From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V4 #83 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Sunday, March 14 1999 Volume 04 : Number 083 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: least favorite by far [jacksonhome@home.com (Lee Jackson)] Alloy: TDR Videos,fan clubs ["Stephen M. Tilson" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 09:06:22 GMT From: jacksonhome@home.com (Lee Jackson) Subject: Re: Alloy: least favorite by far On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 03:04:08 -0500, you wrote: >OK, my least favorite song is Commercial Breakup. I like this one, but I have to agree that Thomas' strengths lie in his soulful tracks. If I had to name a least favorite (gad, I hate to think of people doing this to the music I've written!!!), it would have to be She Blinded Me With Science. Throw your brickbats if you want, but I've never thought of it as one of my favorites. That doesn't mean I don't like the song - it's just not in my top ten list of Thomas' works. My favorites would have to include Europa, One of Our Submarines, The Flat Earth, Radio Silence (guitar version), Valley of the Mind's Eye, and Cloudburst at Shingle Street. Hell, you offer to play any of his works, including Science, and I won't say no. Why else would I subscribe to a list like this? BTW, maybe I'm just late to the party, but I saw something I didn't expect to see the other day: several of Thomas' CD tracks being posted to an MP3 newsgroup! I doubt that anyone here would rip his tracks and post them, and I certainly wouldn't encourage it myself. Still, it's nice in an odd sort of way to see that there is someone who is willing to spread his stuff around, even if it is via a ripped track. // Lee Jackson (jacksonhome@home.com) // http://gameaudio.3dportal.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 04:44:36 -0500 From: "Stephen M. Tilson" Subject: Alloy: TDR Videos,fan clubs Hiya Deb, > I don't know where he played in SF but if it was clubDV8 the > owners were (the club closed :-( really nice people. Club DV8 was a wild place! My wife at the time didn't appreciate it much, especially when I started flirting with the Peachy's Puffs girls. (For you outlanders, Peachy's Puffs were updated "cigarette girls" who worked clubs in the SF area.) The "ex" actually made me leave before Thomas finished his set - something for which I can hardly forgive her, except that I had seen him a few nights earlier at a different venue . . . from the first row dead center. > Thank you...you're laughing at me because I'm so new that you > guys have probably discussed that tour... I'm not laughing. As Mr. Garrison (South Park) says, "There are no stupid questions Kyle, only stupid people." Don't go taking that the wrong way. I'm only proliferating a joke. The Lost Toy People trademark has an interesting origin, but I won't go into that as it might be asked in the upcoming Tommy Awards II. Tommy Awards you ask? A contest of wit and wisdom being planned for the near future (Dolby-geeks only need apply) with at least one prize for the Grand Geek, and maybe more for the runners-up. > Actually for the experts out there a question from moi? Was it > already obvious (or is it even true?) that in using the term "the > golden age" TDR was tipping his hat in a way to ancient Egyptian > times when it was called this and since his Father was an > Archaeologist and he was born in Cairo...oh please don't laugh at > me, I only just recently made the connexion at all... First and foremost - Thomas M. Robertson was born in London, UK. Cairo was a polite fiction designed to fit the "Dolby" persona. I see the "golden age" thing as further persona embellishment, but I am *not* one of the experts-in-residence. Perhaps the three Tommy Awards judges should take note of Debrah's question. Might make a good essay topic . . . Nuff said, /\/\iles - Dolby geek. It's true. P.S. You wrote: > Hey WOW have you guys seen the Star Wars trailer yet? I'm going > to leave you all to download it...http://www.starwars.com That's a 14Mb file, folks - for soggy 320x200 output with a very noticeable frame rate. Takes about two hours with a 28.8Kbps connection. Just thought to share the caveat . . . Go see it in the theater if you can. Has anyone seen the wonderfully clever "The Spy who Shagged Me" trailer that ties into the Star Wars trailer? What a hoot! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 05:35:55 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Alloy: Anyone attend (or attending) the Bammie Awards? It occured to me last night that - I think - this was the weekend for the awards show for which Thomas is presenting in SF, which Monya had told us about. Did anyone go? Anyway I hope it was a fun event. If anyone here attended, please give us a review of the awards - I'm curious because I've never heard of the Bammies before. Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 10:11:42 -0800 From: Kathleen Truelove Subject: Re: Alloy: TDR Videos,fan clubs Debrah, I never thought about the reason TD called one of his first albums The Golden Age. Mulu and Hot Sauce are kinda hard to digest at times. When I first heard Mulu, I thought it one of oddest songs I ever heard. It kinda grew on me. Of course when I first heard Hot Sauce, my face turned red and was a wee bit embarrassed. Felt at the time, the song revealed more than I wanted to know about 'sauce'. Now, I just laugh when I hear the song. It's a typical man's hormonal song about women. Pax Aye, Kate;-) Debrah LaRue wrote: > Stephen M. Tilson wrote: > > > > Debrah the Dark intoned: > > > > > I don't like 3 Dolby songs in total. Hot sauce, neon sisters, mulu > > > > I suppose you know that Hot Sauce is credited to George Clinton - not > > Thomas, so that gets you down to two . . . > ==== > > Hi there! Sorry I'm a bit sluggish on this one but I meant to answer the > other day! I am ashamed...I never checked the credit on Hot Sauce, but > that sure explains why I don't like it; not a big George Clinton fan > here. > ===== > > > > And I have to say that I am surprised, oh mistress of the night, that > > you don't take *some* satisfaction from the other two. They > > certainly are Dark. It's that old approach/avoidance thing, eh? > > > > > the nightclub...the one Dolby played at... > ==== > > That's Vampyrella '-) Yuch, just kidding...It's not really that I don't > like Mulu, I just think that after a million listens, I sometimes skip > this one and I guess I'm not in the mood for that style or I'd put on > Dead Can Dance? I dunno...go figure...I am after all the princess of > paradox as well eh? > > > > That would be Club DV8, yes? > ===== > > I don't know where he played in SF but if it was clubDV8 the owners were > (the club closed :-( really nice people. They managed/supported the band > I was in at one time. It's too bad how many clubs go under in the bay > area. The one I'm referring to was in Santa Clara called One Step > Beyond, and yup our big club venture went under within a few years...you > can't do 7 nights a week gothic/80's format even now, you really > couldn't pull it off then. The 2 main owners were both from Britain > (making them ahead of their time already) and as much as we all wished > there was a larger audience there just wasn't. The club is at least an > infamous legend now as it was the first club of it's kind in Silicon > Valley...you rock Brits! > > > > forgetting to ask him how it was really billed? Anyone know if it > > > was "the lost toy people?" > > > > Yes. > > Thank you...you're laughing at me because I'm so new that you guys have > probably discussed that tour a million times and I missed every word > till now...shame on you. I had been having my "can't remember Shit" > disease for days on that one! First word starts with L, first word > "lost" 2nd letter...and there she blows...alzheimers... > > > L8R, > > /\/\iles > > Actually for the experts out there a question from moi? Was it already > obvious (or is it even true?) that in using the term "the golden age" > TDR was tipping his hat in a way to ancient Egyptian times when it was > called this and since his Father was an Archaeologist and he was born in > Cairo...oh please don't laugh at me, I only just recently made the > connexion at all... > > Hey WOW have you guys seen the Star Wars trailer yet? I'm going to leave > you all to download it...http://www.starwars.com > Just a "little" off topic? > > The Dark One '-) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 11:49:10 -0800 (PST) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: TMDR Musings That's interesting, because Hot Sauce never bothered me much. When I hear it, I always see spaghetti westerns in my mind's eye (much like the video). It seems too campy for me to see much sexual connotation. The one that embarrasses me more is Pulp Culture. The whole lyric about short & curlies and telling me on the kitchen table and up against the wall, you know what I mean. "Embarrasses" is a term I use very loosely. I find I like it, and it's vaguely embarrassing at the same time. Is that what happens when you watch a movie's racy scene with your Mom in the room? Maybe my feeling comes from Pulp Culture being subtle, and I am proud of myself that I "get it." It's funny how people see things differently.. I understand most people think AAMB is his weakest album, but I feel quite the opposite. Maybe it's because this album is the first one I really tuned into, as a fan. Isn't it funny how I sorta missed Wireless altogether? Caught up with it later, I should say. P.S. - "Poison City" right about NAILS it. Don'tcha love honesty. - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, Kathleen Truelove wrote: > I never thought about the reason TD called one of his first albums The > Golden Age. Mulu and Hot Sauce are kinda hard to digest at times. When > I first heard Mulu, I thought it one of oddest songs I ever heard. It > kinda grew on me. Of course when I first heard Hot Sauce, my face > turned red and was a wee bit embarrassed. Felt at the time, the song > revealed more than I wanted to know about 'sauce'. Now, I just laugh > when I hear the song. It's a typical man's hormonal song about women. ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V4 #83 **************************