From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V4 #119 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Wednesday, April 21 1999 Volume 04 : Number 119 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Alloy: Congratulations Kate!! ["Ulfstedt, Louise" ] Alloy: DLL's (on topic) ["Keith Stansell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:38:19 +0300 From: "Ulfstedt, Louise" Subject: RE: Alloy: Congratulations Kate!! I have to say this made me smile,...! One thing I wouldn't recommend, though, is having two weddings,...having two weddings made sure we had twice as many cock-ups! Amongst other cock-ups, in our british wedding, the "hairdresser", who was supposed to be a professional, turned up late, and started to pile up my hair (which is very long) into some kind of bird's nest. She took an hour more than she was supposed to, leaving me 15 minutes to dress, slap on some make up, and get to the church. Unfortunately, when I finally got to see what she's done with my hair, I could have wept. She can't have been professional at all, as the resulting monstrosity was like a huge piled up heap of cow you-know-what, half of which was in my eyes, and the other half of which leaned more than the tower of Pisa. I tried my best to pull it out and flatten it a bit, but it didn't help much. it still bugs me that the bridesmaids looked far nicer au naturelle than I did, but fortunately, I had wedding-take-two in Finland to compensate, and a good stylist there. Hell, I think a girl has a right to look good on her wedding day at least! The other, more amusing thing included the pianist in the church. He started to play as we got into the church. Problem was, it was a small church, it took us twenty seconds from one end of the aisle to the other, but this guy had a five minute long piece to play, and decided he was going to play it in full. After some minutes, you can clearly see my mother popping up and making a violent cut-throat sign on the wedding video (snark!). Then there was the case of the friend of the family, who wasn't thinking what he was doing with the video camera, and hence took a four-minute shot looking down my cleavage as we posed for the signing of the registers,.....(No Comment.) The only other major cock up was my husband's fault,...a couple of days before the UK wedding, he went on his stag night,...and came back with a long cut and several stiches in his chin. And of course, I went ape, (he'd got it on his "gay-aerobics" stint in town, trying to do press-ups with claps in between!)...talk about the bride of frankenstein,...but I had to laugh when he ended up wearing make up for the weddings to cover it up (HAH HAH!) I suppose cock-ups are a natural part of every wedding,...maybe surviving those is the actual right-of-passage thing, rather than the ceremony itself! Glad you had fun, Kate,...and I hope you have a great time on your honeymoon later this year! Lissu :-) > -----Original Message----- > From: Kathleen Truelove [SMTP:Kathleen.McClelland@online.disney.com] > Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 7:46 PM > To: alloy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Alloy: Congratulations Kate!! > > > Beth, > Well, for one thing my wedding ring got misplaced before the ceremony > somehow. > Needless to say, this caused quite a stir. My husband would not have any > other > ring to go on my finger. The ring just could not be found. He finally > consented > to his grandmother's ring which luckily fit my ring finger nicely. That > was > truly something borrowed to complete the tradition of something borrowed, > something new and something blue. It was such a fiasco!! We were supposed > to > take pictures at 4:30pm. Ended up taking them around 5:30. The wedding was > supposed to start at 6:30. Ended starting at around 7:00. The help we > ordered > didn't always know what to do. My sister-in-law ended taking charge of the > hired > help. At least the ceremony itself was very good. Made all the craziness > worth > it! > > Pax Aye, > Kate;-) > > Beth Meyer wrote: > > > Hi, folks; > > > > Indeed, best wishes and all happiness to you, Kate, in your marriage! > > > > Of course, what we will really want to know, once you return from your > > honeymoon, is what funny thing went wrong in the ceremony. Every > wedding > > has to have at least one funny faux pas. Ours had at least two. The > first > > was when we made the mistake of having the ushers lighting the candles > as > > part of the ceremony at the very beginning (rather than getting them lit > > ahead of time), while my brother-in-law played a trumpet voluntary. The > > problem was, the candles wouldn't stay lit, so the ushers were fumbling > > around for what seemed like *forever*. The rest of us are all in the > back > > of the church saying, "what the sam hill is going ON up there," while my > > poor brother-in-law, whose lip was busted up in a car accident a year or > two > > before, is starting to miss notes. It