From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V4 #46 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Friday, February 12 1999 Volume 04 : Number 046 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: World Class [dalexander@juno.com] Re: Alloy: Re: bagpipes and guitars [dalexander@juno.com] Re: Alloy: Re: bagpipes and guitars [dalexander@juno.com] Alloy: Engagement - Help! [dalexander@juno.com] Re: Alloy: album title? [Tim_Dunn.JBA_HEATHROW.SPL_EXTERNAL@jba.co.uk] Re: Alloy: Engagement - Help! [Tim_Dunn.JBA_HEATHROW.SPL_EXTERNAL@jba.co.] Re[2]: Alloy: Engagement - Help! [John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpar] Re: Alloy: Engagement - Help! [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Scot citizenship/Dark Eye [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Engagement - Help! [MacSuirtain ] Re: Alloy: Engagement - Help! [Kathleen Truelove ] Re: Alloy: (OT) diamonds & war (unpleasant) [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: (OT) diamonds & war (unpleasant) [Keith Dawe ] RE: Alloy: album title? ["Beth Meyer" ] Re: Alloy: album title? [MacSuirtain ] Re: Alloy: album title? [MacSuirtain ] RE: Alloy: Engagement - Help! ["Beth Meyer" ] Alloy: Drawn in like a moth [Darren Mckeeman ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:09:12 -0700 From: dalexander@juno.com Subject: Alloy: World Class Beth wrote, >But then, bear in mind that a) I am a world-class geek . . . Sounds like you've been listening to Boulder's station KBCO, "Playing world-class rock." ___________ JAMac (Dennis S. Alexander) www.dennisa.com - Nutrition/Income Opportunities "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams" - Eleanor Roosevelt ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:13:08 -0700 From: dalexander@juno.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: bagpipes and guitars Keith wrote, >Dennis, let me know about this Scottish festival when it rolls around again. Perhaps I'll go with you and learn a little about my Scottish heritige. > >-Keith (Mack McBroom) Stansell >Denver Towards the end of September in Estes Park, a lovely and Scottish-ish place. Perhapse the peaks in Scotland are no match for Longs peak but the setting would be similar. I'll let you know the exact dates when I get the flyer in the mail. I think you can get the flyers at King Soopers around that time as well. ___________ JAMac (Dennis S. Alexander) www.dennisa.com - Nutrition/Income Opportunities "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams" - Eleanor Roosevelt ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:06:26 -0700 From: dalexander@juno.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: bagpipes and guitars Melissa wrote >Is MacAlister the same as Macalester? I attended Macalester College in St. Paul, Minnesota. It's a very small school. The head of the Macalester family comes from Scotland periodically to visit (usually for the Scottish Country Fair in April). All Macalester students are accepted and adopted into the Macalester family, which I think is pretty cool. > >Still wear my Macalester tartan scarf every winter, Wow! I have an honorary family member right here in Alloy and never knew it! Macalester is most likely the same as MacAlister. There is also a McAllister as well, and probably any other variation you can think of. Especially here in the States, when people migrated over, many were illiterate so the guessing of how their name was really spelled was left up to the immigration registrar in a lot of cases, hence the many variations. ___________ JAMac (Dennis S. Alexander) www.dennisa.com - Nutrition/Income Opportunities "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams" - Eleanor Roosevelt ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 23:30:57 -0700 From: dalexander@juno.com Subject: Alloy: Engagement - Help! Well, I'm 31 and I'm finally settling down! I've decided to ask Teresa to marry me! It's been seven months since we've started hanging out and three since we 'officially' started dating and it's more than obvious to us and the world that we're going to get married. But here's the problem. I know and she knows that we both know we're going to get married. However, I've never formally asked her and she told me that I have to ask her father for her hand anyway. We usually say things like, "When we're married..." so I can't surprise her with the question. What's more, I don't have the cash (or credit) for the rings we've already picked out. Not only that, but she wants me to surprise her anyway, somehow, with or without a ring, and sometime soon! My sister's have been telling me that I'm waiting too long and her father is wondering what my real intentions are as well. Not only that, but we've decided the wedding colors, the wedding party and the month (September). So, if anyone has any suggestions on what I could do to ask her, please tell me. We will be in San Francisco, together, February 19-22 for business and my parents will be there. I'm thinking I'll ask her then. ___________ JAMac (Dennis S. Alexander) www.dennisa.com - Nutrition/Income Opportunities "The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams" - Eleanor