From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V4 #346 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Monday, December 27 1999 Volume 04 : Number 346 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: A small dilemma.. (Off subject) [CJMark@aol.com] Alloy: Re: Christmas Oowies ["Ian Gifford" ] Re: Alloy: Re: Christmas Oowies [CJMark@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Re: Christmas Oowies ["Terry Overall" ] Alloy: Robin's Anniversary [DAbbitt32@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 09:19:32 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Alloy: A small dilemma.. (Off subject) Hello all.. Please excuse my interruption of the normal Alloy discussion.. (normal??) but I have a small request.. if anyone of our UK contingent is willing. First of all.. Happy Boxing Day! I am wondering.. what exactly happens on Boxing Day? Do you pack out all the boxes that the Christmas gifts arrived in? Or is it something along the lines of seeing Lennox Lewis defend his championship? Just curious! So.. initially, I had planned to spend New Year's Eve right here in Miami Beach.. enjoying the huge party that is planned for the area. Since I live right here.. it was a simple matter to attend the concert and party on the beach.. and all on foot! Anyhow.. at the last minute.. I have instead decided to accept an invitation from an English friend who lives in New York to join her at her parent's for the New Year. I will be arriving the 30th and staying near Cambridge for a few days. I'm looking forward to the adventure..! With the new plans.. I thought that since I was going to be there in England.. why not spend the passage into the new millenium year at Greenwich.. the starting point for time.. The research led me to the discovery of all the activities planned for the area.. including the private party with the Queen at the Millenium Dome. Okay.. that one is out.. (Unless one of you has some very heavy credentials!) However.. there is also a big party that features the Eurythmics.. Brian Ferry.. Simply Red.. and others. More like my kind of party! I attempted to buy tickets through Ticket master... but they are saying that the tickets are sold out. :-( Now for the question! Does anyone know of a place I can find two tickets for this event? They cost 49.50 pounds from Ticketmaster. I was wondering if there might be someone who has purchased a number of tickets for resale.. or another agency that might still have tickets left that I can purchase. I really am not sure where to begin.. but thought if anyone would know.. it would be an Alloy person. Since I leave this Wednesday and fly overnight to arrive Thursday.. I don't know of a much better way to find information quickly. (Obviously.. finding these tickets would make me a hero in my friend's eyes.. which is never a bad thing!) So.. if anyone is able to come up with the solution.. pints of ale (that's like warm beer.. right?) all around for you and your friends !!! and of course if we can arrange an Alloy meeting at the same time.. all the better! Thanks all.. for your patience! and ciao for now.. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 09:47:35 EST From: "Ian Gifford" Subject: Alloy: Re: Christmas Oowies Dabbit wrote: > >Dear fellow Alloyites ... > >As we share our lives with each other here, I thought I might get a bit >personal. Turned 31 last Sunday, and my girlfriend of a year and a half >and >I split up on that very day. It's been a tough week, as I thought I'd met >"the one". Unfortunately, "the one" didn't feel that way, too. > >I've found myself struggling a bit with the pain of the breakup, it's >something I'm hardly used to, having been rather protective of my heart my >entire life. This was the first time I've ever truly given it to someone >else, and I feel as though I'm paying a price for it now. I guess it's >something we all must go through at some time or another, but this one >falls >under the "I never thought it would happen to me" category. How pompous, I >know. Rather, I just thought I was always going to make the right choices >and this one seemed pretty right. Worst of all, she's devastatingly >beautiful (she's a model for a living), and we live together, so I still >have >to see her just about daily until she can find another place to live. It >eats at me. > >Ok, that's it. If you can offer any words of wisdom, maybe throw some >cookies my way via snail mail as I try to drown my sorrows within my >stomach >(I grin as I say that), I appreciate it. Dabbit, I sympathize with you fully! I am now Thirty since September. Since Late October I have been seperated from my wife Heidi, since early December I have been in the know that she didn't want to continue with our marriage. Now at this special time of year, she will hardly talk to me and when she does it is rarely civil. I have spent the time since the Canadian Thanksgiving feeling rather low as I surf couches and look for a way to start over. Traditionally, my Christmasses are spent with my family and usually end up in an atrocious mess of complaints, bickering, screaming children and hard feelings. I thought for sure that this christmas would be no exception. It WAS. To my surprise, everyone in my family did their own part to make this one of the most Loving, wonderful Christmasses since the passing of our mother. Everyone had the right word to say to me to make me feel needed and wanted and loved. Everyone had enough spirit in them to make sure that each of us got a dozen hugs and kisses. In short I had a more wonderful Christmas day than I think I have had in Ten years. I thought that I would be sad and lonely this Christmas. I actually feel rejuvenated and fresh. I feel like my life is just beginning and that my sense of Family has also been given some new light. So now I realize that for all the other loves that I will have in my life, My family will ALWAYS be there and they will Love me as an individual and as their Brother/Son. I hope That I don't lose this new-found connection that I have with my Family. I hope that the connection that you have with your family is as strong if not better. Look to them for the cookies to fill the hunger of your soul. Yesterday, I did and I don't think that I will feel hungry for a long long time. I wish you Dabbit (and all of the Alloyance) the best of the season. May your families Love and cherish each other purely for your individualism and independance. May you all experience that which I felt yesterday. I am a new person for it. Love and Peace, Ian ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 10:33:27 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: Christmas Oowies Hey Ian.. What a great uplifting story for the season..! I'm sorry to hear about you and your wife taking different paths.. but in fact.. that is just what they are.. different paths.. perhaps no longer parallel.. I send you my best for a full recovery.. which it sounds as if you are well on your way toward.. and to an extremely fulfilling new millenium year.. Ciao for now.. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 23:17:22 -0000 From: "Terry Overall" Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: Christmas Oowies There definitely seems to be something in the air with regards to pre-millenium seperations. I've just spent my worst (by some considerable way) christmas holiday all alone away from my wife of eight years and three-year old son. My tale is fairly straight forward, in marriage-guidance by June - seperated by early October - living apart and facing a divorce in December. And I'm not the ony guy I know who's going through this - I can think of at least two other colleagues of mine with wives who have wanted a 'change of direction'. I consider myself reasonably lucky as I'm a young-ish thirty-two years old. Still it's still a killer blow when all your life you've actually WANTED to be a responsible adult/married man/father and all that gets ripped away from you. I'm not in the slightest bit biased toward woman-kind and the drive for equality, but recent events have certainly convinced me that it's not a man's world anymore, not by a long way. Let's put it this way, if even a certified marital player like Howard Stern is going through this living hell then we should all watch our backs. And as for the guys in Alloy who're also going through this, keep your chin up guys - better things await us all eventually - that's what I keep telling myself in my darker moments (and believe me, some of those are pitch). Damn, I need cheering up. Hey Thomas, got any good tunes for the lonely hearts section? TEL - ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Gifford To: Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 2:47 PM Subject: Alloy: Re: Christmas Oowies > > > > Dabbit wrote: > > > >Dear fellow Alloyites ... > > > >As we share our lives with each other here, I thought I might get a bit > >personal. Turned 31 last Sunday, and my girlfriend of a year and a half > >and > >I split up on that very day. It's been a tough week, as I thought I'd met > >"the one". Unfortunately, "the one" didn't feel that way, too. > > > >I've found myself struggling a bit with the pain of the breakup, it's > >something I'm hardly used to, having been rather protective of my heart my > >entire life. This was the first time I've ever truly given it to someone > >else, and I feel as though I'm paying a price for it now. I guess it's > >something we all must go through at some time or another, but this one > >falls > >under the "I never thought it would happen to me" category. How pompous, I > >know. Rather, I just thought I was always going to make the right choices > >and this one seemed pretty right. Worst of all, she's devastatingly > >beautiful (she's a model for a living), and we live together, so I still > >have > >to see her just about daily until she can find another place to live. It > >eats at me. > > > >Ok, that's it. If you can offer any words of wisdom, maybe throw some > >cookies my way via snail mail as I try to drown my sorrows within my > >stomach > >(I grin as I say that), I appreciate it. > > > Dabbit, > > I sympathize with you fully! I am now Thirty since September. Since Late > October I have been seperated from my wife Heidi, since early December I > have been in the know that she didn't want to continue with our marriage. > Now at this special time of year, she will hardly talk to me and when she > does it is rarely civil. > > I have spent the time since the Canadian Thanksgiving feeling rather low as > I surf couches and look for a way to start over. > > Traditionally, my Christmasses are spent with my family and usually end up > in an atrocious mess of complaints, bickering, screaming children and hard > feelings. I thought for sure that this christmas would be no exception. It > WAS. To my surprise, everyone in my family did their own part to make this > one of the most Loving, wonderful Christmasses since the passing of our > mother. > > Everyone had the right word to say to me to make me feel needed and wanted > and loved. Everyone had enough spirit in them to make sure that each of us > got a dozen hugs and kisses. In short I had a more wonderful Christmas day > than I think I have had in Ten years. > > I thought that I would be sad and lonely this Christmas. I actually feel > rejuvenated and fresh. I feel like my life is just beginning and that my > sense of Family has also been given some new light. So now I realize that > for all the other loves that I will have in my life, My family will ALWAYS > be there and they will Love me as an individual and as their Brother/Son. I > hope That I don't lose this new-found connection that I have with my Family. > I hope that the connection that you have with your family is as strong if > not better. Look to them for the cookies to fill the hunger of your soul. > Yesterday, I did and I don't think that I will feel hungry for a long long > time. > > I wish you Dabbit (and all of the Alloyance) the best of the season. May > your families Love and cherish each other purely for your individualism and > independance. May you all experience that which I felt yesterday. I am a new > person for it. > > Love and Peace, > > Ian > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:56:27 -0800 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: Christmas Oowies At 03:17 PM 12/26/99 , you wrote: >There definitely seems to be something in the air with regards to >pre-millenium seperations. I've just spent my worst (by some considerable >way) christmas holiday all alone away from my wife of eight years and >three-year old son. I think you may have something there. My husband and I got a note from his daughter (my step-daughter) this past week apologising for not writing in a while, explaining that her mother and stepfather had been in the midst of divorce. I'm sorry to hear of so many of our members having such a tough time in their personal lives. My thoughts are with all of you during this time. On the bright side, relationship-wise, today is Kevin and my 11th anniversary of togetherness. (I feel a bit guilty sharing my happiness with all of you, considering, but there it is.) Robyn M @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.alveus.com/kbrm/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 21:55:29 EST From: DAbbitt32@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Robin's Anniversary Robin - You should NEVER be afraid to share your happiness. Congratulations to you and Kevin. XO - -Dabbitt ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V4 #346 ***************************