From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V5 #134 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Tuesday, May 30 2000 Volume 05 : Number 134 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: calendar project [CJMark@aol.com] Alloy: Dear Robin ... (AKA Calendar Project Prize Giveaway) [DAbbitt32@ao] Re: Alloy: Dear Robin ... (AKA Calendar Project Prize Giveaway) [Paul Bai] Alloy: [OT] Not quite Radio Caroline [Paul Baily ] Re: Alloy: OT: Job searching... yet again. [Dennis S Alexander Subject: Re: Alloy: Dear Robin ... (AKA Calendar Project Prize Giveaway) And on the day of 5/29/2000 4:55 PM, DAbbitt32@aol.com thus did spake... > Because your generosity far exceeds the occasion, on behalf of all us > grateful Alloyites, I think I've come up with a truly viable solution for the > Calendar Project prize ... > > As any of the miscellaneous Dolby paraphernalia in your collection is > obviously far too valuable and personal to give up (or accept, if you're one > of those people submitting material), why not offer up the following, instead: > > Your liver. LOL! As we'd say in Oz: Geez Dabbitt, can't take you anywhere... ;-) P. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 22:19:06 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Alloy: [OT] Not quite Radio Caroline Hi y'all, Wondered if I could ask a slightly OT question of you. I have fond memories of waaay back when I was a child how I'd go around to my grandparents' home and spend ages in front of a gorgeous Grundig valve radio that looked like it was fresh out of the 40's seeing what I could find to listen to. The radio had MW (equiv. AM band), but German excellence in over-engineering being what it was - and is - the radio also had FM (I had no idea of the relevance of this at the time living in a small country town and NZ having all of about three FM stations throughout the whole country, all of which well over the curve.) What fascinated me more was that the tuner also covered in great resolution the long & short wave bands. I say great resolution in that this radio was almost three feet across (most of which taken up by an *awesomely* large and rich sounding woofer which, along with two other speakers, took full advantage of the beautiful wooden cabinet) - it's tuner window took up about 2' of this length and it was one of those setups where you had to turn the tuner knob about a zillion times to get the indicator to go from one side to the other (kinda fun when the knob has a lead weight to keep momentum). Even so, this thing divided the SW band into at least three segments. I seem to remember that LW used to contain not a lot more than machine noise and ship morse, but short wave was always a gem with radio stations from all over the place fading in and out. Anyway, enough of my reminiscing (and regretting I hadn't begged my grandparents to hang on to that radio!) to my question. In this day and age of radio-via-internet, streaming audio servers, satellite comms etc. does short wave radio get broadcast anywhere as much as it used to? The reason I ask is that I still remember what a buzz it was to hear radio stations from an entirely different continent and wouldn't mind revisiting that sensation. I realise that it'd be much more efficient just to hook up to the nearest real audio server and use a station list, but doing it over airwaves and depending on nothing but the stratosphere is really appealing! Not to mention quite Dolbyesque. :-) Another question, do any of you dig out SW radios now and then to have a listen? Paul. [who's tossing up whether to start combing junk/antique stores for Grundigs in the hope of hearing Radio Moscow again - or is my memory confusing romanticism with reality...] This message powered by "Hotel California (unplugged)" off Hell Freezes Over/Eagles. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 15:26:23 +0100 From: lulfstedt@amadeus.net Subject: Re: Alloy: [OT] Not quite Radio Caroline Hi Paul! Don't worry,...I love OT as well as DRC (Dolby-related content) - don't get me started :-) >Anyway, enough of my reminiscing (and regretting I hadn't begged my >grandparents to hang on to that radio!) to my question. In this day and age >of radio-via-internet, streaming audio servers, satellite comms etc. does >short wave radio get broadcast anywhere as much as it used to? Hmm,...no expert here, but I think there's still a real lot on SW,...I can't tell the difference, but there sure is a hell of a lot of stations still broadcasting on SW, including my old faves. I'd say first and foremost medium wave is the band that has suffered the most, here in Europe at least,...Most goverment stations still do SW broadcasts. >The reason I ask is that I still remember what a buzz it was to hear radio >stations from an entirely different continent and wouldn't mind revisiting >that sensation. I know that feeling :-) Many of my nights from age 11-16 were spent seeing "what I could get". Every Tuesday night, I'd listen to the DXers program on Radio Sweden, and at age 12, I was proudly prancing around in a Radio Sweden International T-Shirt. Boy, was I a geek kid! I got a real buzz when I managed to get Radio Australia International from Finland on my first visit at 16. I also remember getting really p@@@ed off when I'd find an exciting foreign language broadcasts, only to find it was the British world service stomping all over the airwaves,... (there's a parody in there somewhere --- "Through the airwaves, only bloody Beeb, the airwaves, all I can receive, the airwaves,..hmmmmmm,....) >I realise that it'd be much more efficient just to hook up to the nearest real audio server and use