Roosevelt ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:15:49 +0000 From: Tim_Dunn.JBA_HEATHROW.SPL_EXTERNAL@jba.co.uk Subject: Re: Alloy: album title? That sounds cool Keith - speaking of scanner art..... (hint!) <<<>> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:20:41 +0000 From: Tim_Dunn.JBA_HEATHROW.SPL_EXTERNAL@jba.co.uk Subject: Re: Alloy: Engagement - Help! HOT AIR BALLOON - ASK HER IN A HOT AIR BALLOON. I've always wanted to go up with Nadia in one - I imagine it would be really romantic, but in reality it would more probably be noisy, smelly and freezing. Try it anyway - no pain no gain, as our old gym teacher used to say. the_copse ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 13:35:24 -0600 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Re[2]: Alloy: Engagement - Help! - --IMA.Boundary.8517378190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part >HOT AIR BALLOON - ASK HER IN A HOT AIR BALLOON. >I've always wanted to go up with Nadia in one - I imagine it would be >really romantic, but in reality it would more probably be noisy, smelly >and freezing. Try it anyway - no pain no gain, as our old gym teacher used >to say. >the_copse How about at the restaurant at the top of the Eiffel Tower, on a balmy August evening in Paris. It worked for me ! A+ John - --IMA.Boundary.8517378190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from ns2.baxter.com ([159.198.1.38]) by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 3.11) id 001169DA; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 04:31:50 -0600 Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.128.1.71]) by ns2.baxter.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA26079 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 04:31:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from smoe.org (080020908e73.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.204.144]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA15412; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 05:27:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id FAA06423; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 05:26:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Thu, 11 Feb 1999 05:26:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id FAA06410 for alloy-outgoing; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 05:25:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from splmta.jbaintl.com (splmta.jbaintl.com [193.131.80.68]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with SMTP id FAA06406 for ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 05:25:40 -0500 (EST) From: Tim_Dunn.JBA_HEATHROW.SPL_EXTERNAL@jba.co.uk Received: by splmta.jbaintl.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 80256715.00393432 ; Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:24:49 +0000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: JBA HEATHROW @ SPL EXTERNAL@JBA To: alloy@smoe.org Message-ID: <80256715.0038ADE2.00@splmta.jbaintl.com> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 10:20:41 +0000 Subject: Re: Alloy: Engagement - Help! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-alloy@smoe.org Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.8517378190-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:03:49 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Engagement - Help! In a message dated 2/11/99 1:35:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, dalexander@juno.com writes: << So, if anyone has any suggestions on what I could do to ask her, please tell me. We will be in San Francisco, together, February 19-22 for business and my parents will be there. I'm thinking I'll ask her then >> I don't remember how Dave and I went about this. Honestly, neither one of us remembers the other bringing up the subject at all, we had been best friends for so long, then one day we found ourselves making wedding plans (after a strange evening involving blue curacao and the floor of my haunted apartment...) What is your greatest mutual interest? I still like the idea of proposing at an observatory during some impressive celestial event that you can both view. Then it will always be 'your' horse head nebula, etc :) Before, you mentioned what you might wear for your wedding & I remember you mentioning the kilt, or styles reminiscent of Africa. What have you decided for the look of your wedding? I think either one would be BEAUTIFUL! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:16:52 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Scot citizenship/Dark Eye Melissa wrote >Is MacAlister the same as Macalester? I attended Macalester College in St. Paul, Minnesota. It's a very small school. The head of the Macalester family comes from Scotland periodically to visit (usually for the Scottish Country Fair in April). All Macalester students are accepted and adopted into the Macalester family, which I think is pretty cool. >> This reminds me of something I've been wondering... Dave and I were under the impression that anyone who can prove Scottish lineage can claim citizenship there if they like. Anyone know if it's true? :) Dave's Scottish on his mother's side (Hammond) On the Dolby side, Dave and I are SO happy because after long last, we have the Dark Eye game which Thomas did the music for. When we first got a computer it was the very first game we tried to get (though at the time I didn't know Thomas had done the music!) but our system was too primitive for it. NOW, finally, after years of suspense, we finally get to immerse ourselves in the macabre world that only Edgar Allen Poe, William S Burroughs, Thomas D and Russell Lees could have created for us. Will I go mad?? Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:13:18 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Engagement - Help! > So, if anyone has any suggestions on what I could do to ask her, please > tell me. We will be in San Francisco, together, February 19-22 for > business and my parents will be there. I'm thinking I'll ask her then. I'm the kind of person who thinks simple is good, and that there is no need to break the bank to demonstrate the true course of love. You say you don't have the cash or credit to get the stuff you guys would like to have. No big deal! You have all the time in the world to make the big bucks and get the rings of your dreams! If you want to have something to present to her when you ask, have you considered a (relatively) inexpensive ring with a nice small stone to offer her? My friends Mary and Charles had been skirting around the marriage issue for ages (she was the holdout - after a lifetime of being the quiet bookish celibate girl, she was just enjoying the whole "living in sin" stuff). Charles wanted to ask her to marry him, but he didn't have the money for a ring - - or anything much else then. Mary's favorite color is green. He found a simple 10K gold ring with a tiny emerald in it - set him back maybe $150 bucks. He called it the "promise ring" as in "I promise when I have money I'll get a better ring." Mary never wanted anything more - she was so touched that he'd picked out a ring with her favorite color, she gave up on holding out and said yes. She's still wearing that lovely little ring with her wedding band, as they look back on 6 years of marriage and prepare for the arrival of their second child. Anyway, it's just a suggestion. With Valentine's Day right around the corner, all the jewelry stores are having major-league sales on simple gold rings with small, but pretty stones of all types. Take Teresa and your parents to a nice dinner at one of the fab Italian places in SF and ask her as you wait for your tiramisu. Or, you could go for dinner in Chinatown and do what abovementioned friend Mary's brother did - arrange to have the ring placed in the fortune cookie of the lovely lady in question. (I thought that was really cool - he'd made up a fortune that simply read "Will you marry me?" and had that tucked in a cookie with the ring.) Be creative - you don't have to go broke to do something that you'll both remember forever. Cheers, Melissa, always the soloist or lesson-reader, never the bride - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 09:22:31 -0800 From: Kathleen Truelove Subject: Re: Alloy: Engagement - Help! Just ask her and present her with at least a ring that you can afford which she would like. Maybe ask her while at dinner with her and her folks. Just do it! Pax Aye, Kate;) RThurF@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/11/99 1:35:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, > dalexander@juno.com writes: > > << So, if anyone has any suggestions on what I could do to ask her, please > tell me. We will be in San Francisco, together, February 19-22 for > business and my parents will be there. I'm thinking I'll ask her then >> > > I don't remember how Dave and I went about this. Honestly, neither one of us > remembers the other bringing up the subject at all, we had been best friends > for so long, then one day we found ourselves making wedding plans (after a > strange evening involving blue curacao and the floor of my haunted > apartment...) What is your greatest mutual interest? I still like the idea of > proposing at an observatory during some impressive celestial event that you > can both view. Then it will always be 'your' horse head nebula, etc :) > > Before, you mentioned what you might wear for your wedding & I remember you > mentioning the kilt, or styles reminiscent of Africa. What have you decided > for the look of your wedding? I think either one would be BEAUTIFUL! > > Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 12:59:02 -0500 From: "Lucinda L. Frattarola" Subject: Alloy: Re: Alloy First off, thank you to everyone for their condolences over the recent death of my brother-in-law. Now, for the engagement help. What if you went to a antique shop or some other shop that sold old jewelry? Or even a pawn shop? Maybe pick something out with her birth stone? Best of luck and congrats! Lucy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:18:01 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: (OT) diamonds & war (unpleasant) In a message dated 2/11/99 1:00:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, Lucinda writes: << Now, for the engagement help. What if you went