From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V4 #44 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Wednesday, February 10 1999 Volume 04 : Number 044 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Alloy: Does She Or Doesn't She? ["Ulfstedt, Louise" ] Re: Re: Alloy: A little bird tells me .... [CJMark@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Not fair!! [CJMark@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Amazing thing [CJMark@aol.com] Alloy: Thanks for all the opinions! [MacSuirtain ] Re: Alloy: autoharp ? [CJMark@aol.com] Re: Re: Alloy: autoharp ? [CJMark@aol.com] Re: Alloy: He's going to do it!! [CJMark@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:14:14 +0200 From: "Ulfstedt, Louise" Subject: RE: Alloy: Does She Or Doesn't She? Yeah,...definately sit in it,...! But,...don't leave your gum under the desk! Lissu :-) > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Stansell [SMTP:Keith@Stansell.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 5:05 AM > To: alloy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Alloy: Does She Or Doesn't She? > > > Oh yeah you sit in it! > > Then, from that point on, whenever you see that desk and chair on TV, > history books, whatever , you can smugly think to yourself - "I sat there > once". > > Go for it! > > (but leave the cigars alone) > > -Keith > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 6:37 PM > Subject: Re: Alloy: Does She Or Doesn't She? > > > > > >In a message dated 2/8/99 1:11:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, > wearart@erols.com > >writes: > > > ><< So the question is -- do I sit in the President's chair at The Desk or > > not? >> > > > >Sit in it!! and don't worry about DNA, I'm sure he's had it cleaned. > > > >Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:28:11 +0200 From: "Ulfstedt, Louise" Subject: RE: Alloy: Does She Or Doesn't She? A quick margin note,...the club music market in Europe & the states is DRIVEN by vinyl. Most house & techno releases are on vinyl, and I know of many record shops that don't have a cd in sights,...ironic that some of the most forward thinking music genres use an older technology,...! On the other hand, vinyl does have far superior audio range & quality that digitally recorded CDs,...(especially when it comes to acoustic tracks),... An update about last weeks crisis with my old producer,...fortunately his own lawyer has blown him far out of the water, but I suppose I should thank him for bringing me to my senses about publishing & copyright (yup,..peter,..I'm still getting legal advice). But damn him,..the single's going to be delayed at least a month thanks to him. Bah humbug. :-) Lissu > -----Original Message----- > From: RThurF@aol.com [SMTP:RThurF@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 6:55 AM > To: alloy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Alloy: Does She Or Doesn't She? > > > In a message dated 2/8/99 11:11:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, > wearart@erols.com > writes: > > << The guy who > looked it up for me was 21 and marveled over the stylus and cartridge. > He'd never handled one before. He'd never used a turntable in his > life. He said, "I think my parents had one once." !?!?!? Too weird. > He'd never held an lp or 45 or even seen one up close in his life. >> > > no way! At least dj's still depend on them (those that do scratch/rap > stuff > anyway) The poor waif probably doesn't remember there being a time without > MTV > either, or pc's. When I think back to my own childhood now, I almost see > it in > sepia tones. Your story of trying to find a stylus brought back memories > of > being allowed to carry my own little record player in to get a new needle > for > it when I was around four years old. I still remember the slightly bumpy > texture of the light blue carrying case, and being amazed when the guy at > the > store told me the needle was made of a diamond! I couldn't BELIEVE he was > entrusting such a thing to me :) > > Robin T > only 30.. yet feeling like an historic monument ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 09:45:34 +0000 From: Tim_Dunn.JBA_HEATHROW.SPL_EXTERNAL@jba.co.uk Subject: RE: Alloy: Does She Or Doesn't She? You be careful in that there Oval Office. Actually, don't be careful, and then you can sell your story for millions afterwards......... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 14:07:45 +0000 From: Tim_Dunn.JBA_HEATHROW.SPL_EXTERNAL@jba.co.uk Subject: Alloy: He's going to do it!! Sorry to do a big mail-about like some middle-class christmas letter, but I hope this is a bit cooler!! Well, I went round to see Boz Boorer last night - greatest guitar hero on earth, member of the stupendous Morrissey band, and the kind of guy who can keep a completely straight face while saying things like "I try not to have more than 15 guitars at once." He's a really nice bloke, and much more modest than I'd be if world famous producers kept ringing me up to go and record albums in America because there's no one else better that they know. It was about 10.30 by the time I got there so he suggested straight away that we go down the pub for a pint before closing time, and it was a great honour to buy a pint for the guy who's made most of the best music I've heard for the past five years or so, and who sits down with Morrissey to write songs on a regular basis. I stayed pretty cool sipping my orange juice throughout, which was good as I thought I'd fall down and start worshipping him at any minute. I did of course confess to being a 'mad fan', but he only looked faintly embarrassed, and had some good stories about what real mad fans are like - alot of Morrissey's addicts attach themselves to the band too. He also had a great story about when they went on TOTP to record Roy's Keane (playing live) and they did two perfect takes, after which it was the turn of Hansen, who not only were miming, but they even managed to get all that wrong. Afterwards they heard the young brats' manager instructing the overated dwarfs, "Don't talk to anyone unless I say they're important enough." I kid you not. Alloy section - Keith, thanks for your reassurances - he was as nice as you said! He didn't remember the shoes and socks incident, although he does remember the time in Salt Lake - on that occasion he got picked up by some nutty fans and