looking for cheap bread. I saw the sign for the record store and forgot all about the bread. Instead, I spent all my money on the Airwaves 45 with Wreck of the Fairchild on the flip side. :-) Have fun. Cheers, Melissa (not the virus) >From: "Jon" >Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org >To: >Subject: Re: Alloy: Rare Dolby Tracks & MP3 >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 17:28:34 -0400 > > > Hello Melissa...I would love the name of that site/store as well. I >have never even HEARD some of these tracks (such as The Wreck of the >Fairchild) let alone see them on any kind of media. I want, I want! > >>Jon >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Melissa R. Jordan" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 9:43 AM >Subject: Re: Alloy: Rare Dolby Tracks & MP3 > > > > > > Hi, Terry, > > > > Actually, you can find these vinyl things online, from a record store >called > > Yesterday and Today Records, which is just up the street from me. They >maintain > > a pretty amazing stock of vintage Dolby stuff, including projects I had >no >idea > > he was connected to. If you're interested in this option, please let me >know, > > and I can get the website scoop to you! > > > > Cheers, > > > > Melissa > > > > > > terry.overall@bt.com wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > A fairly sensitive subject given the whole Napster controversy I know. >But > > > like most ardent Dolby fans I have a reasonably complete collection of > > > TMDR's back catalogue, with one or two omissions. > > > > > > I'm missing some of the extremely rare stuff (Low Noise & Fallout Club >being > > > standouts) but there again, who isn't? > > > > > > However in this case, I'm trying to compile all my exisiting rare >stuff >and > > > my vinyl copies of 'Wreck Of The Fairchild', ' Therapy Growth' & >'Jungle > > > Line (live)' are all a bit worse for wear and won't sound too great on >Mini > > > Disc. > > > > > > Obviously in an ideal world I'd love it if the rarities were available >to > > > purchase on-line, or on compilation - but sadly they aren't, and this >begs > > > the question - what is the general policy (if there is one) of Alloy > > > members trading these rare tracks for personal use? > > > > > > Or if you're reading this Thomas, what are the chances of making these > > > tracks available? > > > > > > Thanks All, > > > > > > TEL > > > > > > > -- > > Melissa R. Jordan > > > > Director, Compass Rose Consulting International (http://www.askcrc.com) > > > > Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios (http://www.crstudios.com) > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 18:57:53 EDT From: Spencer2424@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Rare Dolby Tracks & MP3 Mellissa, I agree - I've been buying 45's via mail order from Yesterday and Today for many years now; got some amazing Dolby singles from them awhile back (the Japanese stuff is the coolest). Check 'em out! - - Craig ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V5 #260 ***************************