From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V4 #251 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Wednesday, September 15 1999 Volume 04 : Number 251 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Birthday Boy! ["Stephen M. Tilson" ] Alloy: Sea runs dry and the moon leaves its orbit ["Lem Bingley" ] Re: Alloy: Sea runs dry and the moon leaves its orbit [Slarvibarglhee ] Re: Alloy: Holy Crap! I Almost Forgot! [Chris Cracknell Subject: Alloy: Birthday Boy! Dear Crackers, Happy Birthday to you Happy Birthday to you You play like a Cajun And you sing like one too. - -or- Happy Birthday to you Happy Birthday to you Sometimes you're Ass Kick-man And sometimes you're you. - -or- May this be a year of blessings for you, Chris! Hey, you've already beat the "Curse of Hyperactive!". It looks like you're well on your way. Affectionately, /\/\iles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:22:25 +0100 From: "Lem Bingley" Subject: Alloy: Sea runs dry and the moon leaves its orbit Happy Birthday plus one, Crackers! Hope you managed to celebrate in appropriately restrained style (I bet). From the fact that the tide is still high on the Thames, I suspect that the moon has failed to leave its orbit. Can't say for sure as it's a horrid overcast day today. Personally, I'm just relieved we all got through August 27th. I remember reading about Nostradamus when I was about 10 and in the article it said he predicted the world would end Aug 27 1999. I remember thinking "Oh no!" and getting into a real panic. But then I worked out that I'd be 32 in 1999 and said to myself, "Oh, that's okay, I'll have lived my life..." Feels slightly different now that I'm here of course. Cheers, Lem Get your free E-mail at http://www.zdnet.co.uk/mail/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 06:47:43 EDT From: Keys35@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Holy Crap! I Almost Forgot! I used to love that show - I had a crush on Maya (sp?) - not to mention her morphing powers. COOL Jim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:50:16 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Ex'pression Center for New Media w?Thomas as Guest speaker This sounds like it'll be a great party... just slightly too expensive for me to attend though..! Robin T Ex'pression Center for New Media hosts hands on conference on the music business - five years into the future EMERYVILLE, Calif--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 14, 1999--It could only happen at Ex'pression. Requirement #1: Participants at the Music Business 2005 Conference Oct. 15-17 need not only to be able to focus their discussions and debates on the music business five years into the future - they have to be able to literally hold that future in their hands, to listen to it, to look inside it's guts, to consider it's pros and cons and to play with it. "No problem," promised Gary Platt, president of Ex'pression Center for New Media, host of the conference of audio futurists at the San Francisco Bay Area school he opened earlier this year. Ex'pression's just-completed campus is up to the task and its students and staff, as always, are eager to entertain, Platt promised. The key difference between your usual industry conference and the breath-taking event scheduled at Ex'pression is an intense hands-on approach that would be simply unattainable in any convention hall or hotel banquet room, explained event producer David Schwartz, former editor in chief of Mix Magazine. Hands-on is an Ex'pression specialty. In Ex'pression's theater, leading innovators from the music, audio, computer and Internet industries will conduct panel discussions on subjects such as redefining the role of the record label; the music business beyond MP3; new models for selling and delivering music; and the convergence of the Internet, radio, TV and multimedia broadcasting. Meanwhile, in Ex'pression's various classrooms and recording studios, experts will demonstrate the latest in recording hardware and software and give participants a chance to author a DVD, set up an Internet radio broadcast, learn 5.1 Surround mixing tips, study the home audio system of tomorrow, and examine MP3 from the inside out. A special treat, headlined as the "Producer's Playhouse," is planned for the Harman Studio at Ex'pression, featuring the incomparable Studer D950S mixing console. The new studio will be debuted during this conference. Recording artist Steve Miller will be working there. So will multi-platinum producers Jerry Harrison (Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Verve Pipe, Crash Test Dummies), David Kahne (Sugar Ray, No Doubt, Shawn Colvin, Sublime), David Pack (Wynonna, Linda Rondstadt, West Side Story collection), and Arne Frager, owner of world-renowned Plant recording studios in Sausalito, Calif., and a veteran producer. Rocket Network's Internet recording studios for online audio collaboration will also use the Studer studio to link together artists from several places around the world over a Web site for an online recording session at full professional levels of fidelity. Personalities from Audio Cafe will be mixing up an audience-participation debate in the espresso bar, where scheduled discussions range from intellectual property rights in Cyberspace to barriers still facing women and minorities in the industry; the future of consumer audio playback devices; and "who's really running the music industry?" The list of more than 50 presenters for the three-day event includes: Henry Azima (Founder & Ceo, NXT), John Perry Barlow (futurist, Electronic Frontier Foundation; Grateful Dead lyricist), Nicholas Butterworth (President & CEO, SonicNet/ATN), Ted Cohen (Producer, Consulting Adults/Webnoize), Thomas Dolby Robertson (CEO, Beatnik; Recording Artist), Mike Farrace (V. P. Worldwide Marketing, Tower Records), Lisa Farris (ECat VP, Mktg., MCA/Universal), Les Garland (President, Sputnik 7; Co-Founder, MTV), Mike Greene (CEO, NARAS), Thomas Hale (President & CEO, Wired Planet), Rolf Hartley (Audio Product Marketing Manager, Sonic Solutions), Liz Heller (former Exec.V.P., Capitol Records), Gerry Kearby (CEO, Liquid Audio), Andrew Keen (Founder, Chairman & CEO, Audiocafe.com), John Kellogg (Gen. Mgr., Multichannel Music, Dolby), Robert H Kohn (Chairman, EMusic), David Leibowitz (President & CEO, Aris Technologies), Dave Pakman (CEO & President, MyPlay), Skip Pizzi (Interactive TV Manager, Microsoft), Phil Ramone (Producer), and Jay Samit (EMI Music). The full list and the latest details on conference plans, are available on the Web at www.MB-5.com. MB-5 is a conference to deal with the rapid changes that face everyone in the music industry. "It's a futurists' gathering," said Schwartz. "MB-5 will bring together the perspectives of music industry leaders who don't usually find themselves in the same setting artists, managers, producers, technologists, publishers, software and hardware manufacturers, attorneys, investors, educators and Internet entrepreneurs. The premise of MB-5 involves projecting ourselves five years into the future to share visions and predictions of where we will be after what is bound to be the most dynamic five-year period in the history of the music business." Convergence of what were in the past separate industries is the specialty of Kelli Richards, MB-5 Co-producer. Richards, who is today an independent consultant, worked with Apple Computer for more than 10 years, was a member of the A&R staff at EMI Records in Los Angeles, and has been talent coordinator for the BAMMIES for 15 years. Conference sponsors include Ex'pression, Mix magazine, Audio Cafe, Electronic Musician magazine, Launch.com, The Recording Industry Sourcebook, Meyer Sound, SonicNet, NXT, ThingWorld.com and KABA. Registration for the full three days is $995. Single-day passes are available at $295. Download photos and a logo scanned for publication at: www.givememore.com/expression. For more information about Ex'pression, visit: www.xnewmedia.com. For information about the MB-5 conference, visit www.MB-5.com. CONTACT: MCA Public Relations Jack Lyness, 510/304-2411 Lourdes Albu, 800/539-9032 (MB-5 Conf. Coordinator) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:32:47 -0700 From: Tony Rivera Subject: Alloy: Offtopic but... Have to share, as others here may be interested too. One of my other favorites is touring the west coast in October- ABC!! October 16th- Sun Theatre, Anaheim, CA October 17th- Key Club, LA, CA October 18th- Key Club, LA, CA October 21st- The Edge, Palo Alto, CA October 24th- Fenix Underground, Seattle, WA I'll be at the Palo Alto show for sure, and I'm considering driving down to Anaheim too. Sorry, just had to share the excitement Tony >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>{ trivera@tibinc.com }<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< "The Earth can be any shape you want it, Any shape at all Dark and cold or bright and warm, Long or thin or small But it's home and all I ever had, and maybe why for me the Earth is flat" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:43:57 +0100 From: Slarvibarglhee Subject: Re: Alloy: Sea runs dry and the moon leaves its orbit Lem Bingley wrote: > Happy Birthday plus one, Crackers! Hope you managed to celebrate in appropriately restrained style (I bet). > > From the fact that the tide is still high on the Thames, I suspect that the moon has failed to leave its orbit. Can't say for sure as it's a horrid overcast day today. Well, if you WILL live in the metrolopis you must expect that. It's been another loverly day of sunshine and pleasant breezes up here in the north. > > Personally, I'm just relieved we all got through August 27th. I remember reading about Nostradamus when I was about 10 and in the article it said he predicted the world would end Aug 27 1999. I remember thinking "Oh no!" and getting into a real panic. But then I worked out that I'd be 32 in 1999 and said to myself, "Oh, that's okay, I'll have lived my life..." But how do you know it DIDN'T end, and this is all an illusion? It just might be that The Matrix was partially based on fact. And don't forget that the Earth WILL be swallowed up by the sun in a couple of billion years, so now's the time to start planning your exodus to another galaxy or dimension, or both. > Feels slightly different now that I'm here of course. > But where is 'here'? 32? I thought the answer to life, the universe and everything was 42!! Ommmmmmm................ Transendental Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:28:31 +0100 From: Slarvibarglhee Subject: Re: Alloy: Holy Crap! I Almost Forgot! CRACKERS wrote: > I almost forgot that today (apart from being my 34th birthday) is > the day that we all say goodbye to the moon. Many happy returns, old bean, and I hope we eventally get a happy return of the moon as well. > > Let us all take a moment of silence to remember the brave men and > women of Moon Base Alpha who on September 13th, 1999, were thrown > into deep space when an explosion at a nuclear waste dump on the > moons surface, threw the moon out of Earth's orbit. And MacSuirtain said > Isn't it absolutely amazing that the same people who did Fireball XL5 and Captain > Scarlet went on to do stuff like U.F.O. and Space 1999 > Oh, you youngsters. Those of us of advancing years in the UK will remember the very first Jerry/Sylvia Anderson program, which was Supercar. Can any other Alloyites remember this ground breaking show, and if so, there are absolutely no prizes (just a warm feeling of smugness) if you can remember any or all of the characters therein. I have to say that I thought things went downhill fast as soon as they started using REAL ACTORS instead of puppets in their productions. They got far too slick for my liking. > God be with you brave, brave lunar colonists. > > Man, I'd have to turn in my "King Of The Geeks" crown if I forgot > to celebrate a day like this. I think you'll have to battle it out with Barry Morse for that title. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:44:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: Birthday Boy! In article <199909140321_MC2-84C0-444D@compuserve.com>, you wrote: >May this be a year of blessings for you, Chris! Hey, you've already >beat the "Curse of Hyperactive!". It looks like you're well on your >way. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ Yeah, but the more I've been listening to it the more I'm starting to hate it. I think I'll have to redo it. CRACKERS (Stuck in the "fiddle fuck" stage from hell!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:44:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: Holy Crap! I Almost Forgot! In article <37DECC0F.7091BDC9@alloy99.freeserve.co.uk>, you wrote: >CRACKERS wrote: > >> I almost forgot that today (apart from being my 34th birthday) is >> the day that we all say goodbye to the moon. > >Many happy returns, old bean, and I hope we eventally get a happy return >of the moon as well. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ Thanks. Gee, you know, I don't recall how that series ended. Did they ever get back to earth? CRACKERS (Loved those black and white computer monitors from hell!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:44:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: Holy Crap! I Almost Forgot! In article , you wrote: >I used to love that show - I had a crush on Maya (sp?) - not to mention her >morphing powers. COOL ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ I remember getting into fights with friends over which was better, Space 1999 or Star Trek. I likes Space 1999 but I thought Star Trek was better. My friend Scott likes Space 1999 better. Remember the neat Space 1999 toys. I thought their communicators were really cool. It's pretty odd being alive in 1999, all through out my childhood the year 1999 seemed like a made-up year concocted by science fiction writers. I'm really suprised that none of the TV stations (especially SPACE) had a Space 1999 marathon yesterday. And hey, who didn't have a crush on Maya? CRACKERS (Eagle One cleared for landing from hell!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:44:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: Holy Crap! I Almost Forgot! In article , you wrote: >In a message dated 9/13/99 10:14:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >crackers@hwcn.org writes: > >:: I almost forgot that today (apart from being my 34th birthday) is > the day that we all say goodbye to the moon. :: > >Happy Birthday Crackers :) !!! > >To have the moon knocked out of its orbit on your 34th birthday is really >exceptional. I hope you had a big celebration and lots of cake, too. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ Nope, did absolutely nothing for my birthday. I've got a nasty cold so Beena is going to take friday off work and we'll celebrate my birthday then. I wonder if there's a government conspiracy to cover up the fact that the moon is actually no longer in orbit. Maybe that's what they've been doing up there, building a giant holo-projector under the guise of building an international space station. Hmmmmmm... CRACKERS (Being mooned by astronaughts from hell!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:44:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: Holy Crap! I Almost Forgot! In article <37DDB668.AF70DAF8@erols.com>, you wrote: >Happy birthday, Crackers! Many happy returns of the day!!! > >And thank you for making me snort Diet Sprite up my nose. Isn't it >absolutely amazing that the same people who did Fireball XL5 and Captain >Scarlet went on to do stuff like U.F.O. and Space 1999, and, good >heavens - most of them went on to do special effects for Big Uncle >Flannel (aka George Lucas) in Star Wars??? Geniuses, all of 'em. > >I still *LOVE* Captain Scarlet. S.I.G.! ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ Man, I'd just plotz if I could find a copy of the theme song from UFO. I remember as a kid thinking it was the coolest song ever. And that car was pretty cool too. But that's pretty much all I remember from that series. Someone told me that Space 1999 is actually the sequal of UFO and that Moonbase Alpha is actually the secret moonbase in UFO only upgraded. I wonder if you can buy the episodes of UFO on tape? There couldn't have been that many. I wonder if I started a letter-whine campainge if YTV would start showing UFO and Space 1999? They used to show all the Supermarionation shows. I loved Captain Scarlet too. It was even better than Thunderbirds. CRACKERS (Flashbacks from hell!!!!!!