a station list, >but doing it over airwaves and depending on nothing but the stratosphere is really appealing! There are still an awful lot of stations out there that you can't get on anything but SW, especially broadcasts from places like South America etc. Anyway, nothing beats that crackly magic, straight from the studio, not via half a dozen internet gateways :-) Mind you, internet radio is fun too,...I used to listen at work to a radio station close to where a friend lives in Port Moresby in Papua New Guinea, and another in Montreal until I came here where we are all sans-soundcard (sniff!) >Not to mention quite Dolbyesque. :-) Guess what attracted me to TGAOW in the first place ;-) >Another question, do any of you dig out SW radios now and then to have a listen? Yep! And I miss my big valve-driven one, which is still waiting for me to pick it up in Finland,...(sigh!) >[who's tossing up whether to start combing junk/antique stores for Grundigs >in the hope of hearing Radio Moscow again - or is my memory confusing >romanticism with reality...] Nah,...get combing,...go for it,..it's fun! And if you're lucky, you'll find one with a cool magic eye on the front! (remember those?) If you need any help replacing dials etc. lemme know :-) Now you know why I have such a daft e-mail address anyway (radiogirl) Okay,....I digress,.....back to reality :-) Lissu - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Currently powered by the Riven soundtrack - (yeah, I know,.. geeky,....) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 10:37:20 -0400 From: "Melissa R. Jordan" Subject: Re: Alloy: [OT] Not quite Radio Caroline Paul Baily wrote: > Another question, do any of you dig out SW radios now and then to have a > listen? Paul, one of my dear friends can't go to sleep at night unless he's got the BBC World Service tuned in on his shortwave! I have a little Grundig SW I bought at Radio Shack that always travels with me. When I'm here in DC, it's on my nightstand, and, on clear nights here at home, I love listening to the Russian stations. I also listen to the news in German and catch Middle Eastern broadcasts for the fab snippets of music. I bought my first shortwave when I lived in London - it was a cheesy '80's cherry-colored boombox with a radio, and I listened to all sorts of funky stuff late at night. > Paul. > [who's tossing up whether to start combing junk/antique stores for Grundigs > in the hope of hearing Radio Moscow again - or is my memory confusing > romanticism with reality...] There's always the Radio Shack route, Paul - although it does lack the charm of buying a vintage radio. :-) I still love hearing the Moscow chimes playing "Podmoskoviye Vechera" on Radio Moscow - I find it very soothing. Cheers, Melissa - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist/Rubber Maven, Compass Rose Studios (http://crstudios.com) Chief Navigator, Compass Rose Consulting (http://askcrc.com) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 13:51:00 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Dear Robin ... (AKA Calendar Project Prize Giveaway) In a message dated 5/29/00 3:02:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DAbbitt32@aol.com writes: :: I guess what I'm trying to say, Robin, is that, well, there are always alternatives. Maybe bodily organs are too personal to be handing out just because we've got some creative types on the list? Hey, what about giving away your car? Do you have two cars? Because that would be even better. Remember, Robin, I'm trying to look out for you. Your ever grateful friend and faithful Alloy member, -Dabbitt :: LOL!! My dears... I truly do thank you for being so sweet. I hadn't realized I was presenting you with a moral dilemma of quite this magnitude. I will acquiesce to your kind insistence & not offer my Camera Club record after all. I don't like pulling it back out after having offered it, but I do respect & understand your feelings on this. From here on in, you're all personally invited over to my house to look at it any time you like! I still want there to be prizes, but I promise no more personal ones like the Camera Club LP, or my internal organs (even ones I have duplicates of). I'll get to work on it & see what else I can come up with... Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 16:03:47 -0400 From: Jon Subject: Re: Alloy: Dear Robin ... (AKA Calendar Project Prize Giveaway) RThurF@aol.com wrote: > I still want there to be prizes, but I promise no more personal ones like the > Camera Club LP, or my internal organs (even ones I have duplicates of). I'll > get to work on it & see what else I can come up with... > > Robin T Or maybe you can use the "prestige" method of reward, Robin. Put the winner's submission on the cover of the calendar. Or create a winner's page to kick off the calendar....with a little "Winner Dolby Calnedar 2000, 1st Prize" at the bottom. Pats on the back always work for me : ) Of course, I would settle for a cassette dub of the song Wreck of the Fairchild. But then again I didn't win yet, so I will shut up now. >>jon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 15:26:55 -0600 From: Dennis S Alexander Subject: Alloy: Peter Maxell Charles wrote, >At least 3 times during the evening you will feel like Peter Murphy in the Maxell audiotape ad....your hair blowing back, the force plastering you to your seat. That's Peter Murphy?! Years ago (make that decades ago), when my father owned the Riverton (Wyoming) Home Entertainment Center, he had several copies of that poster plastered around the store. I used to study it wondering exactly how they created the image. ...And now I find out it