chauffered around to every record store in town for the day. And, of course - he had a Dolby anecdote. He met him years ago in the States at an 80s thing with Flock of Seagulls and some others, at which Thomas was the MC, being hilarious and wearing a big top hat! Did anybody get to that one??? All Boz remembers is that there was a total sound failure in one side of the mix. Fascinating Morrissey trivia section - This is the weirdest bit - the album Southpaw Grammar, which I've probably forced most of you to listen to at one time or another, and is a tour-de-force of huge loud guitars, was originally conceived as a soft acoustic collection!! Boz played me a little of the this original cut, and it's so strange to hear big stuff like Reader Meet Author done almost Unplugged - they definitely made the right decision to amp the whole thing up to the limit. I also got an exclusive listen to an unreleased track called 'Honey something something something" I can't remember the rest, while Boz sang the vocals in the absence of there being a recorded track. We talked about Jack The Ripper, which is mine and Nadia's and Antony's favourite Moz song, and which Boz wrote the music for, and he told me that Moz was ecstatic with the song and was very keen on rerecording it as a possible a-side, and taking it on tour. Boz had bought a really good phase pedal for the intro in preparation for this, but when the tour came around Moz didn't mention it again. Ah, the mystical ways of the grat one. Guitars section - Boz has got all the guitars in the world. I was priviliged to hold/have a go on his 60s telecaster, on which alot of Southpaw was played, and his '52 Les Paul, which is about as cool as you can get. He also has a 70s Gretsch (his favourite) and sundry others I can't remember. He listed his amps, far too numerous to mention, but I saw alot of lovely looking Fender stuff stacked up to the ceiling in his cupboard. He also has thousands of pedals literally spilling out of every draw, and all of them are rare or antique or special in some way, and normally have a Morrissey anecdote attached to them. When we got back from the pub, he asked to listen to some of my stuff, so I played him Sunny Day, Binary, and Flying North all from the new album, and he didn't seem to hate them - he even started to try and strum along, which was pretty cool. He also played me some of his techno stuff! Rockabilly-techno he called it, but it was still pretty cool. Did I forget to mention that he's agreed to produce my album? Well, he said he was looing forward to it, and will be able to fit me in for a couple of days in April, or sooner, if Spider from The Pogues cancels his bookings!! I hope this isn't too boring, but if it was you've already given up reading, so that's OK. See you soon Tim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:03:25 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: RE: Alloy: Does She Or Doesn't She? Forget about having your picture taken sitting in the chair. I'd go with having your picture taken on your knees infront of the chair. ;) CRACKERS (hail to the chief from hell!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:57:15 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Alloy: A little bird tells me .... Happy Birthday.. Lissu!! Sorry it's late.. but I haven't been able to get online for awhile!! Hope it was the best one! Ciao for now.. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:07:19 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Not fair!! Dear Paul... So sorry to hear of your loss!! That is the most vile thing of all.. to have your personal collection of music stolen.. If I come across anything Dolby in the bins I'll pick it up to send your way... Hang in there.. and ciao for now. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:08:55 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Amazing thing Hey Tim.. What a great opportunity.. !! All my best for a great recording.. and by the way.. when should we look forward to hearing it? Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:59:00 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Alloy: Thanks for all the opinions! Well, looks like the consensus is "sit in the president's big leather chair!" So, I'll give it a try - I wonder what happens if you get busted. Guess I'll find out, eh? Crackers - I will refrain from kneeling in front of the big leather chair ("It's been done, darling" she said, channeling some aloof, sophisticated 1930's film star), but your suggestion got a giant EEWWWW and then a real belly laugh from me. Going to the taping of "Politically Incorrect in DC" tomorrow night - hopefully there'll be a good group of guests... Cheers, Melissa - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:57:24 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: autoharp ? Peter.. The autoharp.. I was around 16 or so when I picked up my mom's autoharp and started inventing my own chord progressions.. In a few weeks I was pounding away on the thing.. finding a wierd rock sound in the percussion while just pressing the bars down didn't take much musical knowledge.. just an ear to put the chords together. Finally.. I had to pick up my father's guitar and start to play it to get the more subtle chords I wanted to hear. So by the time I was 18 I was playing guitar and the autoharp had gone back into its case.. but I know it was the autoharp that led to my musical ambitions.. which carried me for another 15 years. Autoharps are cool.. Ciao for now.. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:06:50 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Alloy: autoharp ? Peter.. The autoharp playing description that Crackers gave is the proper playing position.. however.. I found it a lot more fun to set the thing right on my lap and play it upside down.. that way I could strum across the strings with more enthusiasm.. which at 16 is an important thing... It seemed much more vital that way.. Either way.. enjoy the sound! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:19:40 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: He's going to do it!! Hey Tim.. Sounds like a truly great day.. glad to hear things are moving ahead with such obvious enthusiasm!! If you can't have fun.. why do it? Ciao for now.. Mark ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V4 #44 **************************