From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V4 #37 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Wednesday, February 3 1999 Volume 04 : Number 037 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Och aye the noo, mon & other unnecessary stereotypes [John_Hanson_] RE: Alloy: Lissu's Dilemma ["Ulfstedt, Louise" ] Re[2]: Alloy: Shabby Rd [John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.] RE: Re[2]: Alloy: Shabby Rd [Peter Fitzpatrick ] Re: Alloy: fwd: Lorraine Hariton Appointed President and CEO of Headspace [Kathleen Truelove ] Alloy: The Big Squeazy: Accordionists Unite! [Chris Cracknell ] Re: Alloy: The Big Squeazy: Accordionists Unite! [MacSuirtain ] Re: Alloy: The Big Squeazy: Accordionists Unite! [Kathleen Truelove ] RE: Alloy: autoharp ? [Peter Fitzpatrick ] Re: Alloy: Re: Golden Age [Brian Clayton ] Re: Alloy: autoharp ? [Chris Cracknell ] Re: Alloy: The Big Squeazy: Accordionists Unite! [Chris Cracknell Subject: RE: Alloy: Lissu's Dilemma Hi john! What a bastard that guy is!!,...lets send him some e-mail, shall we,...or can you tell his service provider what the twit is doing,...! Melissa,...so glad you got your own back on that woman,....why are they so many people without scruples or consience out there? My Polish friend just told me that his girlfriend back home has had her doctoral thesis stolen just before she's finished it, and she can't do a thing about it,...her professor's niece is the one who did the dirty deed and has put her name on the work, and her professor told her that she'll loose her job there if she squeals on them. DAMMIT! Let's just hope that what goes round comes round, as my mum always puts it,....almost makes me wish I believed in hell,...I really hope these people get what they deserve someday. Grrrr. trying to cool down,.... Lissu > -----Original Message----- > From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com > [SMTP:John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 1:41 AM > To: alloy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Alloy: Lissu's Dilemma > > Melissa doth write... > > >Good karma, bad karma, Lissu. I'm directing lots of good karma toward > >you. You can guess where the bad karma's going. > > And send a bit to the guy who's plagiarized my wonderful Red Star 93 > site!!! Hope he comes back as Glenn Hoddle in a future life ! > > A+ > > John << File: cc:Mail note part >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:11:43 +0200 From: "Ulfstedt, Louise" Subject: RE: Alloy: fwd: Lorraine Hariton Appointed President and CEO of H eadspace Wow! That would be really great wouldn't it! I think it's about time that he got some time off, and then some time to be creative! And am I the only one who thought of the words of "Close, but no cigar" when seeing the name of the new company president? Poor lass,...I bet she get's ribbed for that one! ho hum,...back to work! Lissu > -----Original Message----- > From: MacSuirtain [SMTP:wearart@erols.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 1:31 AM > To: alloy@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Alloy: fwd: Lorraine Hariton Appointed President and CEO > of Headspace > > > RThurF@aol.com wrote: > > ...Thomas Dolby Robertson, who will retain the title chief beatnik of > Headspace... > > Wow. Wonder if this means the Chief Beatnik will have a wee bit more > time to be musical????? > > :-) > > What a nice thought. > > Cheers, > > Melissa > > -- > Melissa R. Jordan > Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios > Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts > http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:31:16 -0600 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Re[2]: Alloy: Lissu's Dilemma - --IMA.Boundary.3464308190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Hello All !! I don't think that sending this guy unpleasant mails will help, cos he'll most likely come looking for me at the next Red Star match with his mates & give me a bloody good kicking ! I'm going to do nothing, cos it'll only aggravate the situation & I don't want any bother. Besides, he's only had 50 visitors since Jan 1st & I've had 800; I was there first (smug mode) & I've got a loyal audience. Besides, he'll probably get bored with it before me when he realizes how hard it is to do a site on football (two, in reality, French & English). So no nasty mails, chaps ! A+ John >Hi john! >What a bastard that guy is!!,...lets send him some e-mail, shall we,...or >can you tell his service provider what the twit is doing,...! PS I'm in smug mode - imitation is the nicest form of flattery. - --IMA.Boundary.3464308190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from ns1.baxter.com ([159.198.180.56]) by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 3.11) id 000EA55D; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:14:03 -0600 Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.128.1.71]) by ns1.baxter.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA15976 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:13:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from smoe.org (080020908e73.