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alloy-digest Saturday, December 18 1999 Volume 04 : Number 337
Today's Subjects:
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Alloy: Golden Age of Video, A&H, and M2 [Lee Jackson <jacksonhome@home.co]
Re: Alloy: Horrorscopic PS ["electrix" <electrix@mail.electricson.com>]
Re: Alloy: Golden Age of Video, A&H, and M2 ["electrix" <electrix@mail.el]
Re: Alloy: Golden Age of Video, A&H, and M2 [Lee Jackson <jacksonhome@hom]
Re: Alloy: Live Wireless LD [andyjmail@cheerful.com]
Re: Alloy: Golden Age of Video, A&H, and M2 [Robyn Moore <kbrm@iefx.com>]
RE: Alloy: Just back.... (Libra rant! Horrorscopic) ["D'Arcy Salzmann" <d]
Re: Alloy: Horrorscopic PS [DAbbitt32@aol.com]
Re: Alloy: Just back.... (Libra rant! Horrorscopic) ["Kathleen T. Presser]
Re: Alloy: Horrorscopic PS ["Kathleen T. Presser" <Kathleen.Presser@corp.]
Alloy: Kate is having a birthday! [DAbbitt32@aol.com]
Alloy: Horrorscopic PS ["Krzysko, William" <WilliamK@Castwell.CitationCor]
Re: Alloy: Horrorscopic PS [RThurF@aol.com]
Re: Alloy: Golden Age of Video, A&H, and M2 [Spencer2424@aol.com]
Re: Alloy: Live Wireless LD [Spencer2424@aol.com]
Re: Alloy: Golden Age of Video, A&H, and M2 [Lee Jackson <jacksonhome@hom]
Re: Alloy: Golden Age of Video, A&H, and M2 [Spencer2424@aol.com]
Re: Alloy: Golden Age of Video, A&H, and M2 ["electrix" <electrix@mail.el]
Alloy: >>>> [Jon Valle <daemion@computer.net>]
Re: Alloy: Flat Earth Tourbook ["Melissa R. Jordan" <wearart@erols.com>]
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 01:16:11 -0600
From: Lee Jackson <jacksonhome@home.com>
Subject: Alloy: Golden Age of Video, A&H, and M2
Thanks to the miracle (ahem) of eBay, I am now the proud owner of a VHS copy of The Golden Age of Video. Bidding was quite hot on it, buy I got it, by gum. I've now managed to collect TGAOV, Live Wireless, and the 4-song Video 45.
My goal now is to try and locate other videos, specifically the stuff from Astronauts and Heretics. More specifically, "I Love You Goodbye." Has this or any other A&H video ever been released on VHS or DVD?
Finally, does anyone here get M2, the sister channel to MTV? I heard today that at the stroke of midnight EST on the new year, they're going to start playing "every video ever made," and in alphabetical order, no less. Someone mentioned the number 19,000 when talking about how many this meant they're playing.
I'd like to nominate this as a totally informal and unofficial non-Alloy activity - anyone who has M2, could you please record Thomas' videos as they come by? All we need is an alphabetized listing of his stuff, and someone with M2 to watch out for each one. If M2 is indeed doing what they say they'll do, I have a feeling that this is the only way anyone is ever going to get a complete collection of Thomas' work (unless we can beseech the Spectacled One himself to put them out on DVD <g>).
- --
Lee Jackson (jacksonhome@home.com)
http://gameaudio.3dportal.com
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 99 00:47:19 -0800
From: "electrix" <electrix@mail.electricson.com>
Subject: Re: Alloy: Horrorscopic PS
> > Gemini: 5
> > Scorpio: 5
> > Aquarius: 5
Yeah bayby... that's more like it, shaggadelic!
>I'd made a mistake when I first posted this, but in reality there are 5
>Geminis, not the 4 I'd originally posted.
Hey, hey.... no cheating now! :-)
electrix
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 99 01:20:08 -0800
From: "electrix" <electrix@mail.electricson.com>
Subject: Re: Alloy: Golden Age of Video, A&H, and M2
>Thanks to the miracle (ahem) of eBay, I am now the proud owner of a VHS >copy of The Golden Age of Video. Bidding was quite hot on it, buy I >got it, by gum. I've now managed to collect TGAOV, Live Wireless, and >the 4-song Video 45.
Welllll... happy for you! Doesn't "The Power of Dreams" Series Discovery Channel Documentary Video counts?... I mean, it may not be a musical video per say... but His_Badness OhsoFlat wrote the score to it. Might as well go for all of it.. Gothic, Howard the Duck, et al.
