From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V4 #74 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Saturday, March 6 1999 Volume 04 : Number 074 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Rockula ["Keith Stansell" ] Re: Alloy: We're engaged! [CJMark@aol.com] Re: Alloy: We're engaged! [CJMark@aol.com] Re: Alloy: More Good News/We're engaged! [CJMark@aol.com] Re: Alloy: We're engaged! [CJMark@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Re: Alloy Members [CJMark@aol.com] Alloy: for CJMark from Debrah [Debrah LaRue ] Re: Alloy: Alloy Members past [CJMark@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Alloy Members/clarification [RThurF@aol.com] RE: Alloy: a mini-fitz ["Ulfstedt, Louise" ] Re: Alloy: Dear Dark Poet [Keith Dawe ] Re: Alloy: OXFORD HELP! [Kathleen Truelove ] Re: Alloy:web site ["LL Frattarola" ] Alloy: (no TMDR) SMILING ! [Peter Fitzpatrick ] Re: Alloy:web site [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: (no TMDR) SMILING ! [RThurF@aol.com] Alloy: all about Ben and KHarma and us; EVEN TMDR [Debrah LaRue Subject: Alloy: Rockula Someone asked about Rockula earlier - sorry don't remember who it was. I just did a search on Amazon.com and found that the video is available for purchase there for $12.99. Go figure. - -Keith (who found it on laserdisc for $2.00 in the clearance bin) Stansell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 02:17:46 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: We're engaged! Wow.... Belated congrats Dennis and Teresa...!!! Sounds like a very romantic offer of marriage.. and its great to hear Teresa accepted!! Ciao for now.. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 02:23:05 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: We're engaged! Hey Melissa.. et al.. Indeed it has been a good month.. for me as well.. though my fortune doesn't merit the applause that yours and Dennis and Teresa's does.. it's good to have clients call back.... which is what has happened to me this month.. I've been traveling.. back in LA for a few days.. we're shooting another Italian commercial at a place called Santa Ynez.. about 30 minutes north of Santa Barbara.. so I drove there and back today (300 miles) to do a scout.. Interesting place.. nice rolling hills.. green.. ranches and vineyards.. I'll be there for 4 days and I hope to taste some wine!! Meanwhile.. we'll be filming three world champion female skydivers doing aerial ballet.. should be fun..and I'm contemplating doing my first jump.. Yikes! Sorry to ramble on off subject here.. I'll stop.. Ciao for now.. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 02:24:02 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: More Good News/We're engaged! Congrats E(lipse!! More great news for the Alloyed! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 02:25:35 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: We're engaged! Hey Debrah... Not to worry.. he obviously didn't have the intelligence to understand your brilliance.. let him go.. when a door closes.. a window opens.. ! Ciao for now.. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 02:50:44 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: Alloy Members Dear Elaine.. I agree with you.. Had Andy taken the time to tune in a bit longer... doubtless we would have brought up some new bit of information regarding Mr. D.. And I think that we all share the buzz and excitement when Thomas does indeed grace us with his presence.. At the same time.. long winded diatribes about one's last love.. well... I guess I can live without those as well. I understand people's need to communicate their sorrow.. but perhaps those that want to expound could take it to a more private level.. Just a thought. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 00:16:43 -0700 From: Debrah LaRue Subject: Alloy: for CJMark from Debrah CJMark@aol.com wrote: Thanks, not looking for pity, but often I'm pitiful '-) > > Hey Debrah... > > Not to worry.. he obviously didn't have the intelligence to understand your > brilliance.. My brilliance AND my illness; what a pair...sometimes I am REALLY stupid but then I realise I have been both blessed and cursed at the same time...the expression of poetry is a wonderful experience, yet I know I could not do it without the illness. I know of others who did fine without...drum roll..."the curse of madness." I need the pain, it's a part of me, like my ass is, another I thing I must accept...sorry a little dark humour...'