From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V5 #213 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Sunday, September 3 2000 Volume 05 : Number 213 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: Song of the Week - One of our Submarines [Jon ] Re: Alloy: Song of the Week - One of our Submarines ["Melissa R. Jordan" ] Re: Alloy: Song of the Week - One of our Submarines [Robin Thurlow Subject: Re: Alloy: Song of the Week - One of our Submarines i always thought it meant getting oxygen from boiling something...or..uh, er...now that I think of it, I never really knew what he meant by that. I only thought I did! Am very happy to find out he was very proud of it at one point. >>Jon Diva wrote: > > >One of our Submarines > > >Drinking heavy water from a stone > > Can anyone explain that line? I've always wondered about it... > > Sally > diva@tn.prestel.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 01:11:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Monya De Subject: Alloy: Re: alloy-digest V5 #212 hungry heart to regulate their breathing... well, the kursk analysts said that carbon dioxide slowly replaces the oxygen in the sub. hungry for oxygen? regulate their breathing so they don't use up air too fast? monya ****************************************************************** Monya De SUMMER ADDRESS: 592 Mayfield, Room 210 Stanford, CA 94305 (650) 497-5907 MAILING: PO Box 13503 Stanford, CA 94309 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 11:10:51 -0400 From: "Melissa R. Jordan" Subject: Re: Alloy: Song of the Week - One of our Submarines Brian Clayton wrote (about drinking heavy water from a stone): > The image I got from that line is the crew of the submarine, having > depleted or lost their fresh water supply, had to resort to drinking > the heavy water from the ship's reactor. I'm not sure how dangerous > deuterium is (I don't believe it is radioactive, unlike tritium, which > is a hydrogen atom with two neutrons), but drinking *anything* that's > been near a reactor sounds like a desparate move to me. > Neat to see all the different interpretations. I always thought it a poetic way of describing the intensity of high pressure water flooding the sub after it ran into and was ripped open by an immovable object - stone (for it had run around on manouvers...) Non-science girl, Melissa - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist/Rubber Maven, Compass Rose Studios (http://crstudios.com) Chief Navigator, Compass Rose Consulting (http://askcrc.com) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 16:28:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Robin Thurlow Subject: Re: Alloy: Song of the Week - One of our Submarines I'd known about 'heavy water' (from a reactor) but always thought his use of the phrase 'drinking heavy water from a stone' was a little poetic license on 'getting blood from a stone', when talking about something that is impossible. Only in this case, if they were drinking heavy water it was because there was no way around it, but they were effectively already dead anyway because their situation was impossible for them to survive. Though I really like Melissa's idea of the submarine having run aground & the sub being the thing that's 'drinking heavy water' in - I never thought of it that way!! I thought of the 'hungry heart' as the submarine's reactor, which I figure is what powers the air circulation in a sub, and regulating breathing in a way. I know very little about subs, but this is what my 15-year-old imagination conjured up when I first heard the song & it stuck with me. Robin T Brian Clayton wrote (about drinking heavy water from a stone): > The image I got from that line is the crew of the submarine, having > depleted or lost their fresh water supply, had to resort to drinking > the heavy water from the ship's reactor. I'm not sure how dangerous > deuterium is (I don't believe it is radioactive, unlike tritium, which > is a hydrogen atom with two neutrons), but drinking *anything* that's > been near a reactor sounds like a desparate move to me. > Neat to see all the different interpretations. I always thought it a poetic way of describing the intensity of high pressure water flooding the sub after it ran into and was ripped open by an immovable object - stone (for it had run around on manouvers...) Non-science girl, Melissa ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V5 #213 ***************************