From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V5 #77 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Thursday, March 30 2000 Volume 05 : Number 077 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: Wireless Release Sequence [Brian Clayton ] Alloy: Gothic Alert [Robyn Moore ] Re: Alloy: Can't sleep? Here's a cure. [Paul Baily ] Re: Alloy: jeopardy [DAbbitt32@aol.com] Re: Alloy: more medicine ["Kathleen T. Presser" ] Re: Alloy: jeopardy [Robin Thurlow ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 00:57:31 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) From: Brian Clayton Subject: Re: Alloy: Wireless Release Sequence On Tue, 28 Mar 2000 Spencer2424@aol.com wrote: > Excellent quesiton! After many years of collecting Dolby vinyl, I > have come to believe that the Wireless album was released in the > US a total of 4 times, in various incarnations. Ah, the "Wireless discussion." :) A fine effort, Craig, as far as US releases are concerned. For the full (??) story, please consult Lazlo's discography at: http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?dolby for his handy TGAoW comparison chart! The Golden Age Of Wireless - album notes +--------------- Original UK LP/CS. On Venice In Peril. | +------------ First US/CN LP/CS; on Harvest. Unique "stage" sleeve art. | | +--------- Revised UK LP/CS, also on CD in UK and US. | | | +------ Revised US/CN LP/CS; no CD version | | | | +--- Third US LP; US/Japan only CD. | | | | | | * - * - - | Airwaves (5:15 album version) | - * - * * | Airwaves (3:35 7" version) | * * * * * | Cloudburst At Shingle Street (5:45) | * * * * * | Commercial Breakup (4:15) | * * * * * | Europa and the Pirate Twins (3:18) | * * * * * | Flying North (3:50) | - * - - - | Leipzig (3:52) | - - * * * | One Of Our Submarines (5:15) | * - * - * | Radio Silence (3:47) | - * - * - | Radio Silence (4:32 version) | - - * - - | She Blinded Me With Science (3:42 album version) | - - - * * | She Blinded Me With Science (5:09 extended version) | - * - - - | Urges (3:42) | * * * * * | Weightless (3:45) | * * * - - | Windpower (4:20) | - - - * * | Windpower (3:58 7" version) | * - - - - | The Wreck of the Fairchild (3:30) I have four out five, but I'm trying to do better. Honest. BC - --- Brian Clayton "I hope I can continue to confuse and exasperate stemish@lns.com you for a couple more decades." -- TMDR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 02:43:39 -0800 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Alloy: Gothic Alert Here's a heads-up for the frugal amongst us - Buy.com has the new DVD print of Gothic for $14.99. They're also having a Free Shipping Day today (Wed, Mar 29). And for those who're uneasy giving out your credit card number online, they do have an 800-number for voice ordering. I do business with them fairly often, and find them to be a decent, reliable company. As a matter of fact, just the other week I bought the soundtrack to The Wicker Man from them. Robyn M @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.alveus.com/kbrm/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:55:59 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Re: Alloy: Can't sleep? Here's a cure. And on the day of 28/3/2000 9:54 pm, lulfstedt@amadeus.net thus did spake... > Just mosied (sp. ?) over to the page and read the bits I hadn't read > before,...Paul,...get writing that book, my sweet. It's a must! > (P.S. Will you still hang out with us here when you're rich & famous?) Aw shucks, thankya! I agree with Crackers though, the question is infinitely more likely to apply to your good self! P. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:55:59 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Re: Alloy: Can't sleep? Here's a cure. And on the day of 29/3/2000 3:17 am, Robin Thurlow thus did spake... > I've just gone to your page on my lunck break (fearing the ever present Wrath > of Frank, I can't stay on long enough to read any of your wonderful stories > though I plan to do so the moment I get home tonight) I'm blushing > completely.. I think it's the first time I've ever been mentioned on anyone > else's page!! (except maybe that body painting one...LOL) Thank you for being > so sweet :) Most welcome sweet one, just telling it like it is. To this day I don't quite know why you put up with my incessant whingeing, but I'm eternally grateful nonetheless! > As you know it has always been my very great pleasure to read > your work & talk with you about stories and writing. My deepest thanks go > straight back to you, Paul, for continuing to write & develop your story > ideas. May you always keep working & continue to be inspired! Do you mind if > I send your page link out to my friend who's a writer in LA? He is totally > into SciFi & I know he'd love your work! Gosh! I'm very flattered that you asked! Um well on the condition that he doesn't laugh too hard at my amoebic hen scratchings then why not. :-) Still working on those other snippets I told you about a wee while back, will send them soon. P. [who just this week got to listen to Delirium. Very eloquent sound: think Enigma, Deep Forest, Tori Amos, and an Erotica-esque Madonna combined with maybe a dash of early Talking Heads.] This message powered by Enchanted off Karma/Delirium. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:55:59 +1000 From: Paul Baily Subject: Re: Alloy: Can't sleep? Here's a cure. And on the day of 29/3/2000 6:21 am, Stephen M. Tilson thus did spake... >> Can't sleep? Here's a cure. >> http://www.ozemail.com.au/~justsomeguy/preview > > Hardly. I've moseyed over there myself recently and have > been both entertained and pleasantly surprised. You've got some good > starts here. Maybe it's time to take them out of the nursery and out > into full sun. From the acorn doth the mighty oak grow. > > The story that begins with a frantic radio message followed by a > distant bloom of light... That is a particularly vivid passage. Thankyasir! Leave is probably the snippet that I'm least embarrassed about and it was written in a way from personal experience. Before I leave that sentence hanging in the air and make myself sound totally deranged (as opposed to only partially ;-) I mean that the evening in which I wrote cut one of it (it's been through six or seven revs) was following a time where I was to meet a few friends at said bar but I was running late. A couple of hours late as it turned out. Everyone else had headed off to a different bar by the time I'd gotten there (story of my life.) Anyway, though I'm /never/ comfortable going to a bar by myself, for some reason I decided to have a drink anyway and just watch the crowd. The storyline was pretty fresh in my mind and I was feeling pretty low for reasons I won't go into here. Possibly because of these two factors, I did an exercise where I imagined how the character would be in that setting. I'm probably not explaining it very well, but it was quite amazing to see such a 'normal' scene through the eyes of someone who had seen the things I (he) had seen and under the burden of something more substantial. Maybe it was too much escapism but I actually ended up feeling pretty sad (as the character). I took a taxi home, sat down in front of the Mac, and let my fingers do the talking. Hopefully it came out okay. > Paul, I suggest you take one of these saplings and nurture it to > maturity! Thanks again good sir. Maybe one of these days I'll join some of the brushstrokes. > Anyone notice the HTML page title? I will. Ta! Now, anyone notice the title of the main page? :-) P. This message powered by Silence off Karma/Delirium. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:53:30 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Can't sleep? Here's a cure. In a message dated 3/29/00 8:01:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, justsomeguy@ozemail.com.au writes: :: who just this week got to listen to Delirium :: Delirium, yay!!! Robin T who *loves* Delirium ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 10:32:04 -0600 From: "Julie Sweeney" Subject: Alloy: more medicine Hear, hear, Lissu... your take on Western vs. alternative medicine was extremely well said. You go, girl!! By nature I am extremely wary of any type of extreme, black & white view of any subject. I agree that holistic medicine can be a good complement to traditional medicine. Some of the herbal stuff is quite intriguing, but.... I'll tell you what. I was extremely grateful for modern medicine when I was pregnant and having my kids. I'm extremely grateful for it when it comes time to investigate Damien's ulcer, and keep it at bay (no, it's not bacterial). I would never have dreamed of not immunizing my kids, and while I feed us all healthy food, give multivitamins and try to get us enough sleep and exercise to bolster our immunity, there is no substitute for our WONDERFUL family practitioner, who cares for all five of us and is simply THE BEST. He delivered our third child and was many times better and more caring than the OB/GYN who delivered the first two. On an interesting note about herbal therapies, I recently heard that a bit of caution is in order with them... something about their production and manufacture not being regulated, and so one can't be sure exactly what's in them besides herbs. Anyway, I like to be careful of wholesale denunciation and demonization of anything, and especially when the group in question has obviously helped hordes of people. And one more thing, while we're on the subject... as far as the interplay of traditional/holistic medicines goes, let us not forget the power of the mind, and of belief systems. I think we are complex beasts, each one of us different than the next, and the effective treatment of our physical selves depends largely on the individual. Okay, so this was supposed to be short. Julie Sweeney jsweeney@netpros-inc.net > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:05:02 -0500 > From: Robin Thurlow > Subject: Re: Alloy: Catching your death of cold (OT) > > Lissu, I completely agree. I would literally not be here today if it weren't for > modern therapies for asthma (having almost died of combined massive > asthma/bronchitis/pneumonia at 19, as a result of a lung infection) and modern > inhaled treatments for asthma keep me healthy & breathing to this day. > > I believe maintaining ones strength and health through exercise & good nutrition, > and trying to have peace of mind and a good balance in life, is important to attempt > to 'tweak the odds' as you say :) ... but since I've known so many people who've > gone on and on in spite of completely trashing their bodies, and just as many who > have fallen seriously ill in spite of careful attention to exercise and nutrition, i > really couldn't possibly agree more. > > my 2 cents! :) > Robin T > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 11:57:42 EST From: DAbbitt32@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: jeopardy Look what I found! "In 1892, Thadeus T. Jeffreys of Montgomery, Alabama stuck a tube up his nose while attaching the loose end to the squeeze box of an accordion. The resulting