From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V4 #300 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Sunday, November 7 1999 Volume 04 : Number 300 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: My brain is like a well cooked turnip.... ["Ian Gifford" ] Re: Alloy: My brain is like a well cooked turnip.... ["Brian R. Gilstrap"] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 19:07:09 GMT From: "Ian Gifford" Subject: Alloy: My brain is like a well cooked turnip.... I think that My brain is like a sieve is really just a metaphor for acouple of people who have a realtionship that involves alot of POT. They sit around all day taking turns rolling and critcizing each other (ie..."hey man yours always canoe!". Then at the line "someday i'm going to douse that bonfire..." is about the other person deciding to just resort to bongs...and the other being insanely envious! What do you all think? I think that's why i covered it! That's why I really liked the reggae part..... ian (under the influence of way too much coffee and sugar) (and nothing else) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Nov 99 19:12:56 -0800 From: "electrix" Subject: Alloy: The Musician One of my concerns is the emphasis of recorded music replacing the value of the musician performer. It is becoming increasingly easy to put together a piece of musical work with present technology at the expense of debilitating the musician's role of performing the material or challenging their ability to execute the materials. I think the Grammy's promotes this mentally. I haven't watch one in a long, long time... but I bet they still don't have a category for best musical execution or performance of the year. The way I view musicians is similar to a well train Olympic athlete. Given emphasis in skill of the musician, many incredible artistic works could be developed. Certainly, skill alone is not the main ingredient --- creativity is also essential. Also, a wide exposure to the Arts in general. I usually tend to examine a piece of work for what it is just to broaden my perspective. Even though I realize that there is much commercialism in the music industry, it is amazing what one can cull from a recording. So it is no wonder that one minute I can be listening to Barbara Streisand and then next listening to Stravinsky. Certaintly, Barbara couldn't compare to Stravinsky's work in artistic complexity and execution, but it does not make her any "less" of an artistic vehicle. I think musicians, especially, tend be myopic in that way. I believe there is a difference in realizing something is more substantial than another and acknowledging as that. But to actively decry a piece as garbage is myopic. It is perhaps better to state that one doesn't like the art work! I suppose, I am unique in that way. I look at any art work as a scientist looks at its speciments (Ooops, watch out for those tubes and wires!!! :-)) Of course, I do have my preferred staple of music... consistently they are very progressi In any event, the musicians today is faced with some career decisions based on the ease of technology. He can easily be a recording musician or an excellent performer of his/her instrument and the music. It is here that the chasm seems to be taking place in the new global fusion of music. Watch out for the cross-cultural pollination! I was inspired to write this after attending a Bill Frisell (avant-guard guitarist) local club concert. He is as interesting as he is on his recordings as he is in his performance and instrumental execution. Bill has somehow come up with a cross of Nashville/Jazz-Avant Garde concept. Not much of a Country Music afficionado, I found myself floating with the juxtapose melodies of the tunes and the twangy steel/lap guitar also on stage. This just made me realize how much more of the wonderful world of music there is to be exposed still. Cross-pollination seems to breed exotic musical fertility. electrix ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 22:47:52 -0600 From: "Brian R. Gilstrap" Subject: Re: Alloy: My brain is like a well cooked turnip.... Ian Gifford wrote: > > I think that My brain is like a sieve is really just a metaphor for acouple > of people who have a realtionship that involves alot of POT. They sit around > all day taking turns rolling and critcizing each other (ie..."hey man yours > always canoe!". Then at the line "someday i'm going to douse that > bonfire..." is about the other person deciding to just resort to bongs...and > the other being insanely envious! > > What do you all think? I think that's why i covered it! > > That's why I really liked the reggae part..... > > ian > > (under the influence of way too much coffee and sugar) > > (and nothing else) I think someone's been nipping from the cooking sherry a bit too much... :-) Scoop - -- Brian R. Gilstrap gilstrap@inlink.com http://www.inlink.com/~gilstrap Husband and father, Tai Chi practitioner, Software architect Java developer, Macintosh User, Winnie-the-Pooh fan "Understanding is a three edged sword. There's your side, there's the other side, and then there's the truth." --Kosh ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V4 #300 ***************************