was Peter Murphy in the chair? That's so cool! ___________ JAMac (Dennis S. Alexander) www.dennisa.com - Nutrition/Income Opportunities "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams" - Eleanor Roosevelt ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 16:12:52 -0600 From: Dennis S Alexander Subject: Re: Alloy: OT: Job searching... yet again. CJMark wrote, >At least it's good to hear you're on the search.. that's the first step. >Break a leg! Doing the job search is not an option for me. Unfortunately, I have these bills haunting me, and, they're quite large, and I'm working on getting married (and paying for all those related things), and trying to buy a house for my lovely fiancee and I. I have to look... that or go to jail for not filing bancruptcy. PS: Teresa, you are amazingly understanding! I love you! Lissu wrote, >Sound like you should be interviewing your potential employers, and not the other way around, Y'know, I've been trying to do that for the last few jobs? This last one, a contract placement company called and said they had a client I might want to work for. Neither the contract company nor their client interviewed me at all! They handed me a contract and said "You'll make x dollars doing a lot of stuff for a brand-new startup. For the first three days, I sat in a room with the other two new contractors shooting the breeze! It was the most I've ever made anywhere, by far, but right from the beginning, it was odd! I did talk to my supervisor when we were in California. I told her exactly what I was expecting and she was more than satisfied and told me not to worry... of course, she was drunk. >....don't forget that they're crying out for people with your background down here in France, should the fancy take you! Sounds good, but, my situation doesn't really allow for me to leave the Denver area right now. > Put yourself first, Dennis, You're number one, not the company you work for! Well, I'm still trying to figure out what that means, because, If I go in there with the attitude "I just want a job." They're not going to look at me. I feel I'm missing something here. I've never been a work-a-holic; when it's 5:00, I'm out the door, unless there's an emergency to be finished up. I've also never been a brown-noser; I do my work and I do it very well. So what am I missing here? Dabbitt wrote, > Follow these instructions as closely as possible: > > 1. Go to Blockbuster > 2. Rent "Office Space" > 3. Go home > 4. Watch "Office Space" > 5. Take what you've learned from "Office Space" and apply liberally to your daily grind. I love that movie. Teresa and I quote it all the time to each other. I forget the name of it, but there was that report that he was to file everyday... Teresa files a report by the same name! Of course, she works for WorldComm (formerly known as MCI/WorldComm). The only problem with that movie is, if you do those things, you will get fired! That's what I'm trying to avoid here! And as far as the EQ stuff goes, I bought that book, as well as the first book before the "Working with..." one. I read the first one but never got to the second one. Maybe I should pull them out. I also know that when I come home every night, and Teresa is there, she'll be able to tell me what stupid things I did that day and what I should try to resolve them. I know I keep saying this, but this woman is so great for me and she wonders what I see in her! And Robin, I've been wanting to go to Europe. I think it would be a blast! But, I can't consider it, for now. Ideally, I'd love to head for Ireland! I never knew I was even Irish in the slightest until recent hints and facts brought the truth to the fore. It'd be fun to see just where my ancestors came from. ___________ JAMac (Dennis S. Alexander) www.dennisa.com - Nutrition/Income Opportunities "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams" - Eleanor Roosevelt ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 22:43:44 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: OT: Job searching... yet again. In a message dated 5/29/00 6:29:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dalexander@juno.com writes: :: Ideally, I'd love to head for Ireland! I never knew I was even Irish in the slightest until recent hints and facts brought the truth to the fore. It'd be fun to see just where my ancestors came from. :: Our plane crash landed there & the people were very good to us! Do you know what region your family comes from? Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 22:51:51 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Dear Robin ... (AKA Calendar Project Prize Giveaway) In a message dated 5/29/00 4:12:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, otterpunk@freewwweb.com writes: :: Put the winner's submission on the cover of the calendar. Or create a winner's page to kick off the calendar....with a little "Winner Dolby Calnedar 2000, 1st Prize" at the bottom. Pats on the back always work for me :) Of course, I would settle for a cassette dub of the song Wreck of the Fairchild. But then again I didn't win yet, so I will shut up now. >>jon :: Thanks for your suggestions Jon!! We won't know the winner until after the calendars have been published, though, and everyone's voted... I *do* plan to devote some webspace to the calendar entries & I'll certainly give the winner loads of praise there. Not sure what I'm going to do about the cover art. Maybe a nice portrait of Thomas that carries the 'costume' theme if I can find one. Thanks for your prize idea too - I'll see what I can do ;) Robin T ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V5 #134 ***************************