From: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org (alloy-digest) To: alloy-digest@smoe.org Subject: alloy-digest V4 #9 Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org Sender: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-alloy-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. alloy-digest Friday, January 8 1999 Volume 04 : Number 009 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Alloy: High-volume lists [Robyn Moore ] Alloy: Poetry in motion (or should that be motions) [John_Hanson_at_FRMA0] Re: Alloy: Nicks [RThurF@aol.com] RE: Alloy: Poetry in motion (or should that be motions) [Peter Fitzpatric] Re: Re: Alloy: what crackers really meant to say was.. [CJMark@aol.com] Re[2]: Alloy: Nicks (ta =?US-ASCII?Q?m=E8re?=). [John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@cc] Re: Re: Alloy: private v. public, moving to England? [CJMark@aol.com] Re: Alloy: Nicks [MacSuirtain ] Re: Alloy: Nicks [MacSuirtain ] Re: Alloy: Nicks [Kathleen McClelland ] Re: Alloy: private v. public, moving to England? [Kathleen McClelland Subject: Re: Alloy: High-volume lists At 10:18 PM 1/6/99 , you wrote: > > You know, I used to think Alloy was pretty high-volume. But recently, >I subscribed to the Gnome list (an open-source software project), and, >well. Suffice to say that I neglected to go through my mailbox since >Sunday until this evening, and as a result I had to go through no fewer >than 400 new messages. Eek. I'm really starting to appreciate the >Alloy tidbits scattered through my Inbox it in a whole new way...! I found that appreciation myself early last year. I subscribed for a period of time to Tamson House, which is a Charles DeLint fan list. I had to unsubscribe two or three months later because I didn't have the time and we didn't have the drive space to keep up with 10k of mail a month from a single list. Robyn M @ Robyn Moore @ http://www.alveus.com/kbrm/robyn.html @ You knew the job was dangerous when you took it. - S.C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 10:47:54 -0600 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Alloy: Poetry in motion (or should that be motions) There once was a fellow call Dan Whose lyrics never would scan When asked why, He said with a sigh, "Yes I know, but I try to cram as many words into the last line as I possibly can". (Apologies to anyone called Dan) A+ John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 07:12:04 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: Nicks In a message dated 1/7/99 12:06:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, elaine@qnet.com writes: << I've been meaning to ask if anyone else does this.. have a pronounciation that might or might not match the actual way something should be said. >> I have an awful habit of reading the 'html' that's at the end of internet addresses pronounced as 'hatemail'. When I'm saying an address aloud I'll even say it at the end.. then have to clear my throat & say h-t-m-l quickly to the confused looking person I'm speaking to. I pronounce Slarv's name differently in my head every time I read it, so I just stick with Slarv (that much I can cope with!) As for my own, even I pronounce it R-Thurf. It's a bad contraction with my middle initial tacked on the end (F=Frances :) but I thought it sounded good & clunky for the internet. Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 04:32:32 -0800 From: Peter Fitzpatrick Subject: RE: Alloy: Poetry in motion (or should that be motions) HA! The guy who writes songs with me is called Dan..... ....duly forwarded to him ! - -----Original Message----- From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com [mailto:John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 4:48 PM To: alloy@smoe.org Subject: Alloy: Poetry in motion (or should that be motions) There once was a fellow call Dan Whose lyrics never would scan When asked why, He said with a sigh, "Yes I know, but I try to cram as many words into the last line as I possibly can". (Apologies to anyone called Dan) A+ John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 08:52:59 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Alloy: what crackers really meant to say was.. LOL Lee.. Sorry to be so late in my analysis of your asteroids! Deep impact at least tried to be a bit more realistic, I thought, even if, as you mentioned, it was a bit sappy. Take care of those stones.. you never know when you may need to prove something! Ciao for now, Mark ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 15:25:05 -0600 From: John_Hanson_at_FRMA01@ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com Subject: Re[2]: Alloy: Nicks (ta =?US-ASCII?Q?m=E8re?=). - --IMA.Boundary.8438175190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Me too - because I learned HTML here in France, I always refer to it as "Ash-tay-emm-ell", the French phonetic spelling. A+ John ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Alloy: Nicks Author: RThurF@aol.com at Internet Date: 07/01/1999 07:12 In a message dated 1/7/99 12:06:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, elaine@qnet.com writes: << I've been meaning to ask if anyone else does this.. have a pronounciation that might or might not match the actual way something should be said. >> I have an awful habit of reading the 'html' that's at the end of internet addresses pronounced as 'hatemail'. When I'm saying an address aloud I'll even say it at the end.. then have to clear my throat & say h-t-m-l quickly to the confused looking person I'm speaking to. I pronounce Slarv's name differently in my head every time I read it, so I just stick with Slarv (that much I can cope with!) As for my own, even I pronounce it R-Thurf. It's a bad contraction with my middle initial tacked on the end (F=Frances :) but I thought it sounded good & clunky for the internet. Robin T - --IMA.Boundary.8438175190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from ns1.baxter.com ([159.198.180.56]) by ccmailgw.mcgawpark.baxter.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 3.11) id 00067729; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 06:18:56 -0600 Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.128.1.71]) by ns1.baxter.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA13039 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 06:18:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from smoe.org (080020908e73.