By the way, have we all seen this new orange cover release of Thomas Dolby compilation called "Hyperactive."? I just recently came across it and thought it to be quaint. Is like... EMI marketeers are trying to revive some interest in the tunes or something.
BTW This is such a coincidence to the nocturnal obsession of RThurF... hey Robin... maybe you ought to check out The Power of Dream documentary...
I guess we all have our share of dreaming of "idols." Mine so far have been Herbie Hancock, John McLaughlin and Michael Jackson....(I don't know why the hell they are all guys. Seriously, I am not gay!)... can't wait to dream about his sister Janet or the infamous Madonna!!! :-)
"cusp Aquarius - get serious she's an airhead" -- TDR
electrix
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 03:44:03 -0600
From: Lee Jackson <jacksonhome@home.com>
Subject: Re: Alloy: Golden Age of Video, A&H, and M2
On Fri, 17 Dec 99 01:20:08 -0800, you wrote:
>Doesn't "The Power of Dreams" Series Discovery Channel Documentary Video counts?
I'm sure it does. I vaguely remember seeing that show - I work nights, and I don't get to watch the Discovery channel as much as I'd like.
>Might as well go for all of it.. Gothic, Howard the Duck, et al.
I don't have Gothic yet, nor Rockula. I saw Howard the Duck on opening day, though. Gimme a gimlet, bartender....
>By the way, have we all seen this new orange cover release of Thomas Dolby compilation called "Hyperactive."? I just recently came across it and thought it to be quaint. Is like... EMI marketeers are trying to revive some interest in the tunes or something.
No, not familiar with it. Details, please - what does it contain?
>(I don't know why the hell they are all guys. Seriously, I am not gay!)...
Hell, I'd be less worried about that in my own dreams than if I suddenly started having Sailor Moon dreams, or something similar. I think my wife would be a bit worried if that happened, too. ;-)
- --
Lee Jackson (jacksonhome@home.com)
http://gameaudio.3dportal.com
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 05:25:29 -0500 (EST)
From: andyjmail@cheerful.com
Subject: Re: Alloy: Live Wireless LD
Festive Greetings.
Thanks for the replies re: Live Wireless...
The reason I ask is that I'm about to make an audio
copy of Live Wireless so that I can enjoy it
without fiddling around with videotapes (which is
cumbersome and always carries the risk of wear and tear
or terminal damage).
Listening via the VCR's stereo line-outs it's very good
except that it sounds to me like the original master
was recorded on a reel-to-reel with dirty heads and/or
a worn tape - the dropouts are numerous.
So I was wondering if one day I'll ever be able in some
way to get my hands on a version with no dropouts?
i.e. was the actual master good quality but the VHS
copies were a bit wonky?
Nice to hear someone has the LD - do you have a machine
to play it on though?!!
Cheers,
+Andy+
P.S. So far the distribution of the Alloyed's star signs is looking quite interesting! :-)
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 02:47:30 -0800
From: Robyn Moore <kbrm@iefx.com>
Subject: Re: Alloy: Golden Age of Video, A&H, and M2
At 01:44 AM 12/17/99 , Lee Jackson wrote:
>On Fri, 17 Dec 99 01:20:08 -0800, you wrote:
>
> >Doesn't "The Power of Dreams" Series Discovery Channel Documentary Video
> counts?
>
>I'm sure it does. I vaguely remember seeing that show - I work nights, and
>I don't get to watch the Discovery channel as much as I'd like.
I've been valiantly looking for a repeat of this, since I missed it
first go-round.
> >Might as well go for all of it.. Gothic, Howard the Duck, et al.
>
>I don't have Gothic yet, nor Rockula. I saw Howard the Duck on opening
>day, though. Gimme a gimlet, bartender....
I have Howard the Duck on VHS as well as the cassette of the soundtrack
and a 45 or two. I have the CD and vinyl of Gothic (my very first CD) as
well as a taped copy of the movie. I lucked into a laserdisc of Rockula on
eBay not too long ago, but haven't had time to watch it yet. Was the
soundtrack ever released for that one? I also have the soundtrack for Toys
on CD and a taped copy of the movie. I have to get a new copy of We're Back
(kiddo dumped something sticky in it) and Ferngully. I'm also looking for
the soundtracks for both of those. And just to round out the soundtrack
category, I have Gate To The Mind's Eye on VHS, CD and DVD. (got the DVD in
a 2-pack with a similar work called Televoid for practically nothing.)
