From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V4 #98 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Tuesday, March 30 1999 Volume 04 : Number 098 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: The guys down at the pub. [Tim_Dunn.JBA_HEATHROW.SPL_EXTERNAL@] Re: Alloy: Sometimes being a musician can be a drag [Kathleen Truelove ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 08:22:15 +0000 From: Tim_Dunn.JBA_HEATHROW.SPL_EXTERNAL@jba.co.uk Subject: Re: Alloy: The guys down at the pub. http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/pub1.jpg >> <> Fine by me - I have it up as the wallpaper on my big new monitor at work! t_c ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:23:12 -0800 From: Kathleen Truelove Subject: Re: Alloy: Sometimes being a musician can be a drag Just to let everyone know, I had an awesome Bachelorette party Saturday. Was in very, very rare form. Painting the town red!!!!!!;-) I know this is off the topic, but I had to share it. Every bride should enjoy a wild, wild night out with the girls! Why not?? Guys know how to have a great time, why not us ladies. That's all for now folks, Kate;-) Chris Cracknell wrote: > Well I had two big shows last night with "I Love My Shih'Tzu". The first > show was a benefit for "Hamilton Artist's Inc." It was their annual > "Class & Trash" show where the dress code is as the name. > > For my touch of class I wore my tuxedo jacket with a mandarin collared > shirt. For my touch of trash I wore a feather boa, short black mini-skirt > trimmed with saftey-pins, and black nylons. I guess I kind of looked like > James Bond at a "Pride Day" parade. I got the skirt at the goodwill, it was > the only one the looked like it would fit me. Unfortunately it was a below > the knees skirt so I had to hem it myself. Naturally I hemmed my skirt the > way a man would hem his skirt... I used a glue gun. Of course being new to > skirt hemming I made a slight miscalculation. I wanted it to be short so I > made measurements and cut and hemmed. What I failed to realize is that the > skirt doen't hang as low when you wear it as it is lying flat. So I had > unintentionally made myself more trashy than I intended. My second lesson > of the night came at the gig when I was carrying a speaker cabinet over > my head up a steep flight of stairs. When you life both arms above your > head while wearing a short skirt, the skirt comes up too. A couple of > girls going up the stairs behind me couldn't help but comment on this > fact. My third lesson of the night was: Pantyhose are uncomfortable. > Wearing them is an odd sensation, you sweat, yet your legs are cold. > And if you're wearing shoes your feet sweat like crazy! > > I was definetly the belle of the ball at this show, everyone with a camera > wanted a picture of me and some of the women really liked my skirt (trimmed > with paperclips and safety pins). Video cameras were everywhere to catch our > performance and now I know if Shih'Tzu ever does become big every documentary > on our pre-fame days will feature some amature video footage of me in a skirt. > > Our second show of the night was at a bar called "The Corktown". Naturally > I got changed before this show since I wanted to come back home tonight > with all my teeth (the Corktown is no place for a guy in a skirt). Were > are second gig at LaLuna or some bar in Hess Village I might have stayed > in my costume for a laugh but not at the Corktown (where a musician was > stabbed to death between sets a few years ago by a customer who was less > than appreciative of his performance). But they love Shih'Tzu at the > Corktown and that show went off without a hitch (except that we had no > monitors and I couldn't hear my own accordion). I'm going to make a > modification to my amp before our next show so I can throw a switch > to allow the main speaker to sound even with something plugged in the > headphone jack. Then I'll just use a wee earpiece to monitor myself. > (the sound at the "Class & Trash" was really good). > > So I guess now Thomas isn't the only musician here to have done a show > in drag (or at least half drag). I will, no doubt, be receiving photos > of my costume in my E-mail any day now (and if not Beena took some pics > of me before I left the house). So I'll post them on my webpage for your > amusement. > > So Thomas, if I share my pictures of me performing in drag with you will > you send me your pictures of you playing in drag with the Lost Toy People? ;) > > CRACKERS > (Just a sweet transvestite from hell!!!!!!) > > -- > > Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan > * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * > * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * > Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:35:24 -0800 From: "Jennie Bolton" Subject: Alloy: Re: Gargoyles in Pubs and Not in Cairo >BTW, Europa is the source of all knowledge about TMDR's slightly