From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V5 #11 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Wednesday, January 19 2000 Volume 05 : Number 011 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: OT: An Alloy-ite, a Neologism, and Nixon's Favorite Newspaper [Lee Jackson ] Re: Alloy: gallery updates soon to come ["Kathleen T. Presser" ] Re: Alloy: gallery updates soon to come ["electrix" Subject: Re: Alloy: OT: An Alloy-ite, a Neologism, and Nixon's Favorite Newspaper On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 06:18:07 EST, you wrote: ><< http://www.egroups.com/group/puny/info.html >> > >Hey Lee.. thanks for the info... I'm giving the list a try.. Great! All Alloy members are welcome. Come join us in our spam tin. ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:16:12 +0000 From: "Lem Bingley" Subject: Alloy: OT. Re: Tim Dunn, Maniac Driver Tim said: +++ In the UK people in 'white vans' have a real reputation as being maniac drivers ... I could just see every other car hesitating and letting me through in a kind of 'don't *&*% with this guy' kind of way! Cool +++ It's so true. I used to regularly drive a long-wheel-base diesel Transit minibus for the Scuba club I was in at Uni. When you start driving an underpowered, clapped-out old van overloaded with lead weight belts, pressurised tanks and lardy divers, towing a 3m rubber boat with a couple of outboards, you have to rely on the fact that absolutely everyone is going to get out of the way -- or else. It had a turning circle the size of an aerodrome and a braking distance measured in miles. But I loved it. It's so cool when lorry drivers flash their lights at you on the motorway to say it's safe to pull in. You feel like a real trucker... On a slightly more on-topic note, when are you (Tim) going to be playing next in London? Still waiting to see you "perform". Lem Get your free E-mail at http://www.zdnet.co.uk/mail/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:21:13 -0000 From: tim dunn Subject: RE: Alloy: OT. Re: Tim Dunn, Maniac Driver Well, my last band (27) fell apart (no great shame there), but I'mm still playing bass with my other band - not my material though, I've kind of given up hope of finding anyone interested enough, or capable of playing it live, and it's hard getting studio time as Boz seems to be permanently off with Morrissey at the moment.... Harsh have some gigs in February apparently so I'll let you know! Cheers Tim - -----Original Message----- From: Lem Bingley [mailto:lem@zdnetmail.co.uk] Sent: 18 January 2000 18:16 To: alloy@smoe.org Subject: Alloy: OT. Re: Tim Dunn, Maniac Driver Tim said: +++ In the UK people in 'white vans' have a real reputation as being maniac drivers ... I could just see every other car hesitating and letting me through in a kind of 'don't *&*% with this guy' kind of way! Cool +++ It's so true. I used to regularly drive a long-wheel-base diesel Transit minibus for the Scuba club I was in at Uni. When you start driving an underpowered, clapped-out old van overloaded with lead weight belts, pressurised tanks and lardy divers, towing a 3m rubber boat with a couple of outboards, you have to rely on the fact that absolutely everyone is going to get out of the way -- or else. It had a turning circle the size of an aerodrome and a braking distance measured in miles. But I loved it. It's so cool when lorry drivers flash their lights at you on the motorway to say it's safe to pull in. You feel like a real trucker... On a slightly more on-topic note, when are you (Tim) going to be playing next in London? Still waiting to see you "perform". Lem Get your free E-mail at http://www.zdnet.co.uk/mail/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:10:41 -0800 From: "Kathleen T. Presser" Subject: Re: Alloy: gallery updates soon to come Gee electrix, you sure are lucky to get so many dreams of Dolby. I can't remember the last time I dreamt of Thomas Dolby. Seems years ago. The last dream I remember is riding around on a unicycle running into a coyote with only two front legs. Kinda strange I guess. Had an apocolyptic dream though where it was 9pm and 9am at the same time, the clouds were close to the ground and would sometimes fall to the ground. It seemed to be twilight and morning at the same time. I was chased by these electronic little devices. In the distance all I could see was a very big construction site with bulldozers and construction guys giving orders. Try to analyze that one. Pax Aye, Kate;-) electrix wrote: > Well... one thing for sure... I can't be accused of photoyearnalism once my face is up there ;-). > > electrix > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: RThurF@aol.com > Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org > Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 17:39:04 EST > > > > >Thanks to everyone who's sent in their updated photos and questionnaire > >responses for the Gallery. I will be updating things within the next couple > >of weeks (I first have to get Dave to give me a tutorial about a certain AOL > >accounts flipflop i have to do, since my individual account is full at the > >moment & I must have more space!!) I'll let everyone know when the updates > >are completed. > > > >Robin T > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:49:24 -0000 From: "Trevor James Blagg" Subject: Re: Alloy: The Acent of Man Melissa, I bought myself a new toy...A motorised satellite dish. Although still residing in quaint old Bulkington, England, I am now able to pick up such delights as the Libyan News, Serbia at night and Polish drama. The latter being really weird; The French, and Scandinavians translate their programs with subtitles, keeping