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:44:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: Sea runs dry and the moon leaves its orbit In article <199909140223142@lem.zdnetmail.co.uk>, you wrote: >Happy Birthday plus one, Crackers! Hope you managed to celebrate in >appropriately restrained style (I bet). ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ Yep, lying on the couch, drinking cough syrup. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ >From the fact that the tide is still high on the Thames, I suspect that the >moon has failed to leave its orbit. Can't say for sure as it's a horrid >overcast day today. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ Unless there's a cover-up conspiracy. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ >Personally, I'm just relieved we all got through August 27th. I remember >reading about Nostradamus when I was about 10 and in the article it said he >predicted the world would end Aug 27 1999. I remember thinking "Oh no!" and >getting into a real panic. But then I worked out that I'd be 32 in 1999 and >said to myself, "Oh, that's okay, I'll have lived my life..." > >Feels slightly different now that I'm here of course. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ Wern't we supposed to be invaded by martians this year according to Nostradamus? CRACKERS (Buy ye not Betamax from hell!!!!!!!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:57:48 -0500 From: Lee Jackson Subject: Re: Alloy: Sea runs dry and the moon leaves its orbit On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:44:35 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: >>Happy Birthday plus one, Crackers! Hope you managed to celebrate in >>appropriately restrained style (I bet). >~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ > >Yep, lying on the couch, drinking cough syrup. I'd be happy to share some of my meds with you. I've got Lortab and Phenergan from my latest trip to the hospital last week. Fourth time in since December of '98, and the third ERCP (camera-down-the-throat-into-the-bile-duct) procedure since having my gallbladder removed on the first trip. They put a "stent," or a piece of plastic, into my bile duct to keep it from closing off and to try to get it to heal. The down side is the pain and nausea. The up side is the drugs, which can really make everything seem funny if timed right. ;-) // Lee Jackson, Music and Sound Director // Apogee Software, Ltd. / 3D Realms Entertainment // http://www.3drealms.com (company stuff) // http://gameaudio.3dportal.com (non-business stuff) // Home e-mail: jacksonhome@home.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:46:38 -0400 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Sea runs dry and the moon leaves its orbit Lee Jackson wrote: > I'd be happy to share some of my meds with you. I've got Lortab and Phenergan from my latest trip to the hospital last week. Fourth time in since December of '98, and the third ERCP (camera-down-the-throat-into-the-bile-duct) procedure since having my gallbladder removed on the first trip. They put a "stent," or a piece of plastic, into my bile duct to keep it from closing off and to try to get it to heal. Lee, that sounds hideous. I'm so sorry. As someone who has an ulcer jumping up and biting her throat right now, may I say, ah feel yore paeeen (I'm channeling Bill Clinton for you.) Be well. You, too, Crackers. Seven Up and saltines, man, that'll cure whatever ails you. Off to bed. I slept about half of the day today, but I'm still feeling oogy. - - Melissa - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 00:05:26 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: somewhat OT... bass question I wonder if I might ask a question to those of you who know about electric basses. I've seen one today that I've fallen in love with.. it's a gorgeous Fender Jazz five-string bass, used but in excellent condition, from what I can tell, for $350. The information I've found on the internet seems to indicate this is a decent price... the Jazz five string is currently $479.99 if purchased new. Could any Alloy members who know about such things possibly advise me on what to look for when checking the bass over for quality, possible structural damage, etc? (ie cracks which are dangerous & which might devalue the instrument, and so on, as opposed to normal expected wear) What sort of questions should I ask when I'm trying the instrument out? I've never purchased an electric anything before, so any help is very sincerely appreciated. I apologise for the off-topic nature of the question, but you're the most musically knowledgeable group of people I know. I'm head over heels in love with this bass and feel I MUST have it (they'll put it on hold for me for only $70 down) and I'm in that state of mind where I know I'll make a dumb mistake if I don't go into it with the best knowledge I can find. Thanks! Robin T (yearning for the low C!) ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V4 #251 ***************************