was starting to sound like a > trumpet > > involuntary by the time they finally finished and the ceremony could > > proceed. > > > > However, the funniest moment was the cake-cutting. Mark had not > insisted on > > too many things about the ceremony, but he had insisted on a fountain in > the > > cake. That was just something he always wanted. So there was this big > cake > > with a fountain, along with a little round cake beside it. It just so > > happened that the caterer was out of the room when we decided it was > time to > > cut the cake. So we pose for the camera with the knife on top of the > big > > round layer at the bottom of the big cake. After the photos are > snapped, we > > push the knife through. We feel this hard, brittle texture and hear a > > crunching sound. We keep slicing all the way through, wondering what > kind > > of wedding cake is *crunchy*. Just then, the caterer comes running in > from > > the kitchen shouting, "No!" Turns out that the little round cake was > what > > we were supposed to cut, and we were actually slicing through a > styrofoam > > base that lent sturdiness to the cake with the fountain. So, in our > wedding > > album, there are pictures of us cutting the cake twice... > > > > Cheers, > > Beth > > > > Beth Meyer > > bethmeyer@mindspring.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:55:37 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Lissu's wedding stories! God, Lissu, your wedding stories are hilarious! You should write professionally with that skill of yours for conveying the true absurdity of the moment so poetically! Robin T Lissu wrote: :: Amongst other cock-ups, in our british wedding, the "hairdresser", who was supposed to be a professional, turned up late, and started to pile up my hair (which is very long) into some kind of bird's nest. She took an hour more than she was supposed to, leaving me 15 minutes to dress, slap on some make up, and get to the church. Unfortunately, when I finally got to see what she's done with my hair, I could have wept. She can't have been professional at all, as the resulting monstrosity was like a huge piled up heap of cow you-know-what, half of which was in my eyes, and the other half of which leaned more than the tower of Pisa. I tried my best to pull it out and flatten it a bit, but it didn't help much. it still bugs me that the bridesmaids looked far nicer au naturelle than I did, but fortunately, I had wedding-take-two in Finland to compensate, and a good stylist there. Hell, I think a girl has a right to look good on her wedding day at least! The other, more amusing thing included the pianist in the church. He started to play as we got into the church. Problem was, it was a small church, it took us twenty seconds from one end of the aisle to the other, but this guy had a five minute long piece to play, and decided he was going to play it in full. After some minutes, you can clearly see my mother popping up and making a violent cut-throat sign on the wedding video (snark!). Then there was the case of the friend of the family, who wasn't thinking what he was doing with the video camera, and hence took a four-minute shot looking down my cleavage as we posed for the signing of the registers,.....(No Comment.) The only other major cock up was my husband's fault,...a couple of days before the UK wedding, he went on his stag night,...and came back with a long cut and several stiches in his chin. And of course, I went ape, (he'd got it on his "gay-aerobics" stint in town, trying to do press-ups with claps in between!)...talk about the bride of frankenstein,...but I had to laugh when he ended up wearing make up for the weddings to cover it up (HAH HAH!) I suppose cock-ups are a natural part of every wedding,...maybe surviving those is the actual right-of-passage thing, rather than the ceremony itself! :: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:49:57 -0600 From: dalexander@juno.com Subject: Alloy: Thomas was at my engagement I keep forgetting to mention it but... When I proposed to Teresa on the Golden Gate, I was wearing my Alloy shirt as I was meeting Stephen and Mary for dinner shortly thereafter! I know, pure coincidence. But it's kinda cool! BTW... I did find a place to live. Got a roommate who is a Federal Investigator. I asked him if he would be bringing any work home (y'know, bad guys with guns and such, like you see in movies). He just laughed. He's got a really nice place that he may be selling in 6 months or so. Hmmm.... a home... Now I just gotta find a job! Came close, twice... ___________ JAMac (Dennis S. Alexander) www.dennisa.com - Nutrition/Income Opportunities "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams" - Eleanor Roosevelt ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:20:37 -0600 From: dalexander@juno.com Subject: Alloy: Ahhh... Weddings. >We do plan on going on a two week honeymoon in Scotland later this year. And Jerusalem too? I noticed you had a Rabbi there so I would