to a antique shop or some other shop that sold old jewelry? Or even a pawn shop? Maybe pick something out with her birth stone? >> This is an *excellent* idea. If you see an antique ring that has a stone in it that you like, but you don't like the style of the ring, you can have the stone re-set by a jeweler. My own favorite stone has always been opal (must be the colorful sparklies! :) even though my birthstone is emerald... which is also very beautiful. Diamonds have become a tradition everyone takes for granted, but there are so many other beautiful & meaningful stones to give to one another, for a good many reasons.. one of which follows... It's a topic which makes me fall on my knees these days and beg people not to buy new diamonds. That is the war going on in Sierra Leone (sp?) over the diamond mine territories. It is not well publicised because of the amount of money & influence involved, but it has been going on since the early 1990's, funded by several of the biggest, wealthiest diamond dealers/companies. The journalist who gave this report couldn't name names - he said these people are so powerful, he would be dead in thirty seconds if he named them, and he feared for the safety of his family, but later in the report another guy named some of the companies.. think of a few of the biggest diamond jewelry retailers you know of... and that's who is responsible for this war. This is going to sound like science-fiction but I assure you it's really happening. They are funding armies of children, just big enough so they can carry weapons (usually about ten or eleven, but some as young as six, thanks to the new lighter weight weapons). They choose children because they are 'pre-moral', ie haven't developed a set sense of right & wrong and are easily manipulated, also they are easily pleased with trinkets & being fed & clothed, and don't demand to be paid. The very eldest of these army members is usually in his or her early 20's, and by then has spent most of their life in this manner. The boy and girl soldiers are constantly drugged to make them more compliant. The first thing they are made to do when they're recruited is usually kill a family member or close friend, after that they are so consumed with what they have done that they will do anything they are told. The object of this war is to terrorize and effectively wipe out certain communities of people so that the diamond companies will have unfettered access to their land for more mining. Villages are swarmed by the diamond companies' child armies and innocent people are mangled with machetes & often murdered. Those who do not lose their lives are left with permanent disabling scars and lost limbs. The most personally touching & tragic thing for me was when the BBC reporter of this story told of a four-year-old girl who had approached him right before the broadcast, which he was sending from a refugee camp for villagers who'd been attacked. She'd held up to him what was still left of her arm & asked him how much longer it would be before her fingers grew back. And of course, the children who are carrying out these attacks are hopelessly mentally scarred by having been coerced into doing these things, and have almost no hope of leading any kind of even remotely normal life afterward. Antique or heirloom diamonds would of course predate this war, so these, or any number of beautiful stones of other types would be far preferable to having the blood of innocent lives on one's hands if you ask me. I know it's a hopeless cause, since people of many cultures are in love with the idea of a diamond engagement ring to flash around. But if you think that if not for the purchase of that ring, that little girl and hundreds more like her would still have their hands, arms, and legs, or even their lives.. the diamond becomes worthless by comparison. And all that suffering just for the sake of lining someone else's pockets with even more millions of dollars than they already have. It's the most sickening thing I've ever heard. I'm sorry to have to say all this but I just couldn't keep quiet on this because of the discussion of engagement rings! I promise not to mention it again, but if anyone is in the market for jewelry please consider this information carefully. Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:07:01 -0500 (EST) From: Keith Dawe Subject: Re: Alloy: (OT) diamonds & war (unpleasant) Hi. In regards to diamonds, that 'Diamonds are Forever" campaigns is not only a fairl recent tradition, but a fabrication of Madison Avenue. So not only there is a moral issue (from war) but also whether it is truly necessary. Now, if you truly love diamonds that's fine, but I feel that diamonds are not the ONLY choice. Perhaps get her something unique? - --omega ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:50:11 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Engagement - Help! Hey Dennis.. There is a place in San Francisco... called Twin Peaks. It overlooks the entire bay area.. with a sweeping panorama. I did a shoot there at sunrise.. we hired a guy to play a moody saxophone while the camera looked out at the partly foggy area. It was pretty stunning. The only problem is that it was so cold that I nearly froze my rear off.. and it was in May. Other than that.. there is the Golden Gate Bridge.. of course.. and some other nice areas. Personally.. nature inspires me.. so if I am looking for something in the way of inspiration.. I always go for a high peak.. a sweeping ocean view.. Mountain lakes.. or incredible tropical thunderstorms for example.. Don't know if this helps.. your task is not an easy one.. perhaps one of the most difficult a man must face in his life. Ciao for now.. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:54:45 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Alloy: Engagement - Help! Hmmm... My advice.. don't ask her at dinner when her parents are there. That could be very awkward for any number of reasons... and in my opinion.. it should be a moment for just the two of you.. not her folks. They can hear the news later. Just my 2 cents.. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 19:54:25 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: (OT) diamonds & rings In a message dated 2/11/99 6:07:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, omega@freenet.toronto.on.ca writes: << So not only there is a moral issue (from war) but also whether it is truly necessary. Now, if you truly love diamonds that's fine, but I feel that diamonds are not the ONLY choice. Perhaps get her something unique? >> As for myself I wear a plain braided-looking gold band, and a silver ring above that. No stones of any kind. I would always be afraid of knocking it loose with all the hand-tool work I do. For engagement ring ideas, don't forget to check out museum-related gift shops, they often have affordable reproductions of actual museum pieces. Very pretty :) Robin T yearning for a repro silver Paul Revere watch fob from the mfa gift shop!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:37:57 -0800 From: Robyn Moore Subject: Re: Alloy: (OT) diamonds & war (unpleasant) At 02:18 PM 2/11/99 , you wrote: >This is an *excellent* idea. If you see an antique ring that has a stone in it >that you like, but you don't like the style of the ring, you can have the >stone re-set by a jeweler. My own favorite stone has always been opal (must be >the colorful sparklies! :) even though my birthstone is emerald... which is >also very beautiful. Diamonds have become a tradition everyone takes for >granted, but there are so many other beautiful & meaningful stones to give to >one another, for a good many reasons.. one of which follows... I'd also suggest checking little independent shops. That's where we found my handfasting ring, which is an amethyst cabochon set in silver with a little silver rose at either end of the stone. Set us back about $30-$50, which isn't bad at all for a unique piece. ;) As far as diamonds go, I never really liked them personally, and I always suspected there was some unpleasantness involved in keeping them rare and expensive. However, given what you've posted, I think they deserve to go on my 'do not buy' list, along with Black Hills gold, which is mined under protest from sacred land. Robyn M @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.alveus.com/kbrm/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:20:21 -0500 From: "Beth Meyer" Subject: RE: Alloy: album title? Hi, folks; >That's cool. I like it! Magna Sin would be a rockin' album title. > >I maintain a list of "great album titles", "great and silly band names", >and "really cool book titles". Hey, Melissa, I have a couple of "great and silly band names" to add to your list! The first one came from a brainstorming session between my husband and a friend of his on the topic of band names. Mark's favorite, I believe ideally for a pretty hard-edged group, was "Shoefit Wobblehead." I think he would put that in the "great" category, while I would put it in the "silly" category... However, there is a word that we both just learned recently that we both agree would be an awesome band name, maybe for an industrial-style group. It's "Plowheave." This is the word for the big long pile of chunky snow left on the side of the road by the snowplows. As you might imagine, we had little need for such a word while we lived in Atlanta, since a) it only snows once every 2-3 years, and b) even when it does, I don't think the city even owns a snowplow. Of course, if actual band names qualify, you also must include Crackers' band "I Love My Shih-Tzu"... Any other good album titles/band names out there? Cheers, Beth (still sad that "Elk Bugling Adventure" didn't make the cut... :-)) Beth Meyer bethmeyer@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:35:50 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: album title? Beth Meyer wrote: > (still sad that "Elk Bugling Adventure" didn't make the cut... :-)) One amusing thing I learned before Norwegians became unfunny to me (someday, my sense of humor will return) is that the common Norwegian slang for vomiting is "calling the elk". Maybe I shared this before. I can't remember anymore. Mine is a mind like a cheap K-Mart rip-off of a steel trap. - - Melissa - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:42:11 