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.204.144]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id EAA04927; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 04:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id EAA28534; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 04:06:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Wed, 3 Feb 1999 04:06:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id EAA28521 for alloy-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 04:06:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from teleste.fi (root@teleste.fi [212.213.16.8]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id EAA28517 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 04:05:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from obelix.teleste.fi ([212.213.16.9]:19469 "EHLO obelix.teleste.fi" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by teleste.fi with ESMTP id <291274-24945>; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:30:24 +0200 Received: by obelix.teleste.fi with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:01:13 +0200 Message-ID: <514B833CB5E4D1118E320008C724B24B667DD4@obelix.teleste.fi> From: "Ulfstedt, Louise" To: "'alloy@smoe.org'" Subject: RE: Alloy: Lissu's Dilemma Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:01:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-alloy@smoe.org Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.3464308190-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:56:38 +0000 From: Tim_Dunn.JBA_HEATHROW.SPL_EXTERNAL@jba.co.uk Subject: Alloy: Shabby Rd Your studio looks really great - I can only dream of something like that!! However, your name has been used before! You may not have heard them, but there's a wonderful band called the Trashcan Sinatras who record in Shabby Road studios they built themselves in Kilmarnock. They've recorded three great albums there, so you're following in the grandest of footsteps! the_copse ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:42:22 -0000 From: Peter Fitzpatrick Subject: RE: Alloy: Shabby Rd yeah - I found out after I had registered the domain....I got the name from the Rutles.....they were bigger than Rod you know.... - -----Original Message----- From: Tim_Dunn.JBA_HEATHROW.SPL_EXTERNAL@jba.co.uk [mailto:Tim_Dunn.JBA_HEATHROW.SPL_EXTERNAL@jba.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 10:57 AM To: alloy@smoe.org Subject: Alloy: Shabby Rd Your studio looks really great - I can only dream of something like that!! However, your name has been used before! You may not have heard them, but there's a wonderful band called the Trashcan Sinatras who record in Shabby Road studios they built themselves in Kilmarnock. They've recorded three great albums there, so you're following in the grandest of footsteps! the_copse ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:54:51 -0600 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Re[2]: Alloy: Shabby Rd - --IMA.Boundary.2563408190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Peter scribeth thus >yeah - I found out after I had registered the domain....I got the name from >the Rutles.....they were bigger than Rod you know.... How do you register a domain & how much does it cost ? At the moment I get mine free from multimania, but www.redstar.fr looks more impressive, and I would get the name befor the club does an official site !!! A+ John - --IMA.Boundary.2563408190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from ns1.baxter.com ([159.198.180.56]) by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 3.11) id 000EADFF; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 05:48:24 -0600 Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.128.1.71]) by ns1.baxter.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA19282 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 05:48:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from smoe.org (080020908e73.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.204.144]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA00411; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:44:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id GAA01153; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:43:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:43:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id GAA01137 for alloy-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:42:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1D.dns.microsoft.com (etide03.microsoft.com [207.46.36.9]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id GAA01130 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 06:42:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by DUB-IMC-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <110NPT57>; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:42:26 -0000 Message-ID: From: Peter Fitzpatrick To: "'alloy@smoe.org'" Subject: RE: Alloy: Shabby Rd Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:42:22 -0000 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-alloy@smoe.org Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.2563408190-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:31:26 -0000 From: Peter Fitzpatrick Subject: RE: Re[2]: Alloy: Shabby Rd Well, it's something I do on the side for local business and I normally charge them for