> >By the way, have we all seen this new orange cover release of Thomas
> Dolby compilation called "Hyperactive."? I just recently came across it
> and thought it to be quaint. Is like... EMI marketeers are trying to
> revive some interest in the tunes or something.
>
>No, not familiar with it. Details, please - what does it contain?
I got this just last week, when I was in Tower looking for a copy of 12
+ 12.
It's playlist is as follows: Hyperactive!/She Blinded Me With Science/I
Scare Myself/Key To Her Ferrari/The Flat Earth/Mulu The Rain Forest/Europa
And The Pirate Twins/The Ability To Swing/Radio Silence/Cloudburst At
Shingle Street/Windpower/Screen Kiss/White City/Airhead/Hot Sauce/May The
Cube Be With You.
This is the EMI Gold edition of Hyperactive, as opposed to the Disky
edition, which has a different playlist. I haven't had time to listen to
this yet, so I can't speak with authority as to which version of each
particular song is on the CD.
> >(I don't know why the hell they are all guys. Seriously, I am not gay!)...
>
>Hell, I'd be less worried about that in my own dreams than if I suddenly
>started having Sailor Moon dreams, or something similar. I think my wife
>would be a bit worried if that happened, too. ;-)
::grin:: I think my husband would be surprised if I didn't, given the
collection of Sailor Moon dolls on our headboard.
Robyn M
@ Robyn Moore <kbrm@iefx.com>
@ http://www.alveus.com/kbrm/robyn.html
@ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C.
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:26:02 -0500
From: "D'Arcy Salzmann" <darcy@salzmann.com>
Subject: RE: Alloy: Just back.... (Libra rant! Horrorscopic)
Virgo. September 14th.
D'Arcy J. Salzmann
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-alloy@smoe.org [mailto:owner-alloy@smoe.org] On Behalf Of
RThurF@aol.com
Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 12:07 AM
To: alloy@smoe.org
Subject: Re: Alloy: Just back.... (Libra rant! Horrorscopic)
In a message dated 12/16/99 6:41:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Kathleen.Presser@corp.go.com writes:
:: How many Sags are there besides myself? Inquiring Horse minds would like
to
know. ::
On my little chart I have three Alloy members who are known Sagittarians,
including yourself. Here are the zodiac results thus far:
Aries: 1
Taurus: 0
Gemini: 4
Cancer: 3
Leo: 0
Virgo: 1
Libra: 2 (including Thomas!)
Scorpio: 5
Sagittarius: 3
Capricorn: 0
Aquarius: 4
Pisces: 1
BTW in response to electrix' statement of Geminis being talkative, I've
always been a little on the quiet side, myself... though being around
intelligent, creative or just plain weird people tends to bring out the
talkative side of me :)
Robin T
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:59:08 EST
From: DAbbitt32@aol.com
Subject: Re: Alloy: Horrorscopic PS
Sag and proud. The birthday is Sunday, send checks to my email address.
Love and kisses,
- -Dabbitt
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:25:13 -0800
From: "Kathleen T. Presser" <Kathleen.Presser@corp.go.com>
Subject: Re: Alloy: Just back.... (Libra rant! Horrorscopic)
Russell,
October 1st is my youngest son's birthday.
Pax Aye,
Kate;-)
Russell Milliner wrote:
> Chock up another Libra...Oct 1st.
>
> -Russell Milliner
>
> RThurF@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 12/16/99 6:41:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > Kathleen.Presser@corp.go.com writes:
> >
> > :: How many Sags are there besides myself? Inquiring Horse minds would like to
> > know. ::
> >
> > On my little chart I have three Alloy members who are known Sagittarians,
> > including yourself. Here are the zodiac results thus far:
> >
> > Aries: 1
> > Taurus: 0
> > Gemini: 4
> > Cancer: 3
> > Leo: 0
> > Virgo: 1
> > Libra: 2 (including Thomas!)
> > Scorpio: 5
> > Sagittarius: 3
> > Capricorn: 0
> > Aquarius: 4
> > Pisces: 1
> >
> > BTW in response to electrix' statement of Geminis being talkative, I've
> > always been a little on the quiet side, myself... though being around
> > intelligent, creative or just plain weird people tends to bring out the
> > talkative side of me :)
> >
> > Robin T
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 09:31:56 -0800
From: "Kathleen T. Presser" <Kathleen.Presser@corp.go.com>
Subject: Re: Alloy: Horrorscopic PS
Dabitt,
LOL, well, my birthday is tomorrow and needless to say I've spruced myself
up today to celebrate early. Happy birthday by the way. Isn't it great to
have Sag. as your sun sign?? I'm going to bake myself a cake and eat a piece
of it too.