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: album title? Beth Meyer wrote: > ideally for a pretty hard-edged group, was "Shoefit Wobblehead." I think he > would put that in the "great" category, while I would put it in the "silly" > category... It reminds me of a character name on Monty Python - something of the "Throat-warbler mangrove" variety. > However, there is a word that we both just learned recently that we both > agree would be an awesome band name, maybe for an industrial-style group. > It's "Plowheave." This is the word for the big long pile of chunky snow Dang - I lived in midwestern snow country for ages and never heard that one! Maybe one Mary Brown (if that quiet woman is still with us - ahem!) heard it during her midwestern years... > Of course, if actual band names qualify, you also must include Crackers' > band "I Love My Shih-Tzu"... Oh, but, of course. I have a friend who was in a band called Ubi Sub Ubi (all run together so it sounds like "OobiesuhBOOBie". I'm fond of that one. Cheers, Melissa - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 21:44:09 -0500 From: "Beth Meyer" Subject: RE: Alloy: Engagement - Help! Hi, folks; First of all, congratulations, Dennis! Woo-hoo! So when do the rest of us Colorado Alloyites get to meet the lucky lady? (Perhaps I'll be able to introduce a new family member as well soon -- still no baby yet, but she seems to be rather eager to get out and see the world...) Unfortunately, I don't have any wonderful proposal stories to tell; Mark pretty much asked as soon as he realized he was ready to, which was after a rather ordinary date, sitting on the couch in his apartment. However, I can attest that you truly don't need a big expensive diamond ring, certainly not right away. Both Mark and I always looked askance at those diamond industry commercials saying that you're supposed to spend two months' salary on an engagement ring -- what are you supposed to do, not eat for two months? Sure, the best way to start off your life together is to go waaay into debt, so you can start arguing about money right away....Puh-leeze. So, what I currently have on my finger, after nine years of marriage, is a little pair of silver-and-gold rings, one of which features a ruby. Not my birthstone or anything, but it was inspired by the verse in Proverbs about a good wife being more valuable than rubies. (Not that I have lived up to that passage, mind you!) I'm not sure if it's any more socially conscious than a diamond, but it was only a few hundred dollars and has been much admired over the years. My only other advice, upon thinking about that whole time of life, is to remember that this is yours and Theresa's wedding and marriage -- not your parents', not her parents', not anyone else's. From the proposal through the wedding, I would focus on what is the most meaningful for the two of you, regardless of what other people think. So have fun, be your creative selves, and good luck! Cheers, Beth Beth Meyer bethmeyer@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 20:51:57 -0800 From: Darren Mckeeman Subject: Alloy: Drawn in like a moth Hi there -- I have been observing for some time now and have decided to speak up. I recently subscribed to this mailing list because of the random weirdness that seems to happen with me and Thomas Dolby and airports -- specifically, I met two of the members of this list while waiting for a flight to Phoenix to attend a funeral. I don't know what it is about airports -- I grew up in them (my father works for Delta) and nothing ever quite captured the feel of them for me more than the song 'Flying North'. So imagine my surprise when I'm sitting in an airport with this song going through my head (it always does when I'm in an airport) and I hear someone quoting 'Europa and the Pirate Twins'. I was obliged to finish the lyric for the guy ("She smiled for the camera as a bodyguard grabbed me"), and before he dashed off he gave me the address for this list. I am not really a musician. I'm a UNIX systems admin for Nickelodeon Online in San Mateo (we just moved here) and while I can sight read music and know all the mechanics(thanks to 12 years of violin training), I prety much lack what I call 'soul'. I know what I like, however, and I own everything Mr. Dolby put out, as far as I know. I'm pretty closeted about it, though -- my website is part of the 'Goth' scene and most of my friends (cretins, every one) tease me mercilessly about my Dolby fetish, mostly by screaming 'SCIENCE!' whenever I mention him. I don't know if he's readin' this, but I have to tip my hat to Mr. Dolby -- 'Golden Age' got me through some extremely hairy high school years when I was the lone freak with a purple mohawk crouched in the computer lab learning how to make sounds on a Commodore Pet in 1983-84. And now he haunts me whenever I enter an airport.... D. ============================================ Darren Mckeeman | The eagle may soar, but the weasel weasel@gothic.net | never gets sucked into a jet engine. http://www.gothic.net | -- Simon & Simon ============================================ ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V4 #46 **************************