From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V4 #186 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Sunday, July 4 1999 Volume 04 : Number 186 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Dolby's collaboration with Joni Mitchell [dalexander@juno.com] Alloy: Mystery song [dalexander@juno.com] Re: Alloy: Mystery song [Robyn Moore ] Alloy: The Lathe of Heaven (OT) ["Stephen M. Tilson" I don't know very much about Joni Mitchell's work and can't really comment on it.. I don't know a lot about her but I have and love quite a few of her works. I quite like her sound and smarts. ___________ JAMac (Dennis S. Alexander) www.dennisa.com - Nutrition/Income Opportunities "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams" - Eleanor Roosevelt ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 23:03:05 -0600 From: dalexander@juno.com Subject: Alloy: Mystery song Hi'yall. Still here. I've got a few-hundred Alloy digests in my inbox that I would love to read but doubt I will ever get to them. Got a great new 'permanent' job at the pay I've been shooting for for a couple of years doing exactly what I've been trying to get into, Systems Admin! Goodby PC Tech contracting! Whoo hoo! Robin wrote, >I know what it's like having a long-term mystery such as this. When I was a child I heard this amazing thing as background music on TV and they never said what it was.. it took me about 15 years to finally hear it again, and have it named to me (Rachmaninov's variation on a theme by Paganini) Now I just have to find who did that particular version I heard - - which was very unusual. It was like a jazz version (???) The same for me, except is was a movie. Maybe someone here can help. It centered around a man who could control the world (or reality, for that matter) with his dreams. There was a psychologist who attempted to control his dreams or at least assist him in dreaming the correct things. There was also a black woman who was a reporter whom the man fell in love with. The three ended up being the only humans alive (at least from the original world) after a particularly awry dream. Then there was the alien attack on the restored human civilation, turned the aliens into slaves, all in the same dream. The ending was a mix of like 60's nostalgia and 70's-80's sci-fi. I believe it was called "The Nymph of God" but have never been able to find that title, nor does it seem to match the movie. Further she wrote... >so as a surprise I spent the morning looking alll over town for a good diabetic dessert cookbook (not the kind that calls for artificial sweeteners, but uses the real stuff in moderation) so that I could make something we could share. I did find an excellent one & ran home to make a chocolate cake before visiting hours were over. Try stevia. It's an herb in the health food stores that is very healthy for you, not bad for you in any way and is very sweet. Perfect for diabetics. >And later, all night long, I kept having horrendous nightmare after nightmare where I'd think I'd woken up, but I was still in the dream, and it was all really vivid and horrible, with me being scared by something and asking Dave for help, and him doing something freakishly monstrous and unearthly in response. . . . a big cup of nice hot tea, and reassured me very sweetly that I probably hadn't been accidentally poisoned. Poor Dave! The description 'All-nighter' tells me where the nightmares came from. I've had the same experience. >You obviously never watched the Christopher Reeve/Jane Seymour film, "Somewhere In Time." :) One of the all-time best love stories! Have the video, CD and sheet music! >Song : Promise >Artist: Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark >Album : Organisation You guys are hitting all my favorites! ___________ JAMac (Dennis S. Alexander) www.dennisa.com - Nutrition/Income Opportunities "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams" - Eleanor Roosevelt ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 22:52:22 -0700 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Re: Alloy: Mystery song At 10:03 PM 7/2/99 , you wrote: >The same for me, except is was a movie. Maybe someone here can help. > >It centered around a man who could control the world (or reality, for >that matter) with his dreams. There was a psychologist who attempted to >control his dreams or at least assist him in dreaming the correct things. > There was also a black woman who was a reporter whom the man fell in >love with. The three ended up being the only humans alive (at least from >the original world) after a particularly awry dream. Then there was the >alien attack on the restored human civilation, turned the aliens into >slaves, all in the same dream. The ending was a mix of like 60's >nostalgia and 70's-80's sci-fi. I believe it was called "The Nymph of >God" but have never been able to find that title, nor does it seem to >match the movie. I've got this one for ya - It's "The Lathe of Heaven", based on a story by Ursula LeGuin, and shown on public television in the late 70's or early 80's. Unfortunately, due to some sort of issue involving rights, it's not available for viewing on television or videotape. More's the pity - I'd like to see it again too. However, the possibility exists that things will be sorted out eventually, because there's a high demand for it. There is a listing for it at www.imdb.com if you want to double-check and make sure this is the right one. Robyn M @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.alveus.com/kbrm/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 04:18:03 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: The Lathe of Heaven (OT) Robyn correctly recalls: > I've got this one for ya - It's "The Lathe of Heaven", based on a > story by Ursula LeGuin, and shown on public television in the > late 70's or early 80's. Unfortunately, due to some sort of issue > involving rights, it's not available for viewing on television or > videotape. Fantastic! You know quite a bit about it, Robyn. Herewith I add the results of my own research into the matter: The film is owned by the Los Angeles PBS station. It *is* (or was, as of a few years ago) available for private showings for fund raising purposes, but the producer retains some rights to the material and will not allow it to be publicly broadcast for undisclosed reasons. Wanna raise some funds . . . ? /\/\iles - who is reflecting on the similarities of GeorGeorr and JarJar . . . ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 12:33:31 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: very strange Dolby dream..! In a dream I had last night, Thomas asked George Clinton to look after his house while he was away. In doing so, George inadvertantly found that Thomas was also a sculptor, and had been making all of these strange, detailed, intricately balanced kinetic mobile-type metal & mixed-media sculptures - in varying sizes, some of them quite large - which were suspended from the ceiling in one of the rooms of the house (this room was particularly lovely and serene, with a lot of white light, and a huge window overlooking the sea). George inquired about them when Thomas got back - but Thomas acted really cool about it and just said the sculptures had to stay in that room. It was very strange! I wish you could have seen these sculptures, they were amazing. Perhaps i should try making one similar, so you can see! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 15:49:31 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: very strange Dolby dream..! This sounds very much like the work of Alexander Calder. Are you familiar with his work? /\/\ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 16:03:02 -0400 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: The Lathe of Heaven (OT) [reposted] [I posted this late last night, but when it arrived back from Smoe in our (Mary and I) Compuserve mailboxes it was garbled to the point that none of our email readers could retrieve the message, and it was preventing us from retrieving our other waiting messages. Could be Compuserve, Smoe, or any little microchip in the path. Anyway, I hope the original didn't cause you any troubles. ---Stephen] Robyn correctly recalls: > I've got this one for ya - It's "The Lathe of Heaven", based on a > story by Ursula LeGuin, and shown on public television in the > late 70's or early 80's. Unfortunately, due to some sort of issue > involving rights, it's not available for viewing on television or > videotape. Fantastic! You know quite a bit about it, Robyn. Herewith I add the results of my own research into the matter: The film is owned by the Los Angeles PBS station. It *is* (or was, as of a few years ago) available for private showings for fund raising purposes, but the producer retains some rights to the material and will not allow it to be publicly broadcast for undisclosed reasons. Wanna raise some funds . . . ? /\/\iles - who is reflecting on the similarities of GeorGeorr and JarJar . . . ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 21:50:44 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: very strange Dolby dream..! Calder's mobiles would be incredibly simple compared to the ones Dolby had created in my dream. Thomas' were like whole worlds unto themselves! The different segments rotated, spun, revolved etc in amongst one another very fluidly, and were in perpetual motion - each piece seeming to work off the power of the one next to it. The components of each sculpture were incredibly intricate. Some seemed to represent planetary motion. One vast piece had a perfectly detailed tiny figure of a man who seemed to be hang gliding within the movement of the sculpture, and was dressed in a replica of WWII pilot outfit, complete with silk scarf and tiny goggles (even though this perfect little figure was only the size of someone's thumb!). Some of these sculptured were large enough to be entered, and an observer could walk around inside it with various parts of the sculpture spinning and diving all around at different angles. They were breathtaking. No wonder George Clinton was so impressed! It would be really cool to try making something like one of these sculptures. Maybe they represent the way I feel about music construction? (right now it's the only interpretation I can think of!) Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 23:20:14 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: VS ? Dave and I just finished watching the 'Housewives vs Fetish Models' episode of the Comedy Central show called 'VS'. At the end, the next episode was announced as (I believe!) featuring the two warring families from Dynasty... If I did hear correctly, I wonder if by any chance Ms Beller might be one of the contestants on the Colby side? I think it will air on Thursday at 5pm est (not sure, because I've never seen this show before tonight..) Robin T ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V4 #186 ***************************