it. But here's the secret : it's dead easy !! There are many ways to do this but the most simple way is to do what I do : I use http://www.valueweb.net they're based in the USA (better overall than basing in Europe IMHO). You can check to see if your domain name is available but because you're choosing to use .fr domain it's a little more complex. (for a start you have to be registered with a French Chamber of Commerce etc etc). www.redstar.com has already been taken... If you can find a domain name that hasn't been taken you simply fill out an online form, give them a credit card number & they will process the whole thing for you. The only charges that apply are the standard $75 internic setup charges and the annual/bi-annual re-registration fees. Valueweb can then host the entire site for you and because they have Frontpage Extensions you can use that as your authoring tool - great if (like me) you can't (or don't want to learn) program. - -Peter - -----Original Message----- From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com [mailto:John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 6:55 PM To: 'alloy@smoe.org' Subject: Re[2]: Alloy: Shabby Rd Peter scribeth thus >yeah - I found out after I had registered the domain....I got the name from >the Rutles.....they were bigger than Rod you know.... How do you register a domain & how much does it cost ? At the moment I get mine free from multimania, but www.redstar.fr looks more impressive, and I would get the name befor the club does an official site !!! A+ John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 09:12:40 -0800 From: Kathleen Truelove Subject: Re: Alloy: fwd: Lorraine Hariton Appointed President and CEO of Headspace Crackers, What a coincidence, I play the accordion too. I used to street perform on the Third Street Promenade in Santa Monica, Calif. I took professional lessons for four years when I was a kid. What kind of music do you play? I love to play Italian, Jewish, big band and swing. Pax Aye, Kate;) Chris Cracknell wrote: > In article <36B78AC6.DB8CE6E1@erols.com>, you wrote: > >RThurF@aol.com wrote: > >> ...Thomas Dolby Robertson, who will retain the title chief beatnik of Headspace... > > > >Wow. Wonder if this means the Chief Beatnik will have a wee bit more > >time to be musical????? > ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ > > This coupled with his birthday message would make me think that perhaps > he intends to focus once again on making music. I've got my fingers > crossed. If you need any accordion Thomas, I'm yours for a cold beer! > > CRACKERS > (Can't wait for the new CD from hell!!!!!) > > -- > > Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan > * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * > * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * > Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 09:17:25 -0800 From: Kathleen Truelove Subject: Re: Alloy: if it's not scottish.. Robin, Actually after going to many highland games and meeting many types of people, I can truthfully say that the Robertson name is a sept family name of the scottish clan of Donnachaidh. Now, maybe the Donnachaidhs were loyalists to the English crown. Also, maybe way back when, some of the families or clan members moved to England for one reason or the other. But, if you go to a Scottish Highland Games event and look and the clan boothes, there's a very good chance of finding the Donnachaidh clan. I hate to go off like this. It's just that I know quite a few Robertsons who are quite proud of their Scottish heritage. Pax Aye, Kate;) RThurF@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/2/99 8:46:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, > Kathleen.McClelland@online.disney.com writes: > > << I still think he oughta check out the history of his last name. Might > find a Scottish connection somewhere. >> > > i don't know, Robertson sounds like it could be your basic English name. I > have a name (well my maiden name) which is a verrry old English name from the > north of England but lots of people think it sounds German, there is a > seperate line of people from Germany whose family name morphed into an exact > facsimile of ours somewhere along the way, but there is no relation. > > Dave took my wad of paper away that was propping up the one corner of this > keyboard, and now it's bouncing diagonally as I type. I need to make a new > paper wad now. > > Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 09:18:45 -0800 From: Kathleen Truelove Subject: Re: Alloy: Och aye the noo, mon & other unnecessary stereotypes John, Thank you for agreeing with me. Slainte, Kate;) John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com wrote: > Some famous Scottish Robertsons for you: > > Brian Robertson, guitarist with Thin Lizzy > John Robertson, footballer with Derby, Nottingham Forest & Scotland. > > Ther must be 1001 famous Robertsons having played rugby for Scotland > too & I'm sure that there was a Robbie Robertson who presented TV > travel programs in the 70's (Slarv, help !) > > John (who's part Welsh) > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 11:01:42 -0800 From: Kathleen Truelove Subject: Re: Alloy: wondering.. Robin, Congrats to your sister. I'm not