Pax Aye,
Kate;-) I may not send a check but I can send a birthday wish.
DAbbitt32@aol.com wrote:
> Sag and proud. The birthday is Sunday, send checks to my email address.
>
> Love and kisses,
>
> -Dabbitt
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:47:58 EST
From: DAbbitt32@aol.com
Subject: Alloy: Kate is having a birthday!
Kate -
Save me a piece! Happy birthday!
- -Dabbitt
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:02:32 -0600
From: "Krzysko, William" <WilliamK@Castwell.CitationCorp.com>
Subject: Alloy: Horrorscopic PS
Leo
Aug 17
Bill K
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:34:36 EST
From: RThurF@aol.com
Subject: Re: Alloy: Horrorscopic PS
In a message dated 12/17/99 11:05:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
DAbbitt32@aol.com writes:
:: Sag and proud. The birthday is Sunday, send checks to my email address. ::
I already had you in my stats (remember the Alloy Names to Faces Gallery
questionairre you filled out! :) Happy Birthday in advance of the 19th,
Dabbit!!
Robin T
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 19:01:31 EST
From: Spencer2424@aol.com
Subject: Re: Alloy: Golden Age of Video, A&H, and M2
In a message dated 12/17/99 12:22:09 AM Mountain Standard Time,
jacksonhome@home.com writes:
<< Thanks to the miracle (ahem) of eBay, I am now the proud owner of a VHS
copy of The Golden Age of Video. Bidding was quite hot on it, buy I got it,
by gum >>
Just curious - how much did you end up paying for it?
- - Craig
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 19:08:55 EST
From: Spencer2424@aol.com
Subject: Re: Alloy: Live Wireless LD
In a message dated 12/17/99 3:30:51 AM Mountain Standard Time,
andyjmail@cheerful.com writes:
<< Listening via the VCR's stereo line-outs it's very good
except that it sounds to me like the original master
was recorded on a reel-to-reel with dirty heads and/or
a worn tape - the dropouts are numerous. >>
I don't know exactly what sort of drop-outs you are experiencing with your
VHS tape, but I can tell you that the Laser Disc contains the same "cutaways"
to the projectionist room as the video (and the audio drops out dramatically
during those sequences). Even the flexi-disc that was issued of Airwaves has
those "cutaways", so I don't know if any commercial version of the concert
with full audio exists in a commercially produced format. Anyone else have
any info on this?
- - Craig
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 18:28:11 -0600
From: Lee Jackson <jacksonhome@home.com>
Subject: Re: Alloy: Golden Age of Video, A&H, and M2
On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 19:01:31 EST, you wrote:
><< Thanks to the miracle (ahem) of eBay, I am now the proud owner of a VHS
>copy of The Golden Age of Video. Bidding was quite hot on it, buy I got it,
>by gum >>
>
>Just curious - how much did you end up paying for it?
$48 - like I said, bidding was heavy. This is the first VHS copy I've seen of the thing. I don't have a laserdisc player - if I did, I probably could have saved a few bucks, but then I'd be out $350 or so for the LD player. ;-)
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 20:13:05 EST
From: Spencer2424@aol.com
Subject: Re: Alloy: Golden Age of Video, A&H, and M2
In a message dated 12/17/99 5:35:45 PM Mountain Standard Time,
jacksonhome@home.com writes:
<< $48 - like I said, bidding was heavy. This is the first VHS copy I've
seen of the thing. I don't have a laserdisc player - if I did, I probably
could have saved a few bucks, but then I'd be out $350 or so for the LD
player. ;-) >>
Wow - Maybe I ought to sell mine! So are the laser disc copies actually
worth less than the VHS edition? I suppose that could be the case, given how
few people actually own laser disc machines. That still amazes me though;
$48 for a tape (which will, eventually, self-destruct, no matter how well
cared for). Maybe they'll reissue the thing on DVD - that would be a nice
disc to have!
- - Craig
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 99 20:08:04 -0800
From: "electrix" <electrix@mail.electricson.com>
Subject: Re: Alloy: Golden Age of Video, A&H, and M2
>>Doesn't "The Power of Dreams" Series Discovery Channel Documentary Video counts?
>
>I'm sure it does. I vaguely remember seeing that show - I work nights, and I don't get to watch the Discovery channel as much as I'd like.
