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alloy-digest          Saturday, July 31 1999          Volume 04 : Number 210



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Alloy: intro vs bio                                        [RThurF@aol.com]
  Re: Alloy: Explain of the Dress/Thomas Dolby Fan        [DAbbitt32@aol.com]
  Alloy: that dress!       ["Ulfstedt, Louise" <louise.ulfstedt@teleste.com>]
  Alloy: a clarification  ["Stephen M. Tilson" <Stephen_Tilson@compuserve.co]
  Re: Alloy: a clarification                                 [RThurF@aol.com]
  Alloy: Dave's gallery show/update                          [RThurF@aol.com]

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:39:39 EDT
From: RThurF@aol.com
Subject: Alloy: intro vs bio

For everyone's information:

Periodically, and especially after a lot of new members have joined us, a 
round of 'intros' have been suggested by various people so that we could all 
get to know one another better. With my new page & updated Alloy FAQ, it 
seemed like including a new section of short bio's along with the Names to 
Faces gallery would alleviate the need for this repeated introduction cycle. 
My request, therefore, was for interested persons to email me privately with 
whatever information they'd want included next to their picture, and I would 
put it up on the FAQ page for good and all. Many people have followed through 
with this for me very kindly. But sorry to say, Miles seems to have gone so 
far as to insinuate that I am not paying proper attention to the 
technicalities of running Alloy, because I do not have everyone's random past 
introduction immediately at hand..? I demand an explanation Miles, especially 
in light of the fact that you know very well how hard I've been working to 
keep this list together. You have no right to accuse me of negligence toward 
this list. 

Robin T
tired of it

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 02:27:00 EDT
From: DAbbitt32@aol.com
Subject: Re: Alloy: Explain of the Dress/Thomas Dolby Fan

Teresa.Adams@mic.com "Jamac's Lady" writes :

<snip>

<< Thomas is a great musician and it's so nice to hear that he
  has so many great fans. By the way I've learned alot more about Thomas than
  ever before by reading your archives. >>

Well thanks for that compliment Teresa, and may I say I've learned alot more 
about dresses and dress fabrics than ever before by reading yours.

<snicker>
- -Dabbitt

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:49:44 +0300
From: "Ulfstedt, Louise" <louise.ulfstedt@teleste.com>
Subject: Alloy: that dress!

Hi Teresa!

Just wanted to drop you a line to say thank you for writing to us at
Alloy,...and that you really looked beautiful in those pictures! I wish
you and Jamac all the best for a wonderful future together!
 
Take Care!

lissu :-)

P.S. tried to mail this directly to terese, but it didn't work.

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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 21:56:33 -0400
From: "Stephen M. Tilson" <Stephen_Tilson@compuserve.com>
Subject: Alloy: a clarification

Oh, Jeez.  Whoa!  Hold everything!

You have mistaken the intent of my words.  Grant me a moment, and 
your patience, that I might attempt to shed some light on this 
misunderstanding.  The short version is: I wasn't addressing you, and 
the two sentences to which I imagine you are reacting (quoted below) 
are about *my* shortcomings as a member of this group and have 
absolutely nothing to do with the way Alloy is run, you, or any other 
person besides myself.

If that doesn't cover it for you, then read on.  But first I'd like 
to caution my reader:  The balance of this message could become a bit 
tedious.  If you've heard enough already, I beg you skip to your next 
message.

*********************************************************************

Now for the long version.

In discussion of the recent Alloy get-together in St. Louis, 
E(lipse countered a well-deserved compliment I previously paid her 
with:

 > *smile*  Of course, we all know that the real danger was from 
 > /\/\iles brandishing his wit around... Europa was safe, as her 
 > own is at least as sharp and she seems to know how to use it when 
 > she needs to, but the rest of us were taken by surprise...

I replied:

 > Well, so much for expecting that folks might get a sense of who I 
 > am through my emails alone.  I guess I'll post a bio, as oft 
 > requested and summarily ignored, one day soon.

Which means: (Sentence 1) I am disappointed that *I* have failed to 
communicate a comprehensive image of myself through my everyday 
contacts with Alloy.  This has long been a goal of mine within 
the group; my "Plan A" in lieu of a potentially tedious introductory 
biography.  Here, in sentence 1, I'm acknowledging my failure to 
reach that goal.  (Perhaps I should have added a winky-smiley 
emoticon at this point (end of sentence 1), but since I was speaking 
directly to E(lipse and alluding to something we had previously 
discussed, biographies and the need for them, I didn't feel it was 
necessary.)  Then (in Sentence 2) I reluctantly relent of Plan A 
saying, "I guess I'll post a bio", guiltily followed with "as oft 
requested" (by many folks on the list in all those waves of `intros' 
that have come and gone over the 2-1/4 years I've been on this list), 
followed in all candor with "and summarily ignored" (by ME!  Not you, 
or anyone else.  I've never posted a bio or intro or resume or 
anything like it to the list.  Instead I've systematically ignored 
every request that we do so in the past, wishing instead that Alloy 
get to know me by word and deed (See sentence 1)), ending with "one 
day soon." and this, I refuse to explain . . . <g>

OK?

/\/\iles

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 00:15:05 EDT
From: RThurF@aol.com
Subject: Re: Alloy: a clarification

In a message dated 7/30/99 9:59:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
Stephen_Tilson@compuserve.com writes:

:: You have mistaken the intent of my words.  Grant me a moment, and 
 your patience, that I might attempt to shed some light on this 
 misunderstanding.  The short version is: I wasn't addressing you, and 
 the two sentences to which I imagine you are reacting (quoted below) 
 are about *my* shortcomings as a member of this group and have 
 absolutely nothing to do with the way Alloy is run, you, or any other 
 person besides myself. ::

Perfectly understood, and thanks for taking the time to clarify. My request 
for bio's for my page was greeted with contempt from certain factions at the 
time I made it, which led me to misunderstand your statement. Given our past 
conflicts & the fact that you are aware of how hard I have worked to keep 
this list whole over the years, you can surely see why a flippant 
(misunderstood) comment/criticism from you about my maintenance of Alloy 
would've pissed me off. 

But I have to say, speaking my mind about such things from now on will be a 
lot better than biting my tongue. As regards peace, this list has provided a 
useful bit of education for me. One person cannot make everything right for 
everyone & is foolish to try.

Robin T

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 00:30:10 EDT
From: RThurF@aol.com
Subject: Alloy: Dave's gallery show/update

Just to let interested parties know: 
The DeLann Gallery in Princeton NJ has just chosen which ten of Dave's 
paintings they want for their August-November exhibition. All that's left is 
for us to frame them (we'll be pinching pennies - it's expensive & we're 
broke) and drive them down to the gallery. The show will run August 23 til 
November 8. The opening reception will be on Friday August 27th from 6-8pm.. 
though we won't be able to afford to go to it :) LOL!! the silly life artists 
must lead!

Robin T
powered by Faith and the Muse
'and laugh - but smile no more'
(no context intended)

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