-) About a post I saw earlier about ROCKULA Can't believe it; rockula for 12.99!? I have 2 copies of the movie GOTHIC (Dolby soundtrack...duh) just in case ONE breaks in my lifetime...I'm told it's out of print; the movie AND soundtrack, who knows...I DO have a perfect vinyl of the soundtrack but I too have not turned up a gothic soundtrack CD dammit...turntables are a pain the arse...I think I would pay a rediculous amount of $ for the CD, whether I had it spend or not (during hypo-mania of course '-) Debrah ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 03:13:41 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Alloy Members past Dear Stephen.. Everything happens for a reason.. if Andy feels he suffers through our personal lives just to get to a small thread of news regarding Mr. Dolby.. then he should indeed depart.. The decision is his.. and I, for one, find that trying to convince others of doing things that they don't feel personally is generally a waste of energy.. Time I could have spent finding that "life" that according to one person is lacking.. Alloy has many different personalities.. and faces.. to include.. and it seems that we are growing quickly in numbers.. I enjoy hearing from different folks.. from different parts of the world.. even if it is their personal lives we are being presented. It seems that the one thing that keeps us relaxed here is that we all share a fascination with the music of Thomas... obviously. I guess this is a worthless ramble too.. ahh well.. I'm exhausted.. Ciao for now.. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 07:26:33 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Alloy Members/clarification In a message dated 3/5/99 3:16:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, CJMark@aol.com writes: << if Andy feels he suffers through our personal lives just to get to a small thread of news regarding Mr. Dolby.. then he should indeed depart.. The decision is his.. and I, for one, find that trying to convince others of doing things that they don't feel personally is generally a waste of energy.. Time I could have spent finding that "life" that according to one person is lacking.. >> Hi Mark (and others who may be just joining in) As it happens, Andy decided to stay with Alloy & is very much happier with the digest version (a compiled list of our posts issued in one downloadable file, for those who may not know this existed) Without the confusion of various small posts which he found difficult to follow as a new person to the group, he is finding he enjoys it here, as we enjoy his being here. Everyone's apologised all around for misunderstandings or criticizms, and we've started over fresh :) There are a few other, unrelated matters I'm still clearing up behind the scenes, but thanks to friends here it's being taken care of swiftly. I love you guys! Boy, if I'd known computers could do all that, I would definitely have gone into programming instead of... whatever it is I do... Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 14:39:34 +0200 From: "Ulfstedt, Louise" Subject: RE: Alloy: a mini-fitz This is truly great news, Peter! So glad your little one has been given the all clear! Catch up on your sleep now! Lissu :-) > -----Original Message----- > From: RThurF@aol.com [SMTP:RThurF@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, March 05, 1999 2:27 AM > To: alloy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Alloy: a mini-fitz > > > In a message dated 3/4/99 10:24:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, > peterfit@MICROSOFT.com writes: > > << Last night the consultant neurologist gave Ben the all clear so now > mother > (Val) can relax a little. I slept last night for the first time this > week. > >> > > I'm SO relieved. I've been thinking of Ben every day since you mentioned > his > entry into the world several days ago. Can't wait to see the pictures of > this > little wonder! > My best to Ben, you, Val & to Ben's lovely sisters.. you must all be so > incredibly happy :) > > Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 10:39:49 -0500 (EST) From: Keith Dawe Subject: Re: Alloy: Dear Dark Poet Deborah, Just to let you know that I ( as well as we here at Alloy) can empathize with you and your condition. You see, my mother also had agoraphobia and thus know what it is like to live with someone who is housebound. I say 'had' though she is not completely cured; fortunately, she's not a prisoner of her own home anymore. It took her 20 years to finally make the first steps to healing--without drugs. Perhaps her conditons was not as severe as yours, but I still feel the medication you are relying on is not helping, perhaps adversely, affecting your mental health. I come from a family of slightly nutty people--y'know, the insane/genius mix. :) My mother and I are extremely sensitive. I don't