Guess what... Discovery Channel puts out a video catalog. You can ask for one to be sent to you by calling 1-800-207-5775 - 24 hours.
I bought mine from there. In fact, they have a whole bunch of great Discovery Channel Videos!
>>By the way, have we all seen this new orange cover release of Thomas Dolby compilation called "Hyperactive."? I just recently came across it and thought it to be quaint. Is like... EMI marketeers are trying to revive some interest in the tunes or something.
>
>No, not familiar with it. Details, please - what does it contain?
I guess that one was already answered. I haven't bought it since it just looks like rehash materials I already have. I'll wait until I get more insight from someone on this mail list to see if they are any distinct version worth going after.
electrix
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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 00:13:18 -0500
From: Jon Valle <daemion@computer.net>
Subject: Alloy: >>>>
Aries. March 28 :)
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Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 00:46:05 -0500
From: "Melissa R. Jordan" <wearart@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Alloy: Flat Earth Tourbook
jonathan.chiddick@nokia.com wrote: (re: the Flat Earth Tourbook)
> if you remember the guy who sold it said that it was in mint condition.
Yeah, it's amazing how many "mint" things there are out on eBay that really,
really aren't.
> I complained a lot as I ended up paying more for this than it was really
> worth. The condition was good to very good but mint it was not. The contents
> are quite interesting though.
>
Well, it's cool that the book itself is neat. I just got ripped off on eBay
(only the first time, though, in 40+ transactions) on a Joe Jackson concert
poster. The dude who sold it to me was just making xerox copies of a real poster
(and bad xerox copies at that) and auctioning them off. I'm one ticked off
puppy.
> I am currently putting together my TMDR discography into a format that I can
> deliver to the web. Once I get that far I'll let you know the http address
> and you can take a look yourself.
Oh, thank you so much! That would be very cool. I used to have a really huge
Dolby collection - while I was away in Russia, all my stuff was stored at my
mother's house. Little did I know that my mom had hired a friend of a friend to
housekeep for her. This poor woman suffered a nervous breakdown which manifested
itself in bizarre behavior at Mom's, including her dumping dog food all over my
stored Dolby and Star Wars memorabilia, as well as all my school documents.
Hungry squirrels chewed their way into Mom's attic for the dog food, and most of
my goodies were history. It was, honestly, a pretty devastating loss (I was
pretty sentimental about my Dolby stuff, and I could have put a kid through
college on the current day value of my Star Wars things.) Eh, well...
> Although I only intend documenting the solo
> work I will also be including info about the merchandise etc. that I have
> managed to get my grubby little hands on.
>
Ooooh, neat - you know I love funky little merchandising souvenirs. I was really
surprised that no one else bid on the nifty Dissidents promo item that I got on
eBay. It looks like a government ID on a clip, with a photo of Our Fearless
Leader from the video, plus the release date info, etc., on a green field. I
thought it was cool and very appropriate.
> I never saw TMDR live which is a big regret. I suppose that's why I'm on
> this collecting crusade... The man is still alive and kicking. Who knows, if
>
Same for me. Nobody cool ever performed anywhere near where I grew up. Now, my
home town has a civic center that draws everyone from Neil Diamond to Korn -
performers prefer it to the hellholes in Chicago. (By the way, I wasn't saying
that Neil Diamond or Korn were necessarily cool, just that the gamut is now run
in lovely Moline, Illinois!)
> he ever decides to do some small live work again (as he has himself said he
> would like to) maybe we will be lucky enough to be invited. Wouldn't that be
> a gas.
>
You said it, buckaroo!
> If I ever get some time I'll scan the pages. I would like to see the
> backstage passes and anything else that you have. I have a Flat Earth
>
After the holidays (and before my first delegation arrives for the new year),
I'll get my stuff scanned in, so it can be viewed.
> sweatshirt that I recently acquired.
Aha! You are the owner of the sleeveless sweatshirt (how amazingly '80's, no?)
that has been making periodic appearances on eBay. The first time I saw it, I
just laughed because the style screams early '80's. I had a while sleeveless
sweatshirt that I wore over a lavender Izod polo shirt, with the collar turned
up. I was a totally low-rent preppy geek in high school! (My Izods came from the
secondhand store.) :-)
Cheers,
Melissa
- --
Melissa R. Jordan
Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios (www.crstudios.com)
Owner, Compass Rose Consulting (www.askcrc.com)
Visit my new blank, websites! Text, pictures, and all that coming soon!!!
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