From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V4 #84 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Tuesday, March 16 1999 Volume 04 : Number 084 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: TMDR Musings/Robin's 'hit' photo! :P [RThurF@aol.com] Alloy: RE: alloy-digest V4 #83 [Andy Venables ] Re: Alloy: TDR Videos,fan clubs [CJMark@aol.com] Alloy: Re: TMDR Musings ["Jennie Bolton" ] Alloy: TMDR CD 1999.... [TBlagg@aol.com] Re: Alloy: mostly to stephen... [Debrah LaRue ] Re: Alloy: RE: alloy-digest V4 #83 [Debrah LaRue ] Alloy: Re: Musings & trivia ? from Deb [Debrah LaRue ] Re: Alloy: sex [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: RE: alloy-digest V4 #83 [Robyn Moore ] Re: Alloy: Re: TMDR Musings [Robyn Moore ] Re: Alloy: Re: TMDR Musings ["Keith Stansell" ] Re: Alloy: TDR Videos,fan clubs [Brian Clayton ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 08:02:28 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: TMDR Musings/Robin's 'hit' photo! :P In a message dated 3/13/99 2:52:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, elaine@qnet.com writes: :: I understand most people think AAMB is his weakest album, but I feel quite the opposite. Maybe it's because this album is the first one I really tuned into, as a fan. Isn't it funny how I sorta missed Wireless altogether? Caught up with it later, I should say. :: So many people feel AAMB is his masterpiece! It leaves me in the dust when I try to conceive of its arrangements & compositions & I'm constantly, lovingly puzzling over it (after which I require cigarrettes & sleep!) I imagine it was a controversial release, most of all because it's probably the one most *unlike* GAOW, which had first caught the industry's attention & which they were of course expecting duplications of in subsequent albums... but as Elvis Costello said, it's the musicians' job to make the music, and the record company's job to know how to market whatever it is that's made. ~FLASHBACK~ to something that somewhat weakly parallels this, and it happened just in my little corner of the universe & not under the media glare Thomas had to put up with on a grand scale: a photography course I took in high school, where on a whim for my first project I overlayed wet newspaper clippings onto the photo paper when printing grim-looking B&W fashion photos I'd taken of my friend. It exposed through, giving an interesting effect... my teacher loved it & it went to a regional show where it even won a prize. For the rest of my course I paid attention to other things I was curious about... my teacher didn't like any of these very much. She said they were good, but not like that first one. At the end of the course she looked at my portfolio & said "You know, I really expected a lot more from you...especially after that first project. You never lived up to that with the rest of your work." Now I don't even like those first photos because without them, my other work would have been seen in a different light entirely & not be constantly compared to them. The various established 'art worlds' are so filled with contradictions & the artist is the one who ends up with the short end of the stick every time. I'm warming up to this whole internet thing the more I hear about it... :) There's a problem in that each monitor makes the art look different, depending on how the viewer has it adjusted etc. We need to come up with a visual art version of Beatnik!! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:03:06 -0000 From: Andy Venables Subject: Alloy: RE: alloy-digest V4 #83 Yo Dudes, Still trying to find out more about The Wreck of the Fairchild... got this: 10/13/1972 LOCATION: Near San Fernando, Chile CARRIER: TAMU FLIGHT: AIRCRAFT: Fairchild-Hiller FH-227D/LCD REGISTRY: T-571 S/N: 572 ABOARD: 45 FATAL: 29 GROUND: DETAILS: The flight crashed into Andes mountains. The survivors were not found until 12/22/72. Survivors resorted to cannibalism to stay alive. The book and move "Alive" is based on this accident. from here: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5260/unusual.html I particularly liked this one: DETAILS: The aircraft ran out of fuel due to a navigation error and crashed into the jungle. The crew, preoccupied with listening to a World Cup championship match, flew in the wrong direction. It is alleged that the pilot led the survivors two days through the jungle to rescue and the first words out of his mouth were "who won". So... still no sign of the WZ... callsign... I'm gradually piecing together a TMDR web-page... allow several weeks for completion! Take care y'all +Andy+ P.S. I LIKE Hot Sauce... it's very varied! The video is one of the best too... Airhead video the MOST disappointing... discuss... :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:10:53 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: TDR Videos,fan clubs Hey Stephen.. Club DV8.. My brother used to work there... in fact I think at one point he was one of the night managers or something.. now I have to find out if he was there when TMDR played!! And he never told me a thing!! Ahh well.. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:49:48 -0800 From: "Jennie Bolton" Subject: Alloy: Re: TMDR Musings Elaine writes, >That's interesting, because Hot Sauce never bothered me much. When I hear >it, I always see spaghetti westerns in my mind's eye (much like the >video). It seems too campy for me to see much sexual connotation. I guess some of the folks on this list aren't Funkateers, you might be a little to young; bear in mind that "Hot Sauce" was written not by TMDR, but by George Clinton (Parliament/Funkadelic), and the sexual connotations are very much intended :-), and of course so is the camp. For those of you who weren't musically aware in the mid/late 70's, you might want to check out a P-Funk compilation or two. Make sure it has "Atomic Dog" and "Mothership Connection" on it! Clinton is a very large influence on a lot of pop music over the last two decades, everything from rap to hiphop to indie, and TMDR himself is apparently a big fan (and influenced by him as well). Oh, and if you get a chance to see George Clinton live, with the P-Funk Allstars (Bernie Worrel and even Bootsy Collins if you're lucky), by all means DO IT. You'll dance your ass off! It's a multigenerational, multiracial, all around great time. George is in his 60s now, and he's still going strong - in fact, he's going to be playing a show here in Seattle just this next weekend! Bow-wow-wow-yippee-yo-yippee-yay! (Why must I be like that/Why must I chase the cat/Nothin' but the dog in me) (Make my funk the P-funk,I want my funk uncut/Make my funk the P-funk, I wants to get funked up/I want the Bomb, I want the P-funk...) Jen (:^ ( <- in anticipation of dancing her ass off) ____________________________________________________ Jennie Bolton, Research Chemist Northwest Fisheries Science Center · Vice-Chair, Pionus Breeders Association ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 16:22:09 EST From: TBlagg@aol.com Subject: Alloy: TMDR CD 1999.... No, your eyes are not deceiving you! On my day off today I took a trip down town to purchase my Mum's birthday present, a selection of Emmylou Harris and Willie Nelson CD's. As per usual, I took the obligatory flick through the 'D' column. To my astonishment, in both HMV and Virgin I discovered a new, unseen, and unheard of TMDR collection CD. Both CD's are entitled 'Hyperactive' and produced this year, but both have very different track listings. Here follows a brief description and run down of songs; CD No1; Orange cover with 4 Andy Warhole type representations of Dolby with headset, probably from TGAOW era. The whole design is similar to that of that earlier Pet Shop Boys CD with the orange cover and orange dots. It is produced by EMI under their 'Gold' Label. It has the following very interesting track listing; 1. Hyperactive! 2. She Blinded Me With Science 3. I Scare Myself 4. Key To Her Ferrari 5. The Flat Earth 6. Mulu The Rain Forest 7. Europa And The Pirate Twins 8. The Ability To Swing 9. Radio Silence 10. Cloud Burst At Shingle Street (Yes, this is how it is spelt) 11. Windpower 12. Screen Kiss 13. White City 14. Airhead 15. Hot Sauce 16. May The Cube Be With You. CD No2; (Also entitled Hyperactive) This one has a delightful image of Thomas wearing his traditional rounded glasses, clad in a top hat and black woollen jacket, sitting on a cliff top in what is a very trendy setting for a photograph. The view of the heavens is breathtaking and the whole design is thoroughly professional. The CD is marketed and distributed by 'Disky Communications Europe B.V', Verlengde, Lageweg 19, 1628 PM Hoorn, The Netherlands. 1. Dissidents 4,55 2. Hyperactive! 4,13 3. She Blinded Me With Science 3,41 4. White City 5,19 5. Radio Silence 3,47 6. Airwaves 5,16 7. Windpower 4,20 8. One Of Our Submarines 5,12 9. Weightless 3,46 10. Screen Kiss 5,31 11. Mulu The Rain Forest 5,00 12. The Flat Earth 6,38 13. Dissidents (The Search For Truth pt. 2) 5,45 14. Get Out Of My Mix / Dolby's Cube 8,00. The last track is a version of this song that I have never heard before, despite having both the single and 12" versions. It fades with a haunting Europa...Europa...most unlike the two aforementioned versions. The quality of both discs is fabulous. Because they are 1999 digital masters I am able to hear detail on tracks (Especially Dissidents) that I haven't heard before... Best day of the year so far?.....I'd say!!!!! Happy hunting..... Trevor.... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 16:08:16 -0700 From: Debrah LaRue Subject: Re: Alloy: mostly to stephen... Stephen M. Tilson wrote: > Club DV8 was a wild place! My wife at the time didn't appreciate it > much, especially when I started flirting with the Peachy's Puffs > girls. (For you outlanders, Peachy's Puffs were updated "cigarette > girls" who worked clubs in the SF area.) The "ex" actually made me > leave before Thomas finished his set - something for which I can ==== Now the lecture Stephen! You didn't really flirt with other women when you were married right? You're just joking...Ummm...if you're not don't answer that...I don't know what I would do if my partner flirted in front of me...poor me, I would probably start crying. > > I'm not laughing. As Mr. Garrison (South Park) says, "There are no > stupid questions Kyle, only stupid people." ==== I've never seen SouthPark I just don't watch TV "shows" themselves other than X-Files really...I would get tempted to watch TV instead of write/study so I always just leave on the history or science channel all day, that way education seeps into my sieve sometimes, accidently***ha ha***BUT last night I was looking for movies (films I love ah yes) and I saw that late night with Jools Holland (I probably saw Squeeze 20 times live) was on BBC America...I had seen that show a few times before and wished I would take the time to write down WHEN it comes on! I look at the screen while I'm reading and I could NOT believe my eyes, it was the Finn Brothers themselves. Neil and Tim, wow!! I was just about in tears...Split Enz, there's a band that was ahead of their time...(my opinion'-) ==== > go taking that the wrong way. I'm only proliferating a joke. The > Lost Toy People trademark has an interesting origin, but I won't go I didn't even know it was an actual tour. I thought he only played here as some kind of experiment. I was a little busy with 2 babies to pay much attention, can u imagine? ==== > > Actually for the experts out there a question from moi? Was it > > already obvious (or is it even true?) that in using the term "the > > golden age" TDR was tipping his hat in a way to ancient Egyptian > > times when it was called this and since his Father was an > > Archaeologist and he was born in Cairo...oh please don't laugh at > > me, I only just recently made the connexion at all... > > First and foremost - Thomas M. Robertson was born in London, UK. > Cairo was a polite fiction designed to fit the "Dolby" persona. I > see the "golden age" thing as further persona embellishment, but I ==== kewl That is exactly why I had only recently thought about the connexion. I had always thought Dolby was born in London from back in the Lene Lovich days when I worked at Tower Records and followed such details (or so I thought) but last week I saw something posted about Dolby on THIS website or a link that said I was in fact wrong, that he was born in Cairo! But I do know all about the bio lying or "embellishing." I have seen friends "create" lines in their bios as jokes even, the press often makes mistakes. There is a book about new wave that correctly says my ex-husbands bandmate at the time married Paul Siminon (sp)bassist from the Clash but then it said my husband was Eddie Money's new bass player? I still have the book, What a laugh...Mr. Money had hired him to do a TV show because he was looking for a bassist but he was no bass whore and would never sink that low. I am reasonably secure there are no Money fans here (they probably never noticed he once existed in the UK anyway '-) Even in our (voice farm- no you never heard of them)lame tiny bio that was on the poster inside an old punk compilation lp, It says "we enjoy the outdoors, television...we're at home in the kitchen,ski slope...we like to make love on all fours, we're just like you..." Oh puleeeeze, the guys were just having making fun of "the bio idea." I think there is a rule that NO ONE is allowed to tell the truth in their bios. It's a conspiracy thing ==== > *not* one of the experts-in-residence. Perhaps the three Tommy > Awards judges should take note of Debrah's question. Might make a > good essay topic . . . ==== ok so now we know the truth of it, it was a stupid guess...banging head on keyboard, that probably is way off. ===== > > Hey