connected Disney World in Florida unfortunately. What does she do there? I test the software content that Disney Online puts on their website in multiple browsers, browser versions and mac and pc platforms. Pax Aye, Kate;) RThurF@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/1/99 8:42:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, > Kathleen.McClelland@online.disney.com writes: > > << Don't feel bad, I didn't know who really wrote it either. >> > > thanks, though I still think I need an assistant :) > By the way Kate, I had wanted to mention that my sister in Florida was just > hired on as Disney in Orlando! Maybe the two of you will cross paths one day. > Is there much of a network between the two locations? > Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:05:19 -0000 From: Peter Fitzpatrick Subject: Alloy: autoharp ? it doesn't get much further away from Dolby than this... I took delivery of an Autoharp today. Does anyone on the list play this ? If so........how ? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:47:20 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Alloy: The Big Squeazy: Accordionists Unite! In article <36B88388.5D6887FD@online.disney.com>, you wrote: >Crackers, >What a coincidence, I play the accordion too. I used to street perform on the Third >Street Promenade in Santa Monica, Calif. I took professional lessons for four years when >I was a kid. What kind of music do you play? I love to play Italian, Jewish, big band and >swing. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ I'm usually hired to play celtic stuff as Hamilton has a huge Irish/Scottish population and a huge population of folk musicians. Actually Hamilton has more musicians per capita of any place in Canada. I like the celtic stuff but my true love is Cajun/Zydeco music. I'm playing a Mardi Gras show on the 14th and I can't wait. I love playing Cajun/Zydeco music. I also enjoy playing Klezmer music and have done a few shows playing this kind of music. I'm the accordionist/keyboardist/flutist for a Hamilton Punk-A-Billy band called "I Love My Shih-Tzu". I love playing with these guys and although I still take all the session/jobber work I can get it's great to actually belong to a real live band again. (You can find a link the the "I Love My Shih-Tzu" webpage on my webpage) I started my musical career as a keyboardist but switched only a few years ago to accordion. I'm much, much happier as an accordionist than I was as a keyboardist. For one thing I get a lot more work. In a city with the highest number of musicians per capita of anywhere else in my country you can't throw a rock without hitting another keyboardist. That's a lot of competition for session/jobber work. But there are only 3 other professional accordionists in Hamilton that I know of and when it comes to playing Cajun/Zydeco I blow them all away. So the work has been pretty steady. But one of the real reasons I am happier as an accordionist than I ever was as a keyboardist is because when I switched focus from keyboards to accordion I let my subscription to Keyboard Magazine drop. Suddenly I was no longer being bombarded by ads and articles saying "If you don't have the latest XYZ-2002 gizmotronic keyboard you'll never make it in the music biz." This really sucks when you can't afford the XYZ-2002. Once free from the seductive siren song of ads and articles for expensive music toys I began to feel a lot better about myself and my talent. There are a lot of people who buy all the hype concerning keyboards that you're not a real musician unless you have what's hip (be it the latest piece of technology or outrageously priced vintage gear) but when it comes to accordion people pay attention to what you play, not what you're playing it on so you're standing on your own talents not the hype associated with the gear you're using. So my $20 Hohner accordion gets more respect than my outdated synths because people are focusing on my talent not my gear. This doesn't mean that I don't lust after better accordions. You can easily plop down $14K for a real kick-ass accordion, but by and large people won't look down on you if you own a cheap one as long as you can play. I also go busking each summer. I love busking. Nothing like getting paid to practice. :) Plus, the city of Hamilton actually pays buskers $20/hour to go out and busk, and in some locations you can make another $40-$50/hour from change (Canada has a $1 and $2 coin which has been REALLY good for buskers!) CRACKERS (Yo-ho-ho-ho a busker's life for me from hell!!