From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V4 #25 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Sunday, January 24 1999 Volume 04 : Number 025 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Alloy: Sorry, but the Earth just isn't flat [John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmail] Re: Alloy: Sorry, but the Earth just isn't flat [RThurF@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Sorry, but the Earth just isn't flat ["Guy Story, KC5GOI" ] RE: Alloy: Sorry, but the Earth just isn't flat [Brian Clayton ] Re: Alloy: Thomas Speaks [Brian Clayton ] Re: Alloy: Thomas Speaks [RThurF@aol.com] Alloy: Question for Thomas and the group ["Guy Story, KC5GOI" > John, this is REALLY cool..! The numbers seem fairly accurate (trying to think how long it takes me to walk a mile, and multiply it by these distances.. it would take me slightly more than 84 days of continuous walking to get to Turku Finland from Boston if I could walk it in a straight line!) Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:53:05 -0600 From: "Guy Story, KC5GOI" Subject: Re: Alloy: Sorry, but the Earth just isn't flat John, what format do you want the cooridnates in? I can send you mine if you want. I am in Texas. - -----Original Message----- From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com To: alloy@smoe.org Date: Saturday, January 23, 1999 6:18 AM Subject: Alloy: Sorry, but the Earth just isn't flat > > > Hello chaps & chapesses & thanks for the coordinates.. Tim, yours is > incomplete, by the way. I programmed the GPS & here is a quick > summary.. > > > ME-LISSU 1128 miles > ME-ROBINT 3468 > ME-SLARV 374 > ME-ROBYNM 5161 > > LISSU-ROBINT 3879 > LISSU-SLARV 1045 > LISSU-ROBYNM 4895 > > ROBINT-SLARV 3176 > ROBINT-ROBYNM 2543 > > SLARV-ROBYNM 4789 > > Do these figures seem realistic ? To me they seem a bit "under". > Anyway, Lissu lives in Turku Finland, RobinT somewhere near Boston MA, > Slarv in north-west UK (haven't got an OS map of Manchester), Robynm > in Portland Oregon and I live in Paris, France. Right ? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:59:25 -0500 From: "Beth Meyer" Subject: RE: Alloy: Sorry, but the Earth just isn't flat Hi, folks; Well, I finally had time to try out that Mapblast site and get my current coordinates -- mostly just to see how close they ended up being to Keith's. Pretty close, it looks like. They are: Latitude 39.922647 Longitude -105.088899 That's for my temporary apartment in Broomfield, which is about halfway between Boulder and Denver. (Keith's coordinates, for reference, were: Latitude 39.729437, Longitude 104.920283) By the way, it looks like if someone dropped a modest nuclear bomb on Denver (perhaps a coterie of irate Atlanta Falcons fans? :-)), Keith would be toast, but I would be relatively spared the direct effect, because the fallout would probably head east and I'm to the west (love those eastbound 70 mph winds coming off the mountains!). However, I won't tell the Boulder residents -- they're smug enough already ;-) Cheers, Beth Beth Meyer bethmeyer@mindspring.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 12:07:16 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Thomas Speaks I tried going to << http://www.soundz.com/feature/sndzite/tdolby/tdolby.ram >> I was finally going to get to listen to the whole thing because I am home by myself all morning, packing our stuff for our upcoming move.. but the site now seems to be gone. Which leads me to think.. Erm.. was this recording a BOOTLEG by any chance??!!! I idiotically assumed at first (good old un-worldly me) that Dolby must have been aware of the taping, but now that I think of it, it follows that if Dolby wanted such a thing on the web it would have been accessable via his own site. This kind of thing IMHO falls along the same lines as 'collecting' personal property of others & is predatory, ghoulish and frightening as all hell. Specifically in the case of this lecture, recording it & putting it on the web without permission infringes on Thomas' rights to present Headspace/Beatnik to the public in a way that he might wish it to be presented. If people have heard this already they may decide not to attend a real lecture in the future, where more detailed information about the company would doubtlessly be made available, thus denying Headspace public exposure of the type they want, and resulting in possible loss of revenue for the company which could directly damage Thomas. I seethingly despise bootleggers and people who feel they have to exploit others for their own stupid personal gains or self esteem or to add to their 'collections' of unauthorised stuff. Folks who do this sort of thing are creepily unaware of the situations and/or feelings of those they are preying off of! Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:24:50 -0600 From: "Guy Story, KC5GOI" Subject: Re: Alloy: Thomas Speaks I listened to it this week and it was great. I have tried to go to even just www.soundz.com and that is even not responding. Guy - -----Original Message----- From: RThurF@aol.com To: alloy@smoe.org Date: Saturday, January 23, 1999 11:14 AM Subject: Re: Alloy: Thomas Speaks > >I tried going to > ><< http://www.soundz.com/feature/sndzite/tdolby/tdolby.ram >> > >I was finally going to get to listen to the whole thing because I am home by >myself all morning, packing our stuff for our upcoming move.. but the site now >seems to be gone. Which leads me to think.. > >Erm.. was this recording a BOOTLEG by any chance??!!! I idiotically assumed at >first (good old un-worldly me) that Dolby must have been aware of the taping, >but now that I think of it, it follows that if Dolby wanted such a thing on >the web it would have been accessable via his own site. > >This kind of thing IMHO falls along the same lines as 'collecting' personal >property of others & is predatory, ghoulish and frightening as all hell. >Specifically in the case of this lecture, recording it & putting it on the web >without permission infringes on Thomas' rights to present Headspace/Beatnik to >the public in a way that he might wish it to be presented. If people have >heard this already they may decide not to attend a real lecture in the future, >where more detailed information about the company would doubtlessly be made >available, thus denying Headspace public exposure of the type they want, and >resulting in possible loss of revenue for the company which could directly >damage Thomas. > >I seethingly despise bootleggers and people who feel they have to exploit >others for their own stupid personal gains or self esteem or to add to their >'collections' of unauthorised stuff. Folks who do this sort of thing are >creepily unaware of the situations and/or feelings of those they are preying >off of! > >Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:39:49 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) From: Brian Clayton Subject: RE: Alloy: Sorry, but the Earth just isn't flat OK, here's my office in downtown SF (where I practically live anyway): Latitude 37.782607 Longitude -122.395939 I didn't bother with the bomb blast thing--I'm sure all of SF would become a plutonium parking lot regardless. BC - --- Brian Clayton "The main motive for going beyond the Rim... stemish@lns.com there's a heck of a big Taco Bell out there..." -- jms ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:52:32 -0500 From: Sean Cier Subject: Re: Alloy: mapping site Okay, here in Fairfax, VA... I'm at Latitude 38.849304 Longitude - -77.353326. It looks I'm a bit more on the edge of Ground Zero than I'd assumed; in fact, I'd actually have a chance of surviving a successful nuclear attack on the nation's capital! Woo-hoo! - -spc - -- /- Sean Cier -\ ( Dreams of falling, dreams of flying; ) ( a man who never dreams goes slowly mad ) \- http://www.PostHorizon.com/scier -/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:05:07 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) From: Brian Clayton Subject: Re: Alloy: Thomas Speaks Robin, the lecture in question was, in fact, posted to the net as a Real Audio file before. It is the 1997 NTT New Media Minds lecture that Stephen, Mary, Monya, and I attended. I don't know what the soundz.com story is, but the lecture is archived at HotWired, at: http://vip.hotwired.com/synapse/nmm/97/41/dolby0a.html The actual lecture starts about 12 minutes into the file. BC - --- Brian Clayton "The main motive for going beyond the Rim... stemish@lns.com there's a heck of a big Taco Bell out there..." -- jms ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:47:12 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Thomas Speaks In a message dated 1/23/99 5:10:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, stemish@lns.com writes: << I don't know what the soundz.com story is, but the lecture is archived at HotWired, at: http://vip.hotwired.com/synapse/nmm/97/41/dolby0a.html >> so by saying this you mean it was not bootlegged? and I can be happy again? Robin T (hopeful) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 22:01:54 -0600 From: "Guy Story, KC5GOI" Subject: Alloy: Question for Thomas and the group Hi there everyone. I have been playing on The Flat Earth Society site tonite. I love the site, it is great. My question is this, Thomas, have you entertained the idea of taking your pastand current music acomplisments both released and non-release and putting them together as a download or a cd that can be purchased? Either way I would pay for it. I know that the video material you have done would be large files to download but it, in my opinon, would be worth the time. Would it be feasable to do this and let the web browser use the Beatnik plugin do the audio work? I dont know if anyone has asked this before so I thougth I would ask. It is getting harder to find the goodies from the 80's and early 90's now and this could be the next generation. Thanks, Guy in Denton Texas. ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V4 #25 **************************