WOW have you guys seen the Star Wars trailer yet? I'm going > > to leave you all to download it...http://www.starwars.com > > That's a 14Mb file, folks - for soggy 320x200 output with a very > noticeable frame rate. Takes about two hours with a 28.8Kbps ===== Well...I forget easily about computers being even more ancient than mine (I WANT A G3 like now), I live down the street from Apple headquarters and the starwars site is being run from there so can you imagine how fast it got here? (is she that dumb?) I wish I understood computers more, but it took my 56 modem and very old powermac what seemed almost 2 hours to download...at the 25mb size...you would think a server being a mile away would make a difference...but no '-) I doubt it's worth downloading the trailer unless you like to twiddle your thumbs... I am really evil today Debrah- madame darkness ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:53:41 -0700 From: Debrah LaRue Subject: Re: Alloy: RE: alloy-digest V4 #83 > > P.S. I LIKE Hot Sauce... it's very varied! The video is one of the best > too... Airhead video the MOST disappointing... discuss... :-) Hi andy! ok discuss (but I'm still sniveling from flu) I think one of the reasons I personally love airhead (both song and video) is that it is so clear that Dolby wants people to understand that if a woman or a man is seen as an airhead or a bimbo that we are ALL somewhat to blame for this as well as the so-called "airhead." I know that there would probably be people who were not fans and don't know his music, whom, just hearing the radio, would hear it as a very sexist song when it is so obviously not. Do they hear: "It was us made her that way?" Maybe that's what bothers me down deep about "hot sauce?" I see Dolby as a man who must surely have great respect for women so the song smacks of paradox? (gee I won't go there, I NEVER contradict myself'-) So I guess I'm just glad he didn't write it. Still, there is even a part of me that hopes he was just having fun with something so totally "bold?" He does like "prince" and he is a sexist artist (in my mind) but I am (of course) over-aware of how unsubtle sexism is;or anything that "degrades" a human being, puts one lower than another... blah blah Debs Debrah ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 14:20:20 -0700 From: Debrah LaRue Subject: Alloy: Re: Musings & trivia ? from Deb notation. > > I guess some of the folks on this list aren't Funkateers, you might be a no funk/parliament fan here :( ======= > little to young; bear in mind that "Hot Sauce" was written not by TMDR, but > by George Clinton (Parliament/Funkadelic), and the sexual connotations are not me...a little too old I think and I was on the other "team" anyhaps. XTC, Cabaret Voltaire, OMD, Human League, Ultravox, Eno...on and on...punk european electronica/early industrial was my thang back then. I didn't even know who wrote hot sauce when I mentioned my "distaste" fot it **ha**, never looked for the details, but it makes sense now why I have trouble with it. ==== > Connection" on it! Clinton is a very large influence on a lot of pop music > over the last two decades, everything from rap to hiphop to indie, and TMDR ouch...I can handle the rap/hiphop reference...it's true that he had an influence on Dolby? I dunno...just hurts to imagine, that the keyboard player in Lene lovich's very rebelious angsty band would listen to the...the D word? (disco;) I was just being way too judgemental in the mid-late 70's but the memory of disco/funk still jerks my knee somehow. Damn you mean we can't all agree on everything? ======= > You'll dance your ass off! It's a multigenerational, multiracial, all Actually, it is interesting that Dolby brought us together right? We obviously have strong differences in musical tastes, what is or isn't music to our ears? Yet Dolby caught us both as fans? That is an accomplishment...putting people like us in the same rooms...and adults that won't fight and get too personal over the matter? Just say "oh well..." Some of the Dolby collections some of you have here must be something. I know I lost most a lot of my vinyl/cassette collection in SF. (stolen) I had to buy the CD's as I found them in the 80's. I am really happy that I still at least have a copy of "lucky number" and "new toy" on video and you can see Dolby singing backup vocals in the hallway with the band on new toy anyways! Is that the connexion between "the lost toy people" and Dolby? Did he name it that because of the Lovich era of "new toy." I remember when Stateless came out and then New Toy a year or so later and I remember going to a live show at mabuhay gardens Broadway in SF, maybe 1979? I remember that but not the show itself...I bet I get alzheimers when I am a "senior citizen." I already have such "selective" memory...ok experts? At one point "exactly" did Dolby (he was in the sinceros right?) join her band? I am almost certain he was at the Mab show and that she played music from both LPs. What a piss poor memory... back to bed... Debrah...someone tells me my lucky number is going to be changing soon... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 19:28:29 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: we'll always have chocolate 'cigarettes'... In a message dated 3/15/99 8:05:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, I wrote: << So many people feel AAMB is his masterpiece! It leaves me in the dust when I try to conceive of its arrangements & compositions & I'm constantly, lovingly puzzling over it (after which I require cigarrettes & sleep!) >> In response to a very sweet personal letter I just received about this post let me clarify... you;re right, I don't smoke & never have... my nasty old asthma does keep me from having ANY fun inhaling all sorts of rolled-up flaming leaves. The cigarette reference is just an allegorical illustration I always use of how exhausted, yet strangely fulfilled (truly!! :) I feel after AAMB is through with me. Sorry, I didn't mean to scare you, if you were scared! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 17:26:00 -0800 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Re: Alloy: TMDR Musings At 11:49 AM 3/13/99 , you wrote: > > >That's interesting, because Hot Sauce never bothered me much. When I hear >it, I always see spaghetti westerns in my mind's eye (much like the >video). It seems too campy for me to see much sexual connotation. The I've always considered the video for Hot Sauce to be a lot more explicit than the song itself. In fact, I've always wondered if it got any airplay due to it's content. Does anyone know? Robyn M @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.alveus.com/kbrm/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 20:31:14 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: sex In a message dated 3/15/99 5:31:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, darkpoet@darkpoet.com writes: << Still, there is even a part of me that hopes he was just having fun with something so totally "bold?" >> That's the impression I have always had from this song... it's fun & really unusual compared to anything he'd recorded previously. I've always had a strong impression of Thomas' obvious love & respect for women. I don't think that a piece of work is sexist merely because it has to do with sex. Thomas has never been one to shy away from sex as a topic in songs, a trait I've always admired in him, especially because of his direct, no-frills approach to it (where others might mince around the subject... not Thomas! :) It feels to me like simple affirmation of the fact that human beings are sexual creatures & that sex is fun, as well as a meaningful thing between individuals. Please DON"T READ the rest of this if use of proper names of female body parts grosses you out... WARNING... but there was an exhibit financed by the NEA that I thought was really rude, done by a "feminist artist". It cost thousands of dollars, and took around a year to complete. When it was unveiled, what should be seen but a lovely table arranged with a centerpiece of flowers, forks & knives & plates... but on each plate was an elaborate sculpture of a vagina! **ppuuuuuukke!!!*** Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 17:47:46 -0800 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Re: Alloy: RE: alloy-digest V4 #83 At 06:03 AM 3/15/99 , you wrote: >P.S. I LIKE Hot Sauce... it's very varied! The video is one of the best >too... Airhead video the MOST disappointing... discuss... :-) It took me a LONG time to warm up to the Airheads video. Sure, it was nice that it was a Breakthrough Video on MTV, which gave it some airplay, but in all honesty, if it hadn't been Thomas's work, I probably wouldn't have given it a second chance. However, it did grow on me, particularly after I realized that it was Thomas playing the perv who fished the controller out of the trash as well as the scientist. Oh, and that grin after he does the backflip. (Sometimes, one tiny moment will make or break a video or song for me...is anyone else like that?) Robyn M @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.alveus.com/kbrm/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 18:00:45 -0800 