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 14:50:12 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: autoharp ? Peter Fitzpatrick wrote: > > it doesn't get much further away from Dolby than this... > I took delivery of an Autoharp today. Zowa - I haven't thought about autoharps in ages! For some reason, we used autoharps in grade school music class back in the 70's... I remember playing (along with about 40 other autoharping kids) "Poor Wayfaring Stranger" at the Moline 6th Grade Festival in 1977. I recall that my autoharp technique was lame, at best. How and why are you in possession of an autoharp, Peter? Are you a collector of interesting instruments? I used to collect musical instruments when I lived in Russia because items made by master craftsmen were dirt cheap. I had - don't laugh - a zylophone, a bass balalaika (and five small balalaikas), a Tadzhik sitar, Uzbek tambourines, and an Egyptian drum in my dining room for ages. Odd things for someone who can't read music to collect, but a hell of a lot of fun for parties... Cheers, Melissa - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 15:07:06 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: The Big Squeazy: Accordionists Unite! Chris Cracknell wrote: > I'm usually hired to play celtic stuff as Hamilton has a huge Irish/Scottish > population and a huge population of folk musicians. Actually Hamilton has > more musicians per capita of any place in Canada. I like the celtic stuff > but my true love is Cajun/Zydeco music. I'm playing a Mardi Gras show Wish I could come up and hear you play -- your interpretation of "Nuvogue" gets a lot of play time in my car! > on the 14th and I can't wait. I love playing Cajun/Zydeco music. I also enjoy > playing Klezmer music and have done a few shows playing this kind of music. Have a favorite Klezmer band, Crackers? I clean house to the music of The Klezmatics (either "Rhythm + Jews" or "Shvaygn = Toyt") ...and if I didn't have downstairs neighbors, I'd dance to it! And, if I'm still in Washington this summer, I'm looking forward to the Wolftrap Cajun Swamp Romp - a full day of Zydeco joy. I hope, hope, hope that Beausoleil comes again. God, they're fantastic live. I don't remember if I ever mentioned this before (so, if I did, kick me in the head and tell me to shut up), but, during Moscow days, I started listening to Ofra Haza and Beausoleil because I was intrigued by the descriptions of their music in the Shanachie Records catalogue. Ofra Haza's "Fifty Gates of Wisdom" and Beausoleil's "Hot Chili Mama" became mainstays of my party music. When I got back to the 'States and got ahold of a copy of "Astronauts & Heretics" (I'd been waiting for a long time - I heard "Silk Pyjamas" one night on Russian radio and just about freaked out), I was tickled pink to see that Our Fearless Leader had been working with both Ofra Haza and Michel Doucet. The man has good taste. - - Melissa - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:20:04 -0800 (PST) From: Elaine Linstruth Subject: RE: Alloy: (my webcam at Shabbyroad) Every year we have a nest (last year, two) of baby birds born in the eaves right outside our back door. It's perfect for a baby-bird-cam, but so far we can't get ADSL, and the ISDN charges would be astronomical since we're this-far out of the central office loop to the ISP. But I love looking at all your cool webcams! Mel, you'll have to tell us the Moscow site, it sounds worth checking out. There's one in San Francisco atop an old hotel too, but every time I look it seems to be foggy. - -- Elaine Linstruth Palmdale, CA (USA) On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Peter Fitzpatrick wrote: > webcams : great tips and FAQ at http://www.dcn.com yes, you typically > need a live connection to the 'net. a video capture card. a website > that allows FTP access (or an FTP site you can use and then link to > the image(s) via html, a video camera is of course useful. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 12:45:04 -0800 From: Kathleen Truelove Subject: Re: Alloy: The Big Squeazy: Accordionists Unite! Chris, 20$ an hour is more than I ever made. Accordions are not such a big hit in California. I don't busk anymore due to the fact that I'm involved in so many other things at present, I would not sound that good on the street. I totally agree with you on the fact of being rated by how you play then by what kind of instrument you have. I used to have high musical aspirations until I realized that I needed to be with my kids more than I needed to make it somehow in the music business. Thus these days I'll pick my accordion every once in awhile to play and feel like a musician again. Kinda wish I lived in Canada though. Pax Aye, Kate;) Chris Cracknell wrote: > In article <36B88388.5D6887FD@online.disney.com>, you wrote: > >Crackers, > >What a coincidence, I play the accordion too. I used to street perform on the Third > >Street Promenade in Santa Monica, Calif. I took professional lessons for four years when > >I was a kid. What kind of music do you play? I love to play Italian, Jewish, big band and > >swing. > ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ > > I'm usually hired to play celtic stuff as Hamilton has a huge Irish/Scottish > population and a huge population of folk musicians. Actually Hamilton has > more musicians per capita of any place in Canada. I like the celtic stuff > but my true love is Cajun/Zydeco music. I'm playing a Mardi Gras show > on the 14th and I can't wait. I love playing Cajun/Zydeco music. I also enjoy > playing Klezmer music and have done a few shows playing this kind of music. > I'm the accordionist/keyboardist/flutist for a Hamilton Punk-A-Billy band > called "I Love My Shih-Tzu". I love playing with these guys and although > I still take all the session/jobber work I can get it's great to actually > belong to a real live band again. (You can find a link the the "I Love My > Shih-Tzu" webpage on my webpage) > > I