From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V5 #124 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Saturday, May 20 2000 Volume 05 : Number 124 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Reamed by the corpse of Sonny Bono. [Chris Cracknell ] Alloy: Fwd: dolby sheet music? [andyjmail@cheerful.com] Alloy: Fwd: dolby sheet music? ["Krzysko, William" ] Alloy: Intro [stevewho@pacbell.net] Alloy: dolby sheet music? Yes, of course! [Keith Dawe Subject: Alloy: Reamed by the corpse of Sonny Bono. Well as many of our american musicians no doubt know there were some recent changes to the US Copyright Law forced through legislation for the most part by the Disney Corporation fearful because the copyright on Mickey Mouse was about to expire. These changes have extended the duration of copyright for another 20 years (and what do you want to bet that in another 20 years Disney will try to extend it even more). So now a work is "protected" for the life of it's creator plus 70 years, or in the case of corporate owned "works-for-hire", 95 years. But in Canada, copyright duration is still life plus 50. This means over the next 20 years the number of works falling into the public domain will stagnate in the United States but new works will continue to become available to the public in Canada. Just to let our american friends know what they're missing... this year the works of Kurt Weill become public domain in Canada. Woohoo! Of course the thing is, for the most part Kurt Weill just wrote the music somebody else (eg. Bertol Brecht) wrote the lyrics. But on Dec. 31st 2003 the works of Bertol Brecht will also fall into the public domain. Double Woohoo! Of course this doesn't mean I can start recording works from the Threepenny Opera (my favorite Brecht/Weill collaboration) because translations can be copyrighted. But what this will mean is that I will be free to create new translations of Threepenny from the original german version. Triple Woohoo! Why a triple woohoo? Because quite frankly the Blitzstein translation of The Threepenny Opera sucks. It was translated for a middleclass american audience of the 50s and much of the bite and venom of the original is watered down to make it less offensive to the middleclass american pallet of that era. So in a very short while I'll be able to publish an adaptation I feel to be closer to the original in spirit. Of course in the meanwhile I'll be busy creating that new translation for publication. I'm also considering setting up an online Kurt Weill midi file database but here's where the corpse of Sonny Bono (who championed the US Legislation's current rape of the public's right to access works) rears it's ugly head. Kurt Weill's music is now public domain in Canada. But it's still copyrighted in the United States. I can record instrumental adaptations of Kurt's original works and distribute them here in Canada but I can't distribute them to the US. So what does that mean if I put these works, as a Canadian Citizen on a Canadian webpage where anyone, anywhere in the world can access them? If americans access the works who is liable for copyright violation under US law? Me? The american downloader? Both? Of course I can't face any penalty in Canada because Canadian copyright law only grants foreign copyrights the same duration of protection that they do Canadian copyrights, life+50. Of course the other problem is, as it has done too often in the past will Canadian Copyright law be amended to mimic American Copyright law? I'll have to just keep my fingers crossed that if it does it won't be until after Bertol Brecht's works become public domain so I can finally produce a decent version of Threepenny without having to deal with the beaurocracy of Rodgers and Hammerstein (who own the rights to the Blitzstein tranlsation which as near as I can tell is the only translation authorized in the US). On an interesting note, I've discovered the webpage of the Kurt Weill Foundation and have been seeking some assistance from them. I've also been doing some research on different translations of Threepenny. CRACKERS (Glad to be Canadian from hell!!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.netway.com/~hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 02:56:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Alloy: [OT] Mack The Knife I've started with the song "The Ballad Of Mack The Knife" which got raped the most of all the songs (followed closely by Peachum's Morning Hymm and The Heavy Cannon Song) in the Blitzstein translation (and I won't even go into the horrible arrangement the music for that song received in the R&H production). There are actually quite a few translations out there. I think I've been able to build a decent translation of Mack the Knife the reflects the darkness of the original german version. At least better than the Blitzstein version. The Ballad Of Mack The Knife (Crackers) See the shark's teeth gleam like razors Ever ready to attack. But you won't see Mackie's jackknife till he slides it in your back. See the red blood stain the water See the shark slash at his prey. But Macheath he wears white kid gloves Which give the minimum away On a cheerful, sunday morning lies a dead man in the park. While Macheath he turns the corner Has our boy done something dark? Another rich man has just vanished Moishe Goldstein is missing now. Mack the Knife spends Moishe's money How'd he get it? Who knows how? See the smoke rise over Soho Seven kids died in the flame. Mack stands laughing in the crowd but No one dares to lay the blame. By the river's murky waters See the dead men tumble down. Is it plague or is it cholera? Or is Macheath back in town? The police found Jenny