more humble birthplace. I think it might have been Guildford, rather than Cairo. Personally I quite admire the man for just making stuff up like that. I was born in a place called The Shrubbery, Basingstoke, and if I were going to be famous I think I'd change it to the Palm House at Kew. Come on, man! Basingstoke was immortalized by Robyn Hitchcock! ("I Often Dream of Trains"). How much cooler than that could you get?! Toodles, Jennie (:^ ____________________________________________________ Jennie Bolton, Research Chemist Northwest Fisheries Science Center · Vice-Chair, Pionus Breeders Association ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:42:18 -0800 From: "Jennie Bolton" Subject: Alloy: Re: Sometimes being a musician can be a drag Crackers writes - >So I guess now Thomas isn't the only musician here to have done a show > in drag Um, excuse me for sounding really dumb, but could you elaborate on this? I had no idea that Thomas has done this...where and when? What did he wear? Details, details, for those of us who are obviously depraved (oops! I *meant* deprived). ;-) Jen (:^ ____________________________________________________ Jennie Bolton, Research Chemist Northwest Fisheries Science Center · Vice-Chair, Pionus Breeders Association ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 13:48:14 EST From: TBlagg@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Urgent...Muluuuuuuu! Dolby Connection! To those of you who have access to Channel 4 in the U.K. A programme about Mulu the Rain Forest is about to begin (8pm) on the above channel. Sorry for the short notice, I've only just spotted in the paper! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:03:03 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: Gargoyles in Pubs and Not in Cairo In article <1289422155-244337116@ooze.nwfsc.noaa.gov>, you wrote: >BTW, Europa is the source of all knowledge about TMDR's slightly more >humble birthplace. I think it might have been Guildford, rather than Cairo. >Personally I quite admire the man for just making stuff up like that. I was >born in a place called The Shrubbery, Basingstoke, and if I were going to be >famous I think I'd change it to the Palm House at Kew. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Well I was born in the humble city of Pembroke, Ontario, in the heart of the Ottawa Valley (eh). But I was conceived in the back seat of a '56 Chevy Belle-air Hard Top that was parked beside a stone railway overpass near the marina. My dad showed me the exact spot the car was parked during my conception. It was also considered giving me the name "Houdini" since you could say I was the cat that got out of the bag. I have a defective or improperly used condom to thank for my existance. Infact of all three of my birth siblings, only my brother (the middle child) was a planned pregnancy. CRACKERS (Pop went the weasel from hell!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:03:02 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: Sometimes being a musician can be a drag In article <1289421741-244361990@ooze.nwfsc.noaa.gov>, you wrote: >Crackers writes - > >>So I guess now Thomas isn't the only musician here to have done a show >> in drag > >Um, excuse me for sounding really dumb, but could you elaborate on this? I >had no idea that Thomas has done this...where and when? What did he wear? >Details, details, for those of us who are obviously depraved (oops! I >*meant* deprived). ;-) ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ It was way back when he was about to do his first live show at a small LA club with the Lost Toy People. He didn't want anyone to know that *HE* was playing but somehow the media got ahold of the story that Thomas Dolby was playing a gig at this club so the place was swamped. To mess with everyone's heads at the last second he decided to don a dress and do the show in drag as a "bored, blond Beverly Hills housewife turned techno-rocker". Thus the legend of Thomas's concert in drag was born. I know there HAVE to be pictures of him in drag at this show in existance. I've never done a single show ever where some friend or annonymous audience member hasn't brought a camera (video or 35mm) to capture the evening's photons for prosperity. Thus my desperate appeal for anyone who has pictures of Thomas in drag to scan them and E-mail me a copy. Please! We were going to have a "Thomas In Drag Contest" on the original Tap Room but the Tap Room was mysteriously terminated before the contest could get underway. We only had one entry and I have unfortunately lost the picture. It was, I believe, a picture of Thomas's head superimposed atop the body of a scantily clad showgirl in a chorus line. Perhaps we could have a new contest and someone with some left over webspace can host the pics. ;) By the way Thomas, feel free to correct me if any of my factual information about your night in drag is less than accurate. I'm going from memory based on the old FAQ at the FES website. Of course Thomas is english and as Eric Idol once pointed out, every english man dresses in drag at least once in their life... so Slarvi, Tim, Lem... should I be asking for any photo scans of you guys too? ;) CRACKERS (Thank you Kids In The Hall for bringing drag to Canadian Comedy from hell!