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: TMDR Musings At 09:49 AM 3/15/99 , you wrote: >I guess some of the folks on this list aren't Funkateers, you might be a >little to young; bear in mind that "Hot Sauce" was written not by TMDR, but >by George Clinton (Parliament/Funkadelic), and the sexual connotations are >very much intended :-), and of course so is the camp. For those of you who >weren't musically aware in the mid/late 70's, you might want to check out a >P-Funk compilation or two. Make sure it has "Atomic Dog" and "Mothership >Connection" on it! Clinton is a very large influence on a lot of pop music >over the last two decades, everything from rap to hiphop to indie, and TMDR >himself is apparently a big fan (and influenced by him as well). Oh, and if >you get a chance to see George Clinton live, with the P-Funk Allstars >(Bernie Worrel and even Bootsy Collins if you're lucky), by all means DO IT. > You'll dance your ass off! It's a multigenerational, multiracial, all >around great time. George is in his 60s now, and he's still going strong - >in fact, he's going to be playing a show here in Seattle just this next >weekend! I just love George Clinton...not only his music, but anyone who has the nerve to wear hair like that over about the age of 25 gets bonus points in my book. :) I always mean to go see him when he comes to town, but I always seem to be busy that night. :/ Guess I'll just have to try harder. As for age, I'm staring down the barrel of 36, which is old to some and young to others. ;) Robyn M @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.alveus.com/kbrm/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 20:40:12 -0700 From: "Keith Stansell" Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: TMDR Musings All right! You've convinced me. George Clinton and the P-Funk AllStars - Ogden Theater Denver, Friday March 19th - I'm there dude! - -Keith - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jennie Bolton To: Sent: Monday, March 15, 1999 10:49 AM Subject: Alloy: Re: TMDR Musings > >Elaine writes, > >>That's interesting, because Hot Sauce never bothered me much. When I hear >>it, I always see spaghetti westerns in my mind's eye (much like the >>video). It seems too campy for me to see much sexual connotation. > >I guess some of the folks on this list aren't Funkateers, you might be a >little to young; bear in mind that "Hot Sauce" was written not by TMDR, but >by George Clinton (Parliament/Funkadelic), and the sexual connotations are >very much intended :-), and of course so is the camp. For those of you who >weren't musically aware in the mid/late 70's, you might want to check out a >P-Funk compilation or two. Make sure it has "Atomic Dog" and "Mothership >Connection" on it! Clinton is a very large influence on a lot of pop music >over the last two decades, everything from rap to hiphop to indie, and TMDR >himself is apparently a big fan (and influenced by him as well). Oh, and if >you get a chance to see George Clinton live, with the P-Funk Allstars >(Bernie Worrel and even Bootsy Collins if you're lucky), by all means DO IT. > You'll dance your ass off! It's a multigenerational, multiracial, all >around great time. George is in his 60s now, and he's still going strong - >in fact, he's going to be playing a show here in Seattle just this next >weekend! > >Bow-wow-wow-yippee-yo-yippee-yay! (Why must I be like that/Why must I chase >the cat/Nothin' but the dog in me) (Make my funk the P-funk,I want my funk >uncut/Make my funk the P-funk, I wants to get funked up/I want the Bomb, I >want the P-funk...) > >Jen (:^ ( <- in anticipation of dancing her ass off) >____________________________________________________ >Jennie Bolton, Research Chemist >Northwest Fisheries Science Center · >Vice-Chair, Pionus Breeders Association > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 20:20:49 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) From: Brian Clayton Subject: Re: Alloy: TDR Videos,fan clubs On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, Stephen M. Tilson wrote: > The "ex" actually made me leave before Thomas finished his set - > something for which I can hardly forgive her, except that I had > seen him a few nights earlier at a different venue . . . from > the first row dead center. The Omni? So that was YOU stepping on my toes during "Budapest By Blimp?" Down in front! BC - --- Brian Clayton "The main motive for going beyond the Rim... stemish@lns.com there's a heck of a big Taco Bell out there..." -- jms ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V4 #84 **************************