From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V5 #245 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Tuesday, October 10 2000 Volume 05 : Number 245 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Another fan... [andyjmail@cheerful.com] Alloy: 12x12 [Jon ] Alloy: Dolby and Personal History [robb & tara ] Alloy: gate to the mind's eye [mde@stanfordalumni.org] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 05:20:39 -0400 (EDT) From: andyjmail@cheerful.com Subject: Alloy: Another fan... ++ Sometimes I get stuff like this, which I'll ignore : ++ (!) - ------ Hi. I'm looking for an MP3 of the EXTENDED version of "The Devil is an Englishman" for my daddy. Do you have it or know where I might find it..? I've checked Gnutella and Napster numerous times with no luck. Thanks! LolitaX - ------ ++ Makes me wonder if someone out there is "testing" ++ me! Better though, is the occasional decent message ++ such as these from Tim that you might enjoy... - ------------- Subject: My Budapest moment with Thomas Dolby........ Hi, I'm a Brit living and working in Luxembourg City and I enjoyed your TMDR pages. I cant write a lot at the moment because I am doing this at work and we have to keep our personal emails short..... Lets just say this ..... Please, keep me in touch with anything new from TMDR. I'd love him to bring out your suggested CD compilation. I wish we could all get together and make an online petittion to get him to bring out some more stuff. I am aware of his flat earth site. How did Terry Jackson die by the way ? Us TMDR fans must stick together. Count me in on any TMDR projects or initiatives......... Finally I can honestly say I heard Budapest by Blimp actually in Budapest in a snowstorm standing in the darkness one night on a bridge over the river Danube in front of the Hotel Gellert right in the centre of Budapest .......about five years ago now.....I was all alone and terrified to venture too much further out into the snow and darkness of Budapest. It was a very emotional moment .....all alone in the former Eastern Block......at night - my first night in Budapest .....in the dark with huge snow flakes falling all around......I was terrified it was so surreal but at the same time intensely absolutely magical. And on my Cassette walkman I listened to TMDR sing with his synths chiming through the changes as the snow fell out of the night sky onto the heavey iron bridge girders and into the icy black danube below... The searing guitars, relentless rythem and circling keypads just - awesome........ I can honestly say it was just like being in my own TMDR video....... As I said magical. I'll never forget that experience likewise hearing the Bruce Wooley and the Camera Club on Whistle test and getting the album.......I was a fan therefater.... I guess we should be friends - because I could talk for hours about the years of pleasure his music's given me. must go.... now. cheers for your pages... - -- Tim Hudson tim_hudson@zdnetonebox.com - email - ------------------ ++ That's a good posting! Tim followed up with this... - ------------ Subject: Amazon pulls 12 x 12 original remixes Hi Andy, in a real big hurry today please excuse the brevity.... amazon.co.uk says........ We have contacted our supplier and are sorry to report that the following title is in fact NOT AVAILABLE at present: Thomas Dolby "12x12 Original Remixes" We apologise for the length of time it has taken us to reach this conclusion. Until recently, we had still hoped to obtain this title for you. This unavailable item has been cancelled from your order. Your credit card will NOT BE CHARGED for this item. We expend significant effort to keep abreast of prices and availabilities, but as we rely on suppliers for information about titles, occasionally our catalogue will not reflect all changes. We apologise for any inconvenience such inaccuracies may have caused you. For your reference, here is a summary of your order: 1 of Thomas Dolby "The Flat Earth" 1 dispatched on 04/09/2000 1 of Thomas Dolby "12x12 Original Remixes" Item unavailable. Thank you for shopping at Amazon.co.uk, and we hope to see you again. Sincerely, Customer Service Department Amazon.co.uk .... I'm really miffed as I wanted this one badly....... The Flate Earth CD came OK and replaced my old much loved cassette version...... Poor old Thomas! - he might have been a smidgin wealthier if they'd had it in stock. They did have the picture and track listings and order number and they did say it normally ships within 1 to 2 weeks. I waited two months and then they tell me they cant get it ! How many others have been dissapointed I wonder? I feel for TMDR - because clearly people like me want his music but the record companies or distributers are letting him down. I can understand the logistics of it not going into every record shop but to pull it from a big online outlet like amazon seems .....well ......I just dont think its fair on Thomas. Can you post this on the Alloy listings and tell me how to subscribe to the Alloy list. I checked the amazon.co.uk site and its true they have now withdrawn this title from their catalogue. I waited two months !!! No Cigar ! Merde! Tim. p.s. IF TMDR reads this - Thanks for all the great music and production - from the Camera Club days onwards - please write some more. I love the cinematic quality of your music - it really draws me in - there's nothing else like it, and I'd love to hear some new stuff. I agree with your comments that in a sense your music could be sold in bookshops [a comment on the flat earth site under your discussion of the Sprouts] but how ironic then that Amazon - a company that started selling books can't seem to get it in stock. It's everyone's loss. I