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 13:01:33 -0800 From: Kathleen Truelove Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: Gargoyles in Pubs and Not in Cairo Well, I was born in a little town in Northern California called Lodi. How's that for small beginnings. Pax Aye, Kate;-) Jennie Bolton wrote: > >BTW, Europa is the source of all knowledge about TMDR's slightly more > humble birthplace. I think it might have been Guildford, rather than Cairo. > Personally I quite admire the man for just making stuff up like that. I was > born in a place called The Shrubbery, Basingstoke, and if I were going to be > famous I think I'd change it to the Palm House at Kew. > > Come on, man! Basingstoke was immortalized by Robyn Hitchcock! ("I Often > Dream of Trains"). How much cooler than that could you get?! > > Toodles, > Jennie (:^ > ____________________________________________________ > Jennie Bolton, Research Chemist > Northwest Fisheries Science Center · > Vice-Chair, Pionus Breeders Association > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 13:04:16 -0800 From: Kathleen Truelove Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: Sometimes being a musician can be a drag Maybe he was taking a walk on the wild side. You know, some guys look rather cute in drag, especially when certain parts of their anatomy is exposed. I went to a Drag Queen club for my bachelorette party and had a great time. Even got my picture with some of the 'Queens' of the club. Pax Aye, Kate;-) Jennie Bolton wrote: > Crackers writes - > > >So I guess now Thomas isn't the only musician here to have done a show > > in drag > > Um, excuse me for sounding really dumb, but could you elaborate on this? I > had no idea that Thomas has done this...where and when? What did he wear? > Details, details, for those of us who are obviously depraved (oops! I > *meant* deprived). ;-) > > Jen (:^ > ____________________________________________________ > Jennie Bolton, Research Chemist > Northwest Fisheries Science Center · > Vice-Chair, Pionus Breeders Association > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 13:46:07 -0800 From: "Jennie Bolton" Subject: Alloy: Birthplaces [was Gargoyles] Kate wrote- >Well, I was born in a little town in Northern California called Lodi. How's that >for small beginnings. Heck, I've probably been through there. And that reminds me that my sister and I were almost named for teensy towns in Nevada. I would have been 'Fallon' and my sister 'Tonopah'. I like the names, but I have mixed feelings about Fallon now, being as it is, the place John Bobbit has chosen to live these days. :-\ One more thing I want to tell everyone before I go...I'm going to go get some ink done today after work. Don'tcha all want to know what? I guess I need to put the design up on my web page, so's you can get a gander. (It's so cool...) I'm having that pre-tattoo anxiety even now...you know, kinda like sitting in the dentist's office. Though, if it were that bad, do you think I would be getting another one? Breathe, breathe, relax! Feeling those endorphins pumping already, Jen (:^ ____________________________________________________ Jennie Bolton, Research Chemist Northwest Fisheries Science Center · Vice-Chair, Pionus Breeders Association ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:33:59 +0100 From: "I T Admin @ Govt Office North West" Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: Sometimes being a musician can be a drag At 15:03 29/03/99 -0500, Crackers wrote: >Of course Thomas is english and as Eric Idol once pointed out, every english >man dresses in drag at least once in their life... so Slarvi, Tim, Lem... >should I be asking for any photo scans of you guys too? ;) > > CRACKERS >(Thank you Kids In The Hall for bringing drag to Canadian Comedy from hell!!) > Listen, buddy, what Mrs Slarvibarglhee and I get up to in the privacy of our own rumpus room is no one's biz but ours, and there are no photos of any of our activities in existance anyway. So see my solicitor, Sunny Jim, or stop spreading those slanderous rumours. Thank you and oblige. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:14:29 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Headspace & Bowie A forward of more Headspace news! :) Robin T Headspace Announces Release of Beatnik Player 2.0 MTV Online and Music Icon David Bowie Embrace 'Interactive MP3' Audio on Web Sites SAN MATEO, Calif., March 29 /PRNewswire/ -- Headspace, Inc., the interactive audio leader and creator of Beatnik technology, today announced the release of Beatnik Player 2.0. The enhanced version of this popular Web audio player adds seamless cross-browser support for both Microsoft Internet Explorer and the AOL browser, joining Netscape Navigator 4.5 which already includes Beatnik as part of its standard install. The Beatnik Player 2.0 (550 kb) is available for free download today at http://www.headspace.com/to?player. Headspace also announced today the release of the Beatnik Player Pro 2.0 with CD-quality audio (44 khz at 16-bit) and a 6 mb soundbank. The Beatnik Player Pro 2.0 is available for $19 at http://www.headspace.com/to?player-pro. "Our goal to continually push the envelope of audio on the Web to meet the demands of both consumers and developers has led to the creation of an advanced player," said Thomas Dolby, Founder and Chief Beatnik of Headspace. "The Web community can now use Beatnik Player 2.0's unique interactivity on a variety of platforms and still benefit from the faster downloads made possible by the red-hot MP3 encoding." Unlike typical linear MP3 players such as WinAmp, Beatnik Player 2.0 is multi-channel, non-linear, highly interactive technology that is easily accessible, user-friendly and is rights-secure. As a result of this cutting- edge development, both musician David Bowie and MTV's Online division have chosen the Beatnik Player 2.0 and the Beatnik Developer Tools to deliver interactive Beatnik content to their site visitors. Web surfers can immediately check out the new features at David Bowie's Web site http://www.davidbowie.com that features an experimental "interactive MP3"-encoded version of his number one hit song "Fame." Bowie fans can now use the Beatnik Player 2.0 to remix the drum, bass and guitar parts, re-create their own grooves and modify the song structure while controlling Bowie vocals. "I knew Thomas as a brilliant keyboard player, but we hadn't worked together since I played Live Aid at Wembley in 1985," said David Bowie, world-renowned musician and creator of his own BowieNet Internet service provider. "This new stuff he's doing with his Beatnik technology is amazing. He's shown me ways to provide my fans with the most cutting-edge technology and make BowieNet unlike any other music site on the Web. Thomas and his company are really blazing a trail for music in the twenty-first century." This latest version of the popular Beatnik Web audio player represents a significant technological breakthrough: It is the Internet industry's first creative use of the controversial MP3 compression algorithm in an interactive and copyright-protected context. Beatnik's audio tools put a secure "wrapper" around MP3-encoded music. Record companies and copyright protection societies are delighted with Beatnik Player 2.0 because it is virtually impossible to illegally duplicate and redistribute Beatnik's RMF (Rich Music Format) files. Visitors to MTV Online and BowieNet will therefore be able to enjoy fast- loading musical Web pages which let them directly interact with their favorite music, re-mix tracks in real time and create their own customized soundtracks. The Beatnik Player 2.0 achieves this by encrypting multiple MP3-encoded audio samples within a single, trackable RMF file. Headspace owns multiple patents relating to this technology. By incorporating interactive, secure MP3 into Beatnik Player 2.0, Headspace continues its commitment to provide fast, reliable audio for Web enthusiasts. Because its authoring APIs are based entirely on industry standards such as HTML and JavaScript, MIDI, WAV and MP3, Beatnik can be considered an "open development" system which enables other software and music vendors to build their own interactive Web applications on top of the Beatnik platform. A full set of content development tools is available from the product section of the Headspace Web site. These tools can be used to create interfaces for interactive MP3, and integrate well with graphical and animation technologies such as Macromedia Director, and Flash as well as Sun's Java technology. The Beatnik Player 2.0 has recently been bundled with both Netscape 4.5, and Intel's Pentium III, in addition to shipping with Macromedia's Dreamweaver, Director, and NetObjects Fusion. Beatnik technology was selected by Sun as the core audio engine in its latest Java 1.2 Virtual Machine. The Beatnik Player 2.0 and the Beatnik family of tools provide an important function for e-commerce companies and corporate marketing departments who need to build strong branding identity on the Web. Beatnik-enhanced sites and Beatnik-sonified ad banners can be used to drive traffic to Web sites, keep visitors engaged longer and build strong brand awareness. About Headspace From its headquarters in Silicon Valley, Headspace delivers interactive audio software technology, its flagship product Beatnik and musical content for the Web. Headspace's audio engine has been licensed to an expanding family of strategic partners, including Sun Microsystems, Oracle/NCI, Intel, NetObjects, Macromedia, Be, Inc. Its Rich Music Format (RMF) is a platform-independent standard for music and audio on the Internet. Headspace musical content has been licensed to many customers, including Netscape Communications Corporation, WebTV and SegaSoft. By coupling expert engineering skills with an expanded catalogue of musical content, Headspace is dedicated to realizing new possibilities for inter active music and audio within multimedia on the Internet. Headspace was formed in 1993 with a team of musical innovators and world-renowned visionary, musician and composer Thomas Dolby Robertson. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:20:53 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Sometimes being a musician can be a drag In a message dated 3/28/99 11:42:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, crackers writes: :: What I failed to realize is that the skirt doen't hang as low when you wear it as it is lying flat. So I had unintentionally made myself more trashy than I intended. My second lesson of the night came at the gig when I was carrying a speaker cabinet over my head up a steep flight of stairs. When you life both arms above your head while wearing a short skirt, the skirt comes up too. A couple of girls going up the stairs behind me couldn't help but comment on this fact. My third lesson of the night was: Pantyhose are uncomfortable. Wearing them is an odd sensation, you sweat, yet your legs are cold. And if you're wearing shoes your feet sweat like crazy! :: Even more so if you haven't shaved them, I'd imagine (your legs, not your feet) Next time if you have any sewing questions, ie pertaining to length of skirt on a three-dimensional figure.. feel free to ask! Can't wait to see your trashy stage gear... Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:27:37 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: new tattoos In a message dated 3/29/99 4:48:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, jbolton@ooze.nwfsc.noaa.gov writes: :: One more thing I want to tell everyone before I go...I'm going to go get some ink done today after work. Don'tcha all want to know what? I guess I need to put the design up on my web page, so's you can get a gander. (It's so cool...) I'm having that pre-tattoo anxiety even now...you know, kinda like sitting in the dentist's office. Though, if it were that bad, do you think I would be getting another one? Breathe, breathe, relax! :: You'll be fine! (or I should say, I'm sure you WERE fine, since it's probably been done by now) Is it your African Grey? I'm always psyched when I think of my next tattoo, it stings a little but is so worth it :) Tell us what ended up happening & please post the design!! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:43:36 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: Sometimes being a musician can be a drag In article <36FFEACF.D1CA08DB@online.disney.com>, you wrote: >Maybe he was taking a walk on the wild side. You know, some guys look rather >cute in drag, especially when certain parts of their anatomy is exposed. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Are you talking about their shoulders? No, it's the bellybutton right? CRACKERS (What's with this big hole in my panties from hell!!!!!!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:43:37 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: Birthplaces [was Gargoyles] In article <1289407112-245241941@ooze.nwfsc.noaa.gov>, you wrote: >Heck, I've probably been through there. And that reminds me that my sister >and I were almost named for teensy towns in Nevada. I would have been >'Fallon' and my sister 'Tonopah'. I like the names, but I have mixed >feelings about Fallon now, being as it is, the place John Bobbit has chosen >to live these days. :-\ ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ My daughter is named Kerala Pembroke Cracknell. Kerala being the state in India where my wife was born and Pembroke being the city in Canada where I was born. (Pembroke is actually a boy's name but I figure stuck in as a middle name it doesn't really matter) ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ >One more thing I want to tell everyone before I go...I'm going to go get >some ink done today after work. Don'tcha all want to know what? ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ If it's a picture of Thomas in drag, scan it and send it to me. ;) I've never wanted a tattoo but I always figured if I was to ever get one it would be a little red maple leaf on my butt with "MADE IN CANADA / FABRIQUE AU CANADA" writen around it in a circle. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ >Feeling those endorphins pumping already, ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Hey! I was once arrested for feeling dolphins pumping too... DOH! CRACKERS (They call him Flipper from hell!!!!!!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V4 #98 **************************