started my musical career as a keyboardist but switched only a few years > ago to accordion. I'm much, much happier as an accordionist than I was as > a keyboardist. For one thing I get a lot more work. In a city with the > highest number of musicians per capita of anywhere else in my country you > can't throw a rock without hitting another keyboardist. That's a lot of > competition for session/jobber work. But there are only 3 other professional > accordionists in Hamilton that I know of and when it comes to playing > Cajun/Zydeco I blow them all away. So the work has been pretty steady. > But one of the real reasons I am happier as an accordionist than I ever > was as a keyboardist is because when I switched focus from keyboards > to accordion I let my subscription to Keyboard Magazine drop. Suddenly I > was no longer being bombarded by ads and articles saying "If you don't have > the latest XYZ-2002 gizmotronic keyboard you'll never make it in the music > biz." This really sucks when you can't afford the XYZ-2002. Once free from > the seductive siren song of ads and articles for expensive music toys I > began to feel a lot better about myself and my talent. There are a lot of > people who buy all the hype concerning keyboards that you're not a real > musician unless you have what's hip (be it the latest piece of technology > or outrageously priced vintage gear) but when it comes to accordion people > pay attention to what you play, not what you're playing it on so you're > standing on your own talents not the hype associated with the gear you're > using. So my $20 Hohner accordion gets more respect than my outdated > synths because people are focusing on my talent not my gear. This doesn't > mean that I don't lust after better accordions. You can easily plop down > $14K for a real kick-ass accordion, but by and large people won't look down > on you if you own a cheap one as long as you can play. > > I also go busking each summer. I love busking. Nothing like getting paid to > practice. :) Plus, the city of Hamilton actually pays buskers $20/hour > to go out and busk, and in some locations you can make another $40-$50/hour > from change (Canada has a $1 and $2 coin which has been REALLY good for > buskers!) > > CRACKERS > (Yo-ho-ho-ho a busker's life for me from hell!!!) > > -- > > Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan > * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * > * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * > Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:27:19 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: The Big Squeazy: Accordionists Unite! In a message dated 2/3/99 3:07:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, wearart@erols.com writes: << Have a favorite Klezmer band, Crackers? I clean house to the music of The Klezmatics (either "Rhythm + Jews" or "Shvaygn = Toyt") ...and if I didn't have downstairs neighbors, I'd dance to it!>> Are the Klezmatics the guys who did the Klezmer version of Tchaikovsky's The Nutcracker? If so.. I am in love with their work! <> I can remember meeting Michel Doucet, my dad took me to hear him ages & ages ago (my dad played bluegrass & took me out to see his favorite musicians in small venues here & there whenever he could) I was really happy to find Mr Doucet working with Thomas later on A&H. Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:31:23 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: (my webcam at Shabbyroad) On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Peter Fitzpatrick wrote: > webcams : great tips and FAQ at http://www.dcn.com yes, you typically > need a live connection to the 'net. a video capture card. a website > that allows FTP access (or an FTP site you can use and then link to > the image(s) via html, a video camera is of course useful. >> Thanks for the information, Peter. I'll have to look into this some more. Maybe I should just keep an online journal instead. Like I can even manage to keep a real one! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 23:59:49 +0000 From: "I T Admin @ Govt Office North West" Subject: Re: Alloy: autoharp ? At 19:05 03/02/99 -0000, you wrote: > >it doesn't get much further away from Dolby than this... >I took delivery of an Autoharp today. > >Does anyone on the list play this ? If so........how ? > > LOL. You bought the thing and NOW you want to know how to play it? E-mail Billy Connolly and ask for lessons. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:20:00 -0000 From: Peter Fitzpatrick Subject: RE: Alloy: autoharp ? if I had Billy's email add. I'd be on to him like a light ! he's the very reason I bought the thing : it was advertised in the Irish equivalent of LOOT (small ads paper) and was cheap. the same old lady has offered me a small, portable pedal organ as used by a (her words) "roaving Paisleyite preaching minister" I'm still trying to get my head around the Mandolin my darling wife got me for Christmas... =P - -----Original Message----- From: I T Admin @ Govt Office North West [mailto:help.gonw.st@gtnet.gov.uk] Sent: 04 February 1999 00:00 To: alloy@smoe.org Subject: Re: Alloy: autoharp ? At 19:05 03/02/99 -0000, you wrote: > >it doesn't get much further away from Dolby than this... >I took delivery