cry at the little things, though I do get distressed. Depression and feelings of suicide are a regular part of life for us (note: it IS under control. And St. John's Wort really does work wonders). I was also autistic in my childhood. So how did my mother cope? My mother took small steps and never forced herself into any situation that inevitably cause a panic attack. She trained herself to go to the shopping mall; at first with my dad who would rush her home if she had an attack. Eventually, she could go on her own, repeating the same process until she realized that she could dispell those feelings when they came on before continuing with her shopping (she'd buy a drink and sit down for a while). I'm not saying this will help you, or implying that there is an easy cure--there isn't--but relaying a story of someone who has gone through what you did. There is hope. Try not to force yourself though, as the anxiety of trying to succeed may make it worse! Think small steps (and your boyfriend who loves you should understand. He'd better!) - --omega ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 09:20:23 -0800 From: Kathleen Truelove Subject: Re: Alloy: OXFORD HELP! To All, Just want to say that with all of this talk of subjects on Alloy, I've been inspired to listen to just about all of my Dolby material. I truly believe we will always find something to talk about that relates to Dolby. He's such a great artist!!!. Can't stop raving how cool his music is. One of things I like the most about his music is how he is able to blend instruments and melodies together and make them sound fantastic. I also like how there are themes in his songs. Some of them are quite transcending and can have an effect on my mood. This list is a wonderful place whatever is talked about. I'm glad Andy has come back and given this list another try. Ya won't be dissapointed Andy!! Pax Aye, Kate;) RThurF@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 3/3/99 6:25:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, > darkpoet@darkpoet.com writes: > > << I very much respect how Robin T found annoyance of late. He held his > anger and then felt need to release this Truth. You are a very tolerant > bunch so I hope dictionaries, most music subjects, science, philosophy > and other thinking subjects are welcome when there's no Dolby info on > the plate. I think a lot of us are new here and we are posting too much > in our new found excitement. > >> > > Thanks for the compliments, Debrah... much appreciated, and I agree with your > views on this group. I always hope this is a place where people will feel > comfortable discussing intelligent topics such as Dolby, music, philosophy, > science etc... and some not so intelligent (like that time I was nine & threw > up on my dad's hardcover Alice in Wonderland book on a car trip) sometimes... > But one word of slight correction - I'm definitely a 'she', not a 'he'. It's > true! I just have a boyish spelling which sometimes confuses people who can't > see my pink hair & other typically female attributes :) I think Thomas would > find my proposals of marriage far more disturbing if I were a boy (just > joking... in truth neither of us is up for marital grabs... I haven't *really* > been proposing marriage to him thousands & thousands of times over... honest!) > Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 09:27:04 -0800 From: Kathleen Truelove Subject: Re: Alloy:web site I don't remember off hand. I really wish I did. And, regretfully Melissa has left the list. I for one will miss her. When I get a spare moment or so, I'll see about searching for the website. Kick myself for not remembering. Try ebay. You will most likely find Dolby material there. Good luck!!! Pax Aye, Kate;) LL Frattarola wrote: > what site was this? Care to share? > -. It was because of this list that I was able to > >get a rare song of Dolby's (Fieldwork). Melissa introduced me to a website > that > >sells rare albums. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 10:26:43 -0800 (PST) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: Re: Alloy: Cool music site Along the same lines, for those who are getting into RealAudio radio: My brother-in-law is playing around with this as a hobby now and has created http://www.whatson.net He built a little radio studio in his house and he and his friends (and others they've hooked up with across the globe) have a schedule of "radio" programs, all listed there. If something interests you, you can tune in at the appropriate times. Just FYI (and for you New Wave fans, he personally does an 80's retro show on Friday nights from 7-9pm Pacific US time) - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 