the original language in tact, The Germans dub their programs to the language of the Fatherland (Dead Strange seeing Pammy Lee, Arnie and Sly sounding like Goebles' grandchildren), and the Poles believe it or not actually keep the original but overdub 1/4 second later with an emotionless Polish dialogue. I suppose the advantage here is that you can both understand the English, or whatever language of the original film, yet, if you are a Pole you get the full monotone translation. It's really funny during high action drama...hearing first the English "I'm going to blow your f**^% Head off" followed almost simultaneously with something that sounds like "Would you like a cup of tea my dear?" Sorry for the confusion Melissa, I just got so excited about spotting the Ascent of Man that I forgot to fully explain to you all that I hadn't in fact emigrated..........Not very likely now either now that I've got my free Saturday afternoon football!! Trevor... - ----- Original Message ----- From: Melissa R. Jordan To: Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 3:59 AM Subject: Re: Alloy: The Acent of Man > > Trevor, > > Are you in Norway? (Or do you just watch Norwegian tv on satellite for fun...) > > If I missed this vital information somewhere along the way, forgive me. (It's > that sieve-like brain of mine...) > > Cheers, > > Melissa > > > -- > Melissa R. Jordan > > Owner/Artist/Rubber Maven, Compass Rose Studios (http://crstudios.com) > Chief Navigator, Compass Rose Consulting (http://askcrc.com) > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:13:03 -0800 From: "Kathleen T. Presser" Subject: Re: Alloy: The Acent of Man Trevor, sounds like a very amusing way to watch television. I got a big laugh about your last statement of the English version "I'm going to blow your ---- head off" with the Polish version sounding like a tea party. That's so hilarious!! Pax Aye, Kate;-) Trevor James Blagg wrote: > Melissa, > > I bought myself a new toy...A motorised satellite dish. Although still > residing in quaint old Bulkington, England, I am now able to pick up such > delights as the Libyan News, Serbia at night and Polish drama. The latter > being really weird; The French, and Scandinavians translate their programs > with subtitles, keeping the original language in tact, The Germans dub their > programs to the language of the Fatherland (Dead Strange seeing Pammy Lee, > Arnie and Sly sounding like Goebles' grandchildren), and the Poles believe > it or not actually keep the original but overdub 1/4 second later with an > emotionless Polish dialogue. I suppose the advantage here is that you can > both understand the English, or whatever language of the original film, yet, > if you are a Pole you get the full monotone translation. > > It's really funny during high action drama...hearing first the English "I'm > going to blow your f**^% Head off" followed almost simultaneously with > something that sounds like "Would you like a cup of tea my dear?" > > Sorry for the confusion Melissa, I just got so excited about spotting the > Ascent of Man that I forgot to fully explain to you all that I hadn't in > fact emigrated..........Not very likely now either now that I've got my free > Saturday afternoon football!! > > Trevor... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Melissa R. Jordan > To: > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 3:59 AM > Subject: Re: Alloy: The Acent of Man > > > > > Trevor, > > > > Are you in Norway? (Or do you just watch Norwegian tv on satellite for > fun...) > > > > If I missed this vital information somewhere along the way, forgive me. > (It's > > that sieve-like brain of mine...) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Melissa > > > > > > -- > > Melissa R. Jordan > > > > Owner/Artist/Rubber Maven, Compass Rose Studios (http://crstudios.com) > > Chief Navigator, Compass Rose Consulting (http://askcrc.com) > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 21:55:22 -0000 From: "Trevor James Blagg" Subject: Alloy: Dazed & Confused - Even More. Dear all, You may be interested to see a CD by Thomas entitled as above, at = cdzone.co.uk. It is described as a film soundtrack. Does anybody know what this is??? It's going for about =A316.00 + vat. Trev.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 20:18:46 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: OT. Re: Tim Dunn, Maniac Driver In a message dated 1/18/00 1:22:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, lem@zdnetmail.co.uk writes: :: I used to regularly drive a long-wheel-base diesel Transit minibus for the Scuba club I was in at Uni. When you start driving an underpowered, clapped-out old van overloaded with lead weight belts, pressurised tanks and lardy divers, towing a 3m rubber boat with a couple of outboards, you have to rely on the fact that absolutely everyone is going to get out of the way -- or else. It had a turning circle the size of an aerodrome and a braking distance measured in miles. :: Have you ever played the London version of Grand Theft Auto? The designers of the game made each type of auto handle differently... and the way you describe the white van moving is exactly how they designed it! Police cars are the best in terms of speed and maneuverability BTW. Oh and Tim, nevermind about asking Joe Strummer to tell you about the marathon! I found out all I need to know just now, and... it's pretty much as I imagined.. Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 22:19:49 -0500 From: "Melissa R. Jordan" Subject: Re: Alloy: Dazed & Confused - Even More. Hey, Trev, Dazed and Confused was a silly (but funny) movie about growing up in the U.S. in the late '70's/early '80's. It came out a few years ago. This must be the second CD of popular music used in the film. I imagine "Science" must be on it. Cheers, Melissa Trevor James Blagg wrote: > > Dear all, > > You may be interested to see a CD by Thomas entitled as above, at = > cdzone.co.uk. > > It is described as a film soundtrack. > > Does anybody know what this is??? It's going for about =A316.00 + vat. > > Trev.... - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist/Rubber Maven, Compass Rose Studios (http://crstudios.com) Chief Navigator, Compass Rose Consulting (http://askcrc.com) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 22:34:11 -0500 From: "Melissa R. Jordan" Subject: Re: Alloy: The Acent of Man Trevor James Blagg wrote: > I bought myself a new toy...A motorised satellite dish. Although still > residing in quaint old Bulkington, England, I am now able to pick up such What fun! I always wanted one when I lived in Russia! > delights as the Libyan News, Serbia at night and Polish drama. The latter > being really weird; The French, and Scandinavians translate their programs > with subtitles, keeping the original language in tact, The Germans dub their > programs to the language of the Fatherland (Dead Strange seeing Pammy Lee, > Arnie and Sly sounding like Goebles' grandchildren), and the Poles believe You just made me snort Diet Coke up my nose, dang you! That's a hilarious thought. It must be great fun to do international channel surfing - I'm envious! > it or not actually keep the original but overdub 1/4 second later with an > emotionless Polish dialogue. I suppose the advantage here is that you can > both understand the English, or whatever language of the original film, yet, > if you are a Pole you get the full monotone translation. That's *exactly* what they do in Russian, too. It must be some Eastern European thang. It's horribly annoying if you understand both languages, to be honest. In Russia, there's one dude who does the dubbing for virtually EVERY English-language action film they get in Russia on VHS. Sometimes he's accurate, but other times, he is really, really off. > It's really funny during high action drama...hearing first the English "I'm > going to blow your f**^% Head off" followed almost simultaneously with > something that sounds like "Would you like a cup of tea my dear?" That's it! I saw Beverly Hills Cop on a cheap Russian bootleg once, and, while Eddie Murphy is screaming, calling someone a "c******king muthaf**ker" (did I use enough *'s?), the Russian calmly says in his usual monotone, "Chyort vozmi" which roughly translates as "devil take you" - it's like saying "damn." He just kept using "chyort vozmi" throughout the film, and I got the giggles something fierce listening to him. > Sorry for the confusion Melissa, I just got so excited about spotting the > Ascent of Man that I forgot to fully explain to you all that I hadn't in > fact emigrated..........Not very likely now either now that I've got my free > Saturday afternoon football!! Well, whew. Thanks for the clarification, Trevor! I was starting to believe that Norway was becoming the most happening place in the world, and, somehow, I was missing out. Union Station, our main train station in DC had a "Christmas in Norway" week in December. One of my best friends is contemplating moving there. Another friend is off there next month to spend a few weeks with an old colleague. I was given a picture book on Norway for Christmas. And, yesterday, my downstairs neighbor (the chainsmoking creep who smoked mice up into my kitchen) was doing unauthorized repairs on his sink just as I put half a pot of Norwegian potato soup (it didn't last as long as I'd hoped) down the garbage disposal, and he got drenched in a minced version of my mom's Scandanavian stew. :-) Yes, it's Norway month here in DC. Cheers, Melissa, still ticked about a 3-hour drive home (16 miles!!!) because Washingtonians don't know how to handle A WHOLE HALF-INCH OF SNOW!!!! (Boneheads!) - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist/Rubber Maven, Compass Rose Studios (http://crstudios.com) Chief Navigator, Compass Rose Consulting (http://askcrc.com) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 100 22:08:05 -0800 From: "electrix" Subject: Re: Alloy: gallery updates soon to come I am not sure about the luck part... I mean, I would rather have dreams of Madonna or some other babes.. ;-) Actually, you must be thinking of Crackers, TDR has only been in my dream once. Probably instigated by Robin T. Your dreams is fabulous though, I wouldn't mind having that one. I could see a great video being film with those images! electrix - ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Kathleen T. Presser" Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:10:41 -0800 > >Gee electrix, you sure are lucky to get so many dreams of Dolby. I can't remember the last time I >dreamt of Thomas Dolby. Seems years ago. The last dream I remember is riding around on a unicycle >running into a coyote with only two front legs. Kinda strange I guess. Had an apocolyptic dream >though where it was 9pm and 9am at the same time, the clouds were close to the ground and would >sometimes fall to the ground. It seemed to be twilight and morning at the same time. I was chased by >these electronic little devices. In the distance all I could see was a very big construction site >with bulldozers and construction guys giving orders. Try to analyze that one. > >Pax Aye, >Kate;-) > >electrix wrote: > >> Well... one thing for sure... I can't be accused of photoyearnalism once my face is up there ;-). >> >> electrix ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V5 #11 **************************