Taylor A knife buried in her gut And Macheath strolls by the river Says he's never met the slut. And the child in her nightgown Whose name the papers can't reveal. Violated as she slumbered Mackie how'd that make you feel? Violated as she slumbered Mackie how'd that make you feel? Compaired to the Blitzen version. Mack the Knife (M. Blitzstein) Oh the shark has pretty teeth dear And he keeps them pearly white. Just a jackknife has Macheath dear and he keeps it out of sight. When the shark bites with it's teeth dear scarlet billows start to spread Fancy gloves though wears Macheath dear So there's not a trace of red On the sidewalk Sunday morning Lies a body Oozing life Someone's sneeking Around the cornor Is that someone Mack the knife? There's a tugboat By the river Cement bags drooping down The cement is just for the weight dear Now that Mackie's Back in town Louie Miller dissappeared dear After drawing out his cash And Macheath spends like a sailor Has our boy done something rash? Suky Taudry, Jenny Diver, Lotty Lenya, and Lucy Brown The line forms on the right dear Now that Mackie's back in town Here's the best translation I've been able to find so far. But I find it scans very awkwardly in places. Ballad of Mack the Knife (J. Willett) See the shark has teeth like razors All can read his open face. And Macheath has got a knife, but Not in such an obvious place. See the shark, How red his fins are As he slashes at his prey. Mack the Knife wears white kid gloves which Give the minimum away. By the Thames turbid waters, Men abruptly tumble down. Is it plague, or is it cholera? Or a sign Macheath's in town? On a beautyful blue Sunday, See a corpse stretched on the Strand. See a man dodge around the corner Mackie's friend's will understand. And Schul Meier who is missing Like so many wealthy men: Mack the knife aquired his cashbox God alone knows how or when. Jenny Towler turned up lately With a knife stuck in her breast While Macheath walked the embankment, Nonchalantly unimpressed. Where is Alfred Gleet the cabman? Who can get that story clear? All the world may know the answer, but Macheath has no idea. And the ghastly fire in Soho, Seven children at a go In the crowd stands Mack the knife, but He's not asked and doesn't know. And the child bride in her nightie, Whose assailant's still at large Violated in her slumbers Mackie how much did you charge? Violated in her slumbers Mackie how much did you charge? - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.netway.com/~hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 04:44:36 -0400 (EDT) From: andyjmail@cheerful.com Subject: Alloy: Fwd: dolby sheet music? Hi all, a quickie question from one of my "audience" ... stevewho@pacbell.net wrote: > Howdy Andy > > Any ideal where I could find sheet music to "Golden Age of > Wireless?" > Any ideas? Ta, +AndyJ+ - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 08:24:47 -0500 From: "Krzysko, William" Subject: Alloy: Fwd: dolby sheet music? A book containing the sheet music was published, I bought one on Ebay. I assume it is out of print now. - -----Original Message----- From: andyjmail@cheerful.com [mailto:andyjmail@cheerful.com] Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 3:45 AM To: alloy@smoe.org Subject: Alloy: Fwd: dolby sheet music? Hi all, a quickie question from one of my "audience" ... stevewho@pacbell.net wrote: > Howdy Andy > > Any ideal where I could find sheet music to "Golden Age of > Wireless?" > Any ideas? Ta, +AndyJ+ - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 12:07:19 -0400 From: Robin Thurlow Subject: Re: Alloy: Fwd: dolby sheet music? Hey Andy, I got a book of sheet music from eBay too... however there are only four songs printed out: Airwaves, One of our Submarines, She Blinded Me w/Science, and... uh... I can't remember the fourth right now (I'm at work & I can't look it up, help!) Robin T brains turned to jelly andyjmail@cheerful.com wrote: > Hi all, > a quickie question from one of my "audience" ... > > stevewho@pacbell.net wrote: > > > Howdy Andy > > > > Any ideal where I could find sheet music to "Golden Age of > > Wireless?" > > > > Any ideas? > Ta, > +AndyJ+ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 12:07:39 -0700 From: stevewho@pacbell.net Subject: Alloy: Intro Howdy! I have always enjoyed Mr. Dolby's first album, "Golden Age of Wireless". The album is a delight from beginning to end. I also like the EP remixed version of "Flying North", with all the terrific percussion. I think "Wireless" is one of the most near-perfect pop records I've ever heard. Mr. Dolby's attention to detail is acute. It seems that every second of every song has some sort of surprise or textural change before the listener has a chance to get bored. The record never gets dull or repititious; it sustains the listener's interest from beginning to end. I also appreciate the artist's mastery of electronic keyboard technology. Few people have used synths as cannily as Mr. Dolby did on this record. The sounds sparkle and pop. And he really uses of some interesting chords and changes. I remember reading an interview in which Mr. Dolby recalled slowing down T. Monk recordings so that he could learn every note of that great pianist's solos. The exercises paid off, as can be seen by Mr. Dolby's jazz- influenced pop style (especially obvious on songs such as "Weightless"). I am an amateur pianist and have tried to learn some of the songs from "Wireless", but my ear can't quite catch some of the more unusual chord changes. I have had particular trouble with the chords on "Cloudburst", for example. I'm not even sure how he voices the chords on "Blinded Me with Science". I would love to find the sheet music for all the songs on "Wireless", but the book is apparently out of print and rather difficult to find. Does anybody know a good sheet music source that might have a copy of this book for sale? If not, I would even accept a Xerox copy of the piano notation, assuming that someone in the group has a copy of the published sheet music. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 17:48:15 EDT From: DAbbitt32@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Intro In a message dated 5/19/00 12:15:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, stevewho@pacbell.net writes: << I am an amateur pianist and have tried to learn some of the songs from "Wireless", but my ear can't quite catch some of the more unusual chord changes. I have had particular trouble with the chords on "Cloudburst", for example. I'm not even sure how he voices the chords on "Blinded Me with Science". >> And as a noted scientist I was a bit surprised the girl blinded me with science. - -Dabbitt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 17:46:20 -0400 From: Russell Milliner Subject: Re: Alloy: Fwd: dolby sheet music? Europa - -Russ Robin Thurlow wrote: > > Hey Andy, > > I got a book of sheet music from eBay too... however there are only four > songs printed out: Airwaves, One of our Submarines, She Blinded Me > w/Science, and... uh... I can't remember the fourth right now (I'm at > work & I can't look it up, help!) > > Robin T > brains turned to jelly > > andyjmail@cheerful.com wrote: > > > Hi all, > > a quickie question from one of my "audience" ... > > > > stevewho@pacbell.net wrote: > > > > > Howdy Andy > > > > > > Any ideal where I could find sheet music to "Golden Age of > > > Wireless?" > > > > > > > Any ideas? > > Ta, > > +AndyJ+ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Get your free email from AltaVista at http://altavista.iname.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 12:07:39 -0700 From: stevewho@pacbell.net Subject: Alloy: Intro Howdy! I have always enjoyed Mr. Dolby's first album, "Golden Age of Wireless". The album is a delight from beginning to end. I also like the EP remixed version of "Flying North", with all the terrific percussion. I think "Wireless" is one of the most near-perfect pop records I've ever heard. Mr. Dolby's attention to detail is acute. It seems that every second of every song has some sort of surprise or textural change before the listener has a chance to get bored. The record never gets dull or repititious; it sustains the listener's interest from beginning to end. I also appreciate the artist's mastery of electronic keyboard technology. Few people have used synths as cannily as Mr. Dolby did on this record. The sounds sparkle and pop. And he really uses of some interesting chords and changes. I remember reading an interview in which Mr. Dolby recalled slowing down T. Monk recordings so that he could learn every note of that great pianist's solos. The exercises paid off, as can be seen by Mr. Dolby's jazz- influenced pop style (especially obvious on songs such as "Weightless"). I am an amateur pianist and have tried to learn some of the songs from "Wireless", but my ear can't quite catch some of the more unusual chord changes. I have had particular trouble with the chords on "Cloudburst", for example. I'm not even sure how he voices the chords on "Blinded Me with Science". I would love to find the sheet music for all the songs on "Wireless", but the book is apparently out of print and rather difficult to find. Does anybody know a good sheet music source that might have a copy of this book for sale? If not, I would even accept a Xerox copy of the piano notation, assuming that someone in the group has a copy of the published sheet music. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 19:08:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Keith Dawe Subject: Alloy: dolby sheet music? Yes, of course! On Fri, 19 May 2000 andyjmail@cheerful.com wrote: > > Any ideal where I could find sheet music to "Golden Age of > > Wireless?" I don't know if you can still find any but I have a little songbook which contains 4 songs (Science, Europa, Submarines, Airwaves) - --omega ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 20:50:41 -0700 From: "electrix" Subject: Alloy: South California Contingency!!!! Urgent! Hiya... Jez want to let you guys from the Southern LA basin that Stephen and Mary are due in LA on Sunday 21st at about 2:00PM. So, CJ, DAbbitt, Kathleen... if you want to get together give me a buzz at 818-734-9515 and leave your phone on my voice mail. Tomorrow (Saturday) I will be at work from 9 to 5 at 818-501-1614... you can give me a buzz there also if you wish to welcome the couple to LA. No plans has been made to where and when as yet, but it is bound to be a FUN day... Please pass the word around....I'll try to seek some of your phone if I am able to locate it in my database... it has been a long time. - -- electrix Electric/Midi/Synth Guitarist, Composer http://electricson.iuma.com "Inamorata, your music are tomorrows unknown known life. I love tomorrow." --- Conrad Roberts, Poet (from Miles Davis Live/Evil CD) - -- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 00:45:23 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: dolby sheet music? Yes, of course! In a message dated 5/19/00 7:10:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, omega@freenet.toronto.on.ca writes: :: I don't know if you can still find any but I have a little songbook which contains 4 songs (Science, Europa, Submarines, Airwaves) :: Europa!! that's the fourth song!! Robin T brains melting... ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V5 #124 ***************************