14:00:10 -0500 From: "LL Frattarola" Subject: Re: Alloy:web site No problem. I already knew about ebay. That where I (well, my husband) got the golden age of video and I got a really kewl cd that has remixes of Hot Sauce. I'll miss Melissa too, I hope all goes well with her and her new job. Thanx anyway Lucinda > >I don't remember off hand. I really wish I did. And, regretfully Melissa has >left the list. I for one will miss her. When I get a spare moment or so, I'll >see about searching for the website. Kick myself for not remembering. Try ebay. >You will most likely find Dolby material there. Good luck!!! > >Pax Aye, >Kate;) > >LL Frattarola wrote: > >> what site was this? Care to share? >> -. It was because of this list that I was able to >> >get a rare song of Dolby's (Fieldwork). Melissa introduced me to a website >> that >> >sells rare albums. > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 23:14:34 -0000 From: Peter Fitzpatrick Subject: Alloy: (no TMDR) SMILING ! There is zero Dolby content in this post, but I think what I'm going to tell you will give you all a lift. Our son Ben was born last monday as you probably know. He had a difficult arrival into our crazy world. Since then he has been in intensive care (all 8lbs 14ozs of him...big eh ?). I asked my friends on some mailing lists to think of him and pray (if that's what they do). Since monday what has happened has been both a nightmare (as any parent with a sick child will tell you) and a joy to watch. Our main concern was that Ben was oxygen deprived during delivery. On wednesday he had EEG and CatScans done. Wednesday night we got the all clear from the neurologist (he went out of his way late at night to come see Ben and examine him). On Thursday Ben was feeding regularly and moved closer to the door of the Intensive Care Unit. A few hours ago my wife got a pleasant suprise when a nurse knocked on the door of her hospital room to bring Ben into her. In a matter of days he had gone from being a very sick baby indeed to being well enough to leave ICU. We expect that Val and Ben can come home on Sunday. That is more than we dared dream earlier this week. I firmly believe that the prayers and thoughts of all those people who heard about him did this. A lot of good karma has been done this week and you all undid a few knots in that karma-rope. Soon as I can stop smiling I'll get some photos of the little lad and post them to http://www.shabbyroad.com Thanks Everyone ! Peter, Val, Ben (& his sisters Alison & Heather) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 18:30:02 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy:web site LL Frattarola wrote: > what site was this? Care to share? > -. It was because of this list that I was able to > >get a rare song of Dolby's (Fieldwork). Melissa introduced me to a website > that > >sells rare albums. >> When I get my Alloy FAQ together, I plan to list sites for hard-to-find recorded work where people might find Dolby items. I'm going to scour the archives for all such addresses, and any others I might come across else where will also go up. Hopefully I can make it as useful a site for Dolby fans as possible! So if you don't happen upon this page on your own, Lucinda, I'm bound to have it (and others) available to you soon. The Alloy FAQ is the first project I have in mind once we are settled in our new place & I'm REALLY looking forward to this relocation nonsense to be over (only three more weeks :) The really amusing thing is that I'll be living practically next door to Alloy's server. This way when there's technical trouble, I can hop over & see if smoe's plug has come loose.. Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1999 20:07:10 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: (no TMDR) SMILING ! In a message dated 3/5/99 6:16:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, peterfit@MICROSOFT.com writes: << A few hours ago my wife got a pleasant suprise when a nurse knocked on the door of her hospital room to bring Ben into her. In a matter of days he had gone from being a very sick baby indeed to being well enough to leave ICU. We expect that Val and Ben can come home on Sunday. That is more than we dared dream earlier this week.>> This is absolutely amazing & uplifting news, Peter! Thank you for keeping us up to date on his progress.. I've been thinking of your family & wondering how things are. I'm greatly honored you feel we helped by having him in our thoughts & prayers (as he is still, with this happy news!) Ben sounds like one strong, determined little baby. His sisters must be so looking forward to welcoming their brother home. All the best to you & your family.. and of course, I'm anxiously looking forward to those baby pictures :) xxx Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 21:08:51 -0700 From: Debrah LaRue Subject: Alloy: all about Ben and KHarma and us; EVEN TMDR ...he is ONE of us even though we think he is a GOD...