assume your hubbie is Jewish. Most certainly you would visit the Holy Land as well! But I do have to say, Its hard for me to imagine a Druid Priest and a Rabbi at the same wedding. >To be honest, I'm not sure I'd want to sunbathe on a tropical beach. I'd rather visit my ancestoral lands in Scotland then in America. Aye! I agree! (being ultra-white myself. That's why my fiance is black!) >Congrats to Kate and your new husband. (...Mark) Er, no one seems to know your husbands name. What would his name be? ___________ JAMac (Dennis S. Alexander) www.dennisa.com - Nutrition/Income Opportunities "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams" - Eleanor Roosevelt ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:03:28 -0600 From: dalexander@juno.com Subject: Alloy: Matrix (off-topic) Robin wrote... >we went to see The Matrix last night & Dave and I both absolutely loved it! All of the actors were fantastic and dealt with the athletic aspects of the film very heroically. I was really impressed at the amount of work that went into it on everyone's part. Has anyone else seen it? I thought it would appeal to many of us here because of the story's relation to computer logic and gaming. I hope they release a 'making of' the Matrix.. I'd love to know how some of the visual effects were done! I was discussing it with Beth, Eric and Keith at a recent get-together and no one seemed to be too excited about it, considering how plastic and thin Keanu's acting can be. But I agree! I thought the movie was awesome! (Of course, CRACKERS and I had a debate about the movie Hackers along similar veigns). Even Keanu was at his best. The way the movie melded computer science and action and everything, it was so cool! ___________ JAMac (Dennis S. Alexander) www.dennisa.com - Nutrition/Income Opportunities "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams" - Eleanor Roosevelt ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:38:33 -0700 From: Kathleen Truelove Subject: Re: Alloy: Ahhh... Weddings. My husband's name is Ronald Presser. I'll even describe him to you. He's about 5ft 5, has very fair skin, curly strawberry blonde hair that is long in the back and sky blue eyes. He has often reminded me of either an eagle or a dragon. He has almost elvish features and has a lot wit about him. There, that's my wonderful husband. Pax Aye, Kate;-) dalexander@juno.com wrote: > >We do plan on going on a two week honeymoon in Scotland later this year. > > And Jerusalem too? I noticed you had a Rabbi there so I would assume > your hubbie is Jewish. Most certainly you would visit the Holy Land as > well! > > But I do have to say, Its hard for me to imagine a Druid Priest and a > Rabbi at the same wedding. > > >To be honest, I'm not sure I'd want to sunbathe on a tropical beach. I'd > rather visit my ancestoral lands in Scotland then in America. > > Aye! I agree! (being ultra-white myself. That's why my fiance is > black!) > > >Congrats to Kate and your new husband. (...Mark) > > Er, no one seems to know your husbands name. What would his name be? > > ___________ > JAMac (Dennis S. Alexander) > www.dennisa.com - Nutrition/Income Opportunities > "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams" - > Eleanor Roosevelt > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:01:37 -0700 From: "Jennie Bolton" Subject: Alloy: Re: Matrix (off-topic) Dennis wrote: >But I agree! I thought the movie was awesome! (Of course, CRACKERS and >I had a debate about the movie Hackers along similar veigns). Even Keanu >was at his best. The way the movie melded computer science and action >and everything, it was so cool! I enjoyed it too...probably a little too much (did I mention that Keanu Reeves isn't at all hard to look at? ;-) ) I have found his acting rather stiff in the past as well, but he was good in this. I think maybe he just tries too hard, and he comes off sounding dumb when there is a lot of dialog. Kind of a shame, because he obviously isn't stupid, he does a lot of reading. And he likes Wire! (On a related topic, anyone ever heard Dogstar? Are they any good? What do they sound like?) Back to the movie....neat effects; the story line was also interesting, and disturbing. Was anyone reminded at all of 'Dark City' with a more sinister edge? The lobby scene was incredibly well done (bear in mind that the film was produced by Joel Silver, king of 'blow 'em up' movies), very exciting. It was kinda funny to watch the audience's reaction to the crowd in the nightclub scene. It looked like clubs I go to (a little more crowded and better lit), but I could tell that others thought it was a freak show. ;-) Also, I found it really interesting that the machines mostly looked like insects or arachnids or things from the sea - very Lovecraftian! (Hey, I made up a new word!) Even the hokier bits, which unfortunately reminded me of "The Fifth Element", worked in this film. Often what makes a great film is how it incorporates novel twists into this