combination of man and musical machine actually constitutes the invention of the synthesizer. Thadeus, an eccentric and genius by most accounts, whose accomplishments are relatively little known due to his rather short lifespan, is also considered the inventor of "performance art". In 1893, he tried upscaling his previous experiment by attaching a modified steam engine, fitted with a small keyboard, to another bodily orifice. The result was his untimely demise." Source: Routers - -Dabbitt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:11:56 -0800 From: "Kathleen T. Presser" Subject: Re: Alloy: more medicine Well said Julie!! Julie Sweeney wrote: > Hear, hear, Lissu... your take on Western vs. alternative medicine was > extremely well said. You go, girl!! > > By nature I am extremely wary of any type of extreme, black & white view of > any subject. I agree that holistic medicine can be a good complement to > traditional medicine. Some of the herbal stuff is quite intriguing, but.... > I'll tell you what. I was extremely grateful for modern medicine when I was > pregnant and having my kids. I'm extremely grateful for it when it comes > time to investigate Damien's ulcer, and keep it at bay (no, it's not > bacterial). I would never have dreamed of not immunizing my kids, and while > I feed us all healthy food, give multivitamins and try to get us enough > sleep and exercise to bolster our immunity, there is no substitute for our > WONDERFUL family practitioner, who cares for all five of us and is simply > THE BEST. He delivered our third child and was many times better and more > caring than the OB/GYN who delivered the first two. > > On an interesting note about herbal therapies, I recently heard that a bit > of caution is in order with them... something about their production and > manufacture not being regulated, and so one can't be sure exactly what's in > them besides herbs. > > Anyway, I like to be careful of wholesale denunciation and demonization of > anything, and especially when the group in question has obviously helped > hordes of people. > > And one more thing, while we're on the subject... as far as the interplay of > traditional/holistic medicines goes, let us not forget the power of the > mind, and of belief systems. I think we are complex beasts, each one of us > different than the next, and the effective treatment of our physical selves > depends largely on the individual. > > Okay, so this was supposed to be short. > > Julie Sweeney > jsweeney@netpros-inc.net > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 09:05:02 -0500 > > From: Robin Thurlow > > Subject: Re: Alloy: Catching your death of cold (OT) > > > > Lissu, I completely agree. I would literally not be here today if it > weren't for > > modern therapies for asthma (having almost died of combined massive > > asthma/bronchitis/pneumonia at 19, as a result of a lung infection) and > modern > > inhaled treatments for asthma keep me healthy & breathing to this day. > > > > I believe maintaining ones strength and health through exercise & good > nutrition, > > and trying to have peace of mind and a good balance in life, is important > to attempt > > to 'tweak the odds' as you say :) ... but since I've known so many people > who've > > gone on and on in spite of completely trashing their bodies, and just as > many who > > have fallen seriously ill in spite of careful attention to exercise and > nutrition, i > > really couldn't possibly agree more. > > > > my 2 cents! :) > > Robin T > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:15:09 -0800 From: "Kathleen T. Presser" Subject: Re: Alloy: jeopardy Gee, maybe I oughta put a tube up my nose with the other end to my accordion to make a home made synth.LOL You never know, it could happen.... Kate the kurst;-) DAbbitt32@aol.com wrote: > Look what I found! > > "In 1892, Thadeus T. Jeffreys of Montgomery, Alabama stuck a tube up his nose > while attaching the loose end to the squeeze box of an accordion. The > resulting combination of man and musical machine actually constitutes the > invention of the synthesizer. > > Thadeus, an eccentric and genius by most accounts, whose accomplishments are > relatively little known due to his rather short lifespan, is also considered > the inventor of "performance art". > > In 1893, he tried upscaling his previous experiment by attaching a modified > steam engine, fitted with a small keyboard, to another bodily orifice. The > result was his untimely demise." > > Source: Routers > > -Dabbitt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 13:50:27 -0500 From: Robin Thurlow Subject: Re: Alloy: jeopardy Dabbitt - no way. This one HAS to be printed out for my scrapbook. Thanks for the research!! Thadeus T. Jeffreys is my new hero. Robin T DAbbitt32@aol.com wrote: > Look what I found! > > "In 1892, Thadeus T. Jeffreys of Montgomery, Alabama stuck a tube up his nose > while attaching the loose end to the squeeze box of an accordion. The > resulting combination of man and musical machine actually constitutes the > invention of the synthesizer. > > Thadeus, an eccentric and genius by most accounts, whose accomplishments are > relatively little known due to his rather short lifespan, is also considered > the inventor of "performance art". > > In 1893, he tried upscaling his previous experiment by attaching a modified > steam engine, fitted with a small keyboard, to another bodily orifice. The > result was his untimely demise." > > Source: Routers > > -Dabbitt ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V5 #77 **************************