**** WOW PETER (essay speed read and dump) Chills...You got me...too sensitive and a Mother who had "lucky" births...I have tears of joy in my eyes for Ben and all of your family; a rare thing indeed,joy? I have a deep belief in kHarma even though bad things sometimes happen to GOOD people...I still strongly believe there is an energy (yes in the paranormal sense sorry I am even weirder than you thought before) that we may never understand in our lifetimes. I'll miss you guys the next few days, I NEVER get a fever and I just got hit with a 102, very strange, so I will stay in bed for a few days and won't be posting BUT don't even think I won't be spying on all of you! WARNING TREATISE ON KHARMA AND HUMANITY========== I did NOT believe in February this Winter. I had awful nightmares about it, everything I "felt" was negative and hurtful with only a small "list" of good feelings and up sides. February there were many tragedies with my family, friends, strife for myself, it all "did" occur. BUT not MARCH, I felt "a disurbance in the force" that the tables would turn in March for people in what I call "my circle." Don't ask;Don't tell...NO I'M NOT CALLING MYSELF a psychic, but it has over the course of my life been slightly more than intuition at work, too many coincidences and even a skeptic like me starts a query. I stay "hyperactive" mentally in part to block signals because when I get HIT (like in X-FILES, a slight vision or ?) I get a sick feeling and dizzy, I am TOO afraid and I don't wish to "harness" the energy, there is too much fear for me so I choose to fight "it." (I am a weak spirit and was the wrong choice for such intuition) WE ALL have a level of this "thing" but I strongly believe we are at a Nostradamus type turnpoint for human beings...Utopia VS War; parallel destinies. Either we are living in a time of what I "feel" is the mental evolution of stronger minds and stronger intuitions/empathy abilities that will bring us higher in the humanity chain; If we become more "sensitive/empathic" without going over-board (like I do) won't we care more about the fate of our neighbours? OR; we will destroy each other. (not us or our kind, THE pawns on the chessboard of our planet stalking each other for power) Kharma is part of it but not really in the superstitious sense, metaphysical I admit, can't explain it in words and it has no scientific backing; empirical though it may be. If people converge and attempt to "think" there way to freedom as a species and become a bit more like the "Buddha," we would stop claiming powers for the wrath or sake of our defined "Gods." We have a chance. We don't have to be Buddhists to cause this future and you don't "have to be a rocket scientist" to see we are in deep trouble. But I think our "safety" zone is in danger worse than ever before from hate, distrust, corruption, religious misuse of each other and earth borders. We sink or swim, together as one race;humanity...without the contests/wars. Utopia only exists where Christians, Muslims, Jews et cetera lay down their bibles and believe in an unwritten book, one that does not alter history and destroy humanity through superstition instead of kindness and wisdom. The book only exists as each other grows. Sorry guys I really am, please forgive me, I'm a fledgling philosopher/poet as you know and a nut case with "WAY" too much time on my hands "to think." People like all of you are what helps me fight so hard in my words for UTOPIA to win. I have faith we can get to Utopia, at least a positive change and a forward evolution. Rousseau would enjoy the rose coloured glasses, I suppose my heroes like Voltaire and Diderot might remove them? As a Buddhistic Pagan Jew I will always believe we can pray regardless of where our own spirituality sits with others. If only we did not think we were "better" than our brothers/sisters for our beliefs? Peter you're prayers were answered this time! Call it luck,fate,god... may the gift of life be honoured and cherished through Eternity. Life is often tormenting for me, but I do believe in "it." Your kind lift weight from my shoulders. Blessed Be Debrah (aren't you all lucky I'll be OUT sick for a while HA!) I feel an essay coming on...a good time to be stuck in bed. oh what a git, did I make you put this through manually? ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V4 #74 **************************