language of film that we all know, and 'The Matrix' did a great job of it. And the visual look was very, very slick. I loved the costumes, and I want to learn that Kung-Fu thing where they run up the walls and do a flip. Very cool :-). Someone earlier mentioned 'Pi'. I tried really hard to like it, really, I did. Mathematically, I found it to be a bit of a stretch. Even if they did have some fun with Fibonacci sequences, they didn't really describe, as far as I can see, why they would be interesting - I have enough background in math so that I have an appreciation for them, but I don't know if they made this clear for someone who had never heard of them before. Really, the film seemed to be more about obsession, of various kinds (with numbers/patterns, money/power, religion/mysticism), and from that aspect I just didn't think it was very interesting. About 2/3 of the way through I found myself getting very fidgety. But, hey, there are tons of films that I like that everyone else kinda wonders about. Like 'Zero Effect', for example. :-) Hey, have a great day everyone - it's finally spring here in Seattle. Jen (:^ P.S. And let's all pray for peace in the Balkans, because that's more important than what movies we like anyway. And for the people in Colorado (news on this horrible shooting just coming in). ____________________________________________________ Jennie Bolton, Research Chemist Northwest Fisheries Science Center · Vice-Chair, Pionus Breeders Association ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:53:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Keith Dawe Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: Matrix (off-topic) > Often what makes a great film > is how it incorporates novel twists into this language of film that we all > know, and 'The Matrix' did a great job of it. And the visual look was very, > very slick. I loved the costumes, and I want to learn that Kung-Fu thing > where they run up the walls and do a flip. Very cool :-). Crackers is probably aware this too, how this movie was influenced by anime (Japanese animation) for a lot of those neat directorial tricks, such as the slowmotion action and the frozen-subject-while-camera-moves around (sorry, don't have a name for this). The creators have actually admitted to this. I've watched much anime and it was pretty cool to see the same techniques used in a live-action film (an American film, for that matter)! Even if this movie doesn't amount to anything, I'm sure it will be considered a major influence on movies to come, and that I'm looking forward to. Hey, even my mother loved The Matrix! :) - --omega ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:13:22 EDT From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Matrix (off-topic) In a message dated 4/20/99 4:23:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dalexander@juno.com writes: :: I was discussing it with Beth, Eric and Keith at a recent get-together and no one seemed to be too excited about it, considering how plastic and thin Keanu's acting can be. :: I don't agree, I think sometimes he is poorly directed... but I've always really liked his acting & admire him for choosing unusual roles. Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:05:58 -0600 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Re: Alloy: Matrix (off-topic) Ok Ok , To be fair, I have not seen the film as of yet and some initial reviews that I read were not positive, hence my apprehension. I've just seen to many big effects movies that are boring lately and I'm a bit apprehensive of any new film that boast incredible effects. However, I have been hearing lots of good word-of-mouth about the movie and I do think I will go see it sometime this week. - -Keith (still not over Godzilla and Lost in Space from last summer) Stansell - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 7:13 PM Subject: Re: Alloy: Matrix (off-topic) > > In a message dated 4/20/99 4:23:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > dalexander@juno.com writes: > > :: I was discussing it with Beth, Eric and Keith at a recent get-together > and no one seemed to be too excited about it, considering how plastic and > thin Keanu's acting can be. :: > > I don't agree, I think sometimes he is poorly directed... but I've always > really liked his acting & admire him for choosing unusual roles. > > Robin T > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:11:07 -0600 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Alloy: DLL's (on topic) Yesterday at work I overhear two network guys talking. The line I overhead was "one of the DLL's is missing." The Windows users out there will know what I'm talking about. So for the rest of the morning, I had in my head : One of our DLL's is missing tonight, Seem it was deleted on uninstall. One of our DLL's..... So, is it time for a parady round? - -Keith Stansell Denver ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V4 #119 ***************************