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.204.144]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA02283; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 07:14:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id HAA07060; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 07:13:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Thu, 7 Jan 1999 07:13:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id HAA07037 for alloy-outgoing; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 07:12:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id HAA07032 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 07:12:38 -0500 (EST) From: RThurF@aol.com Received: from RThurF@aol.com by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id 8FLNa03211 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 07:12:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 07:12:04 EST To: alloy@smoe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Alloy: Nicks Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: owner-alloy@smoe.org Reply-To: alloy@smoe.org X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "alloy-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. Precedence: bulk - --IMA.Boundary.8438175190-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:19:46 EST From: CJMark@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Alloy: private v. public, moving to England? Dear Slarv.. I enjoyed your "ramble" quite a bit. It's always very interesting for me to hear about life in another area of the world. I agree with your view that the Alloy community is somewhat unique in that we tend to keep a positive attitude about whatever it is we discuss. I like to think it is based in our personalities, which also is the reason we appreciate the music of TMDR. Because his music is so vast in its approach, utilizing nearly as many different styles and sounds that exist, that to appreciate it with the depth that the Alloyed do takes what I consider to be more intelligence. Not to be elitist.. appreciating his music can be done on many levels.. but it seems to me that the ability to appreciate the variables in his music carries over into the ability to appreciate the variables in life.. in people.. in places.. cultures.. etc. Okay... 'nuff said.. Ramble on any time..!! Ciao for now. Mark ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 14:00:54 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Nicks Elaine Linstruth wrote: > > I've been meaning to ask if anyone else does this.. have a pronounciation > that might or might not match the actual way something should be said. For > instance, every time I see his "name" I say "slarvey-bargley." Amazing > enough, Sean, I knew you were "shaun seer." I still don't know if it's > "kneel leecy" or "kneel lacy." Even though I can say "Robin Thurlow," I > still say "arthur-f" because of RThurF. There are some others I don't > know about too. I had to ask Melissa, otherwise she was "mack sweer > tain." Oh, isn't that funny -- I think of Robin as "Arthur F" too. Ha! - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 14:04:37 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: Nicks RThurF@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 1/7/99 12:06:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, elaine@qnet.com > writes: > > << I've been meaning to ask if anyone else does this.. have a pronounciation > that might or might not match the actual way something should be said. >> > > I have an awful habit of reading the 'html' that's at the end of internet > addresses pronounced as 'hatemail'. When I'm saying an address aloud I'll even > say it at the end.. then have to clear my throat & say h-t-m-l quickly to the > confused looking person I'm speaking to. I thought I was the only person in the world who said "hatemail" for html. How very funny. When I say a URL out loud, I say "wuh wuh wuh dot whatever dot whatever". People tend to be very amused that I say "wuh wuh wuh" rather than "double u double u double u". I'm an odd cookie, though. - -- M. - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 11:18:01 -0800 From: Kathleen McClelland Subject: Re: Alloy: Nicks R,ThurF I usually say dub,dub,dub dot whatever, whatever, etc..... Guess dub is short for double u. NEver said hatemail instead of html. Very interesting how people say things differently.. Pax Aye, Kate;) MacSuirtain wrote: > RThurF@aol.com wrote: > > > > In a message dated 1/7/99 12:06:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, elaine@qnet.com > > writes: > > > > << I've been meaning to ask if anyone else does this.. have a pronounciation > > that might or might not match the actual way something should be said. >> > > > > I have an awful habit of reading the 'html' that's at the end of internet > > addresses pronounced as 'hatemail'. When I'm saying an address aloud I'll even > > say it at the end.. then have to clear my throat & say h-t-m-l quickly to the > > confused looking person I'm speaking to. > > I thought I was the only person in the world who said "hatemail" for > html. How very funny. When I say a URL out loud, I say "wuh wuh wuh > dot whatever dot whatever". People tend to be very amused that I say > "wuh wuh wuh" rather than "double u double u double u". > > I'm an odd cookie, though. > > -- M. > > -- > Melissa R. Jordan > Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios > Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts > http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 15:39:19 -0500 (EST) From: Russell Milliner Subject: Re: Alloy: Nicks I had a workmate a while back that pronounced URL as "earl" instead of ew-ar-el. For some reason it drove me up a wall. I've also heard html pronounced like "hit-mil". - -Russ On Thu, 7 Jan 1999, Kathleen McClelland wrote: > > R,ThurF > I usually say dub,dub,dub dot whatever, whatever, etc..... Guess dub is short for > double u. NEver said hatemail instead of html. Very interesting how people say > things differently.. > > Pax Aye, > Kate;) > > MacSuirtain wrote: > > > RThurF@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 1/7/99 12:06:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, elaine@qnet.com > > > writes: > > > > > > << I've been meaning to ask if anyone else does this.. have a pronounciation > > > that might or might not match the actual way something should be said. >> > > > > > > I have an awful habit of reading the 'html' that's at the end of internet > > > addresses pronounced as 'hatemail'. When I'm saying an address aloud I'll even > > > say it at the end.. then have to clear my throat & say h-t-m-l quickly to the > > > confused looking person I'm speaking to. > > > > I thought I was the only person in the world who said "hatemail" for > > html. How very funny. When I say a URL out loud, I say "wuh wuh wuh > > dot whatever dot whatever". People tend to be very amused that I say > > "wuh wuh wuh" rather than "double u double u double u". > > > > I'm an odd cookie, though. > > > > -- M. > > > > -- > > Melissa R. Jordan > > Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios > > Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts > > http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 12:48:19 -0800 From: Kathleen McClelland Subject: Re: Alloy: private v. public, moving to England? When I was overseas I met a many folk who were very poor. Remember a fabric store owner who told me she wanted to go to America because us Americans are always partying. In the same breath she said this, she also told me she was going out of business. Of course this revelation astounded me. This was in Ipswitch. One thing that got me was that hardly anyone had a car. Here in So. Cal. just about everyone has a car. Not many use the public transportation. Hardly anyone walks to work here. Everything is so spread out and the public transportation isn't always dependable, also there are some very strange characters that ride the bus. If you want to get in touch with the down and outers and everyone else who either can't afford a car or who could care less about driving, ride the metro system in Southern California. I used to ride the bus quite often and am very glad to drive my own car. I've seen homeless bag ladies who actually wore trash bags for clothes to fights erupting on the bus. It's an adventure everytime. That's my spin on things I guess. Pax Aye, Kate;) RThurF@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/6/99 8:08:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, > help.gonw.st@gtnet.gov.uk writes: > > < pleasant land where everyone gets on with everyone else, because it just > isn't so. >> > > I CERTAINLY don't think this, myself, having taken the absolutely-no-money- > tour of Britain... which of course accidentally included that stop in Ireland > which I've mentioned, after our airplane had a hole blown in its wing & we had > to crash land in Limerick.. I must post those photos BTW.. my first visual > image of anything in Britain being the dead monkey puzzle tree outside our > window at the Limerick Ryan hotel the next morning (decidedly un-green) My > best friend and i stayed in the most bizarrely-situated accomodations > throughout Britain because that was all we could afford. No 'Castles and Olde > Estates of England' and Sheradon hotel rooms tour for us. Our British > companions during our stay were impoverished art-school students, random > people who struck up conversations with us in the park, the rastafarian at the > laundromat in Queens Park who wouldn't stop serenading us, and so on.. and of > course the sweltering city streets. Having people think of England as a > quaint, old-fashioned green island gives me the same feeling as when people > say all americans are wealthy, loud and pushy.. it just isn't so at all. > > And I know very well also that everyone does not get on well with everyone > else, having witnessed that first-hand too... but I won't go into all that, > cause then I'll have flashbacks! > > All I meant was that people in general didn't tend to hound one to death about > being a person who likes to mind ones own business, like they do in America. > Here, it isn't considered 'normal' to want to be private & people will call > you on it at every opportunity. In England one impression that has stayed with > me is that while the most wicked backstabbing gossip sometimes abounded (!!) > everyone pretty much left each other alone in reality... > > Robin T ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 19:11:41 -0500 From: MacSuirtain Subject: Re: Alloy: private v. public, moving to England? Robyn Moore wrote: (after Robin with an "I" wrote:) > >..eh? .. resident troll? This flew right over my head for some reason the > Ah...I took it as an appearance reference, as it was attached to a > statement about how many Really Attractive People we have on the list. :) Yes, that is, indeed, what I meant. I remember when Paul first put up the page with photos of some of the assembled folk, and I just went, "Wow. These are some very attractive folks!" Of course, part of that is psychological -- I like the folks here - I've met some delightful friends in Alloy-ville - and that makes y'all wonderful in my mind -- but part of it is just the simple human recognition/appreciation for People Who Are Quite Handsome. (This is from a woman who once walked slam bang into a post because she was appreciating the most splendid-looking person.) I have an ear ache and three houseguests. I would like the ear ache to take its leave! - -- M. - -- Melissa R. Jordan Owner/Artist, Compass Rose Studios Unique Wearable Art in Large Sizes & Handstamped Handicrafts http://www.erols.com/jamesq/crs/welcome.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:13:50 -0600 From: jacksonhome@home.com (Lee Jackson) Subject: Re: Alloy: what crackers really meant to say was.. On Thu, 7 Jan 1999 08:52:59 EST, you wrote: >Take care of those stones.. you never know when you may need to prove >something! I'm thinking of posting a jpeg of them on my web site. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:45:44 EST From: RThurF@aol.com Subject: Re: Alloy: private v. public, moving to England? In a message dated 1/7/99 7:11:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, wearart@erols.com writes: << (This is from a woman who once walked slam bang into a post because she was appreciating the most splendid-looking person.) >> I did the exact same thing once too :) Robin T ------------------------------ End of alloy-digest V4 #9 *************************