wish you all the best and hope that in the future you will still make great music and distribute it or make it available so we can cut out the weak link in the chain. Don't let the record companies stop you from carrying on. We're here on your side. Please find a way around them and carry on making great albums. (as well as the Beatnik initiatives). Best regards. Tim. p.s. I could talk all night about technical stuff and ask you loads of questions but I will resist - as a measure of repect and genuine affection. I just wanted you to know you have one less record on amazon.co.uk and i'm sorry I couldn't contribute a few more pence to the Dolby Retirement Fund. (I did try). Please dont give up. - -- Tim Hudson - -------- ++ I've pointed Tim towards the Alloy FAQ page, and hope ++ he joins us soon, and updated my page (soon) to make ++ the link more "signposted" re: joining. Also, I've ++ pointed him in the direction of Tower Records, that's ++ where I got my 12x12 from. ++ Toodle pip for now, +AndyJ+ - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 18:25:21 -0400 From: Jon Subject: Alloy: 12x12 It's a good thing I picked up a copy shortly after it was released. At this point, Tim, you have to jump on these opportunities as soon as they appear. A life lesson!. On the optimistic side, if I found a copy of Gothic on CD, I am sure you will find a copy of 12x12 eventually. >>Jon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:53:23 -0700 From: robb & tara Subject: Alloy: Dolby and Personal History Okay, here's my first post. What are your earliest TMDR memories? Or just strong ones? Several come to my memory personally, which will date me somewhat. - - Walking thru Kmart, school shopping with the folks, but hanging around the electronics section (boomboxes/tapeplayers were just coming in vogue). All the radios were tuned in to whatever station were playing, yup, Blinded By... - - A friend let me borrow his tape of "The Flat Earth" in '83 (or was it 84? my cd is at work right now...). He almost didn't get it back. Many games of Monoploy were played to that tape, or Atari 2600 games... - - Back in my geekier days, I had an Atari 800 (I think it was, if not a 1200). I got those Atari-specific magazines with programs written in BASIC you had to spend 40 minutes typing in by hand. One was a mono-synth program, I recall clearly. You used the QWERTY keyboard to play the notes. I spent, much to my mom's discomfort, at least three hours playing the bassline right along on the Atari, to "Windpower". I must say, it was a very remarkable facsimile of that bass patch (the Atari had a three-voice synthesis engine; Dolby's Moog had two). Or did he use the PPG for that part? - - Girlfriends & Dolby's slow songs. Need I say more? - - I am personally obsessing (that's an on-going action verb, over time) with "Screen Kiss." Someday I will actually learn how to play it; I'm working on a version for the midi-fied Chapman Stick right now. - - Spent most of the summer of 88 obsessed with the 'Aliens' cd. Wheeeeeee. Never did get to take that 18-hour drive to catch his eastern-most date of that tour, which I regret to this day. - - Speaking of regrets, he did a mini one-man tour through colleges, explaining the whole music-on-computers thing. I found out about it the day after the event. It was a 35-minute drive for me. Is it not in the stars? - - From 1992-1999, I was trying to find a way to word a letter to Mr. D., asking if he had any of his synth patches (sounds) from his old or present Roland synths he could share, if he could find it in his generous heart... too late, sold 3 of the four Rolands. Watch, he'll read this, and the sysex data will show up in my e-mailbox, just my luck... well, then I'll have to go buy them again (pssst, JX-10/MKS-70, JX8P, Juno-1...) - - My son grew up from birth hearing (and watching the video of) Gate's to the Mind's Eye. Not Disney, like other kids. We have him (Finnean) call us by our first names, not 'mommy' and 'daddy,' I think it will garner more respect for us from him when he matures. So whether you realize it or not, Mr. Dolby, you have an active role in a massive one-child social experiment. Results will be in in 12 years or so. YOUR TURN! ========== Well, that's a start. It seems the Alloy community has provided me with another reason to spend several hours in front of the monitior, plus I don't have to drop any money at the bookstore for a while. Wheeee, my internet subscription is justified again! I have spent more time on eBay then I care to enumerate trying to win a copy of the "Gothic" soundtrack. I've got $30 right here for a legit copy, if anyone's offering! (But only if my boss... er, better half says it's okay.) I promise to Beatnik-ify my next Mac, when I get one that's fast enough to tackle it solidly (my clone doesn't like to play nice with external call-ups, i.e. realaudio files, etc.). Sorry! But when I do, look out... Any response out there? Talk soon! ~robb ------------------------------ Date: 9 Oct 2000 14:01:54 -0700 From: mde@stanfordalumni.org Subject: Alloy: gate to the mind's eye So I was in the Hayward, CA Goodguys electronics store...and as I walk in I hear Nuvogue BLASTING! They were playing the gate to the mind's eye DVD on this phenomenal sound system and the songs sounded great! Apparently that's the DVD the makers are sending out for demo purposes. The salesperson told me that he plays Valley and Nuvogue at least 6 times a day because he loves the music so much! monya - ---------------------------------------------- E-mail@stanfordalumni.org is brought to you by the Stanford Alumni Association and Critical Path. ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V5 #245 ***************************