of an Autoharp today. > >Does anyone on the list play this ? If so........how ? > > LOL. You bought the thing and NOW you want to know how to play it? E-mail Billy Connolly and ask for lessons. Slarv ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 00:22:29 -0000 From: Peter Fitzpatrick Subject: RE: Alloy: autoharp ? Like I said in the other mail....found it in a paper advert. I'm starting to build up a nice little collection of instruments. When I was in Mexico City on business a coupld of years back I bought some percussion instruments. got a mandolin at christmas and now the autoharp. if I could use 'em on some of my recordings that would be cool. My theory is that the poorer I am at playing them the simpler (and therefore "better") the songs will be.... crazy I know...but I'm happy in my little world.... - -----Original Message----- From: MacSuirtain [mailto:wearart@erols.com] Sent: 03 February 1999 19:50 To: alloy@smoe.org Subject: Re: Alloy: autoharp ? Peter Fitzpatrick wrote: > > it doesn't get much further away from Dolby than this... > I took delivery of an Autoharp today. Zowa - I haven't thought about autoharps in ages! For some reason, we used autoharps in grade school music class back in the 70's... I remember playing (along with about 40 other autoharping kids) "Poor Wayfaring Stranger" at the Moline 6th Grade Festival in 1977. I recall that my autoharp technique was lame, at best. How and why are you in possession of an autoharp, Peter? Are you a collector of interesting instruments? I used to collect musical instruments when I lived in Russia because items made by master craftsmen were dirt cheap. I had - don't laugh - a zylophone, a bass balalaika (and five small balalaikas), a Tadzhik sitar, Uzbek tambourines, and an Egyptian drum in my dining room for ages. Odd things for someone who can't read music to collect, but a hell of a lot of fun for parties... Cheers, Melissa - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:11:50 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Clayton Subject: Re: Alloy: Re: Golden Age > Next question: both pressings of the CD have the electronic version of "Radio > Silence." Has the rock version ever been released on any CD? Nope, that version is only on vinyl, so far. It is one of many "rare" tracks we hope Thomas will release on CD someday. BC - --- Brian Clayton "Anyway, it's not me that's mad, it's the rest stemish@kumr.lns.com of the world. Aaaaaaaahh!" -- TMDR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:06:06 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: autoharp ? In article , you wrote: >it doesn't get much further away from Dolby than this... >I took delivery of an Autoharp today. > >Does anyone on the list play this ? If so........how ? ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ I don't own one but I have played one. It's probably one of the easiest instruments in the world to play (that and it's electronic cousin the Omniharp). If you can read you can play. Prop it up on your thigh, hug it close to your chest with your left hand on the buttons, then strum the top with your right hand. Press the buttons and that's the chord you get. Very simple. I was going to get one for my wife to play. I was thinking of getting the Omnichord with midi-out. CRACKERS (Super easy from hell!!!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:06:07 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Cracknell Subject: Re: Alloy: The Big Squeazy: Accordionists Unite! In article <36B8AC6A.E9EDE6F1@erols.com>, you wrote: >Wish I could come up and hear you play -- your interpretation of >"Nuvogue" gets a lot of play time in my car! ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Well once the new Shih-Tzu album is finished it will probably replace the old one currently online at the Shih-tzu page as MPGs. You'll get to hear me again. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ >Have a favorite Klezmer band, Crackers? I clean house to the music of >The Klezmatics (either "Rhythm + Jews" or "Shvaygn = Toyt") ...and if I >didn't have downstairs neighbors, I'd dance to it! ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ Nope, no particular favorites. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ >mainstays of my party music. When I got back to the 'States and got >ahold of a copy of "Astronauts & Heretics" (I'd been waiting for a long >time - I heard "Silk Pyjamas" one night on Russian radio and just about >freaked out), I was tickled pink to see that Our Fearless Leader had >been working with both Ofra Haza and Michel Doucet. The man has good >taste. ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ The Zydeco stuff on A&H makes it one of my favorite Thomas Dolby albums. And always remember: The key to playing Cajun music is knowing when to play the wrong note. CRACKERS (Slurpee and a Bun-Fu dog from hell!!!) - -- Collector of Atari 2600 carts - Accordionist - Bira Bira Devotee - Anime fan * http://www.hwcn.org/~ad329/crab.html | Crackers' Arts Base * * http://www.angelfire.com/ma/hozervideo/index.html | Hozer Video Games * Nihongo ga dekimasu - 2600 programmer - Father of 2 great kids - Canadian eh ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V4 #37 **************************