And here's a perfect example of why we need this list - I love Jonny Polonsky and had *no idea* that he had a new record out...and thanks to Michael's sig, now I do. (Still not used to picking up on digital only releases as easi;y as those released in multiple formats). Bill, who abhors Facebook but loves Jennifer's posts and has learned a ton from them NP: Buffalo Killers DIG SOW LOVE GROW On 9/2/2012 4:45 AM, Michael Coxe wrote: > On Fri,8/31/12 8:15 AM, Jennifer Leduc wrote: >> I know my discussion skills are not the best but I do like share new >> bands/artists I enjoy so if it comes across as gratitutous self >> promotion, that's not my intent. > > Jennifer, you're always bringing new Austin local groups & musicians > to the fore, and many of those inspire comments (the term we sadly now > confer to what we used to call conversation and discussion). And > you're not flogging your own stuff, but the stuff you hear and love. > What could be better? I love sampling new stuff, & have listened to > much of what you've introduced, & replied to a few when inspired. > Please continue. > > Please take my complaining for what it is. Gratuitous self promotion > is a self-imposed term from posters themselves, and I found it amusing > at the time. Audities folk in prior times could be tough > (passionately) when flogging bordered on spam. And I heard stories (a > couple directly) of musicians complaining they got little > promotion/$$/whatever out Audities-List members. Audities was never a > marketplace, tho some folks mistakenly thought it would be like a band > fansite, with folks ready to plunk down cash for whatever was served > up . What they found instead were folks not unlike themselves: > misfits, musicians, music business types, writers, collectors, > lurkers, a few trolls, just plain fans (me), combinations of all these > and the simply unclassifiable. Tho possibly consumers when moved, that > movement was strictly performed to each subscriber's own drum beat. > Individually subscribers surely purchased (still purchase?) a ton of > music. > > Back to Facebook. It being what it is, Audities there ebs & flows > discussion wise. I guess when there's not alot of dancing about > architecture, self promotions tend to stand out. What's missing, and > what I dislike about most current social media, is the lack of > cohesive structure. A comfort zone. I feel adrift even when > participating, going thru motions but not emotionally connected. And > all that openness, with music discussions like these mixed > side-by-side with everyone's daily life tribulations, feels creepy. I > love reading your (you Auditiers) stuff about music and the music > world within the bounds we've set, but all that other stuff mostly no > thanks (as I hope you'd not care to read of my dull life either). > Facebook has serious structural problems that I doubt can be > corrected, per its origins as a people directory (its very name) & the > focus on "Self". Zuckerberg, with 57% ownership, will undoubtedly be > running things for a lifetime, but where is he taking everyone? > Bizarro world IMO. Some suggest Facebook reflects Zuckerberg's > personality, like Apple & Jobs, which as good an explanation as any. > > Cheers, > > - Michael > > > NP: Jonny Polonsky - Intergalactic Messenger of Divine Light and Love > One of my faves of 2012. Insanely great pop record! > > > >> > Subject: audities-digest V8 #352 (1 msgs) >>> From: audities-owner@smoe.org >>> To: audities@smoe.org >>> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:00:48 -0400 >>> >>> The Audities Digest: for the discussion of insanely great pop >>> Volume 8 : Issue 352 : "text" Format >>> >>> Messages in this Issue: >>> Re: facebook advice [Michael Coxe >>> ] >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:45:08 -0700 >>> From: Michael Coxe >>> To: audities@smoe.org >>> Subject: Re: facebook advice >>> Message-ID: <503EC5A4.5080403@gmail.com> >>> >>> On Tue,8/28/12 4:06 PM, Scott Pazur wrote: >>>> Since these lists are getting pretty quiet, I can only assume >>>> things have >>>> moved over to Facebook. I had originally given up on Facebook >>>> years ago, >>>> but I set up my account again over the weekend and now need some >>>> advice on >>>> where to go to find the good stuff like the Audities and Jelly >>>> lists used >>>> to have. Any other related groups or things would be great as well. >>>> Thanks to all! >>>> >>>> >>> The burst Audities-List activity on Facebook late last year is what got >>> me to rejoin FB (on Audities via a nom-de-plume), but it's descended >>> again into glorified adverts (gratuitous self promotion in legacy >>> Auduties-List speak) and little in the way of discussion. To me round 2 >>> experience of FB overall is much like round one, lots of posts but >>> little in the way of impassioned involvement. That includes all >>> aspects, >>> not just music lists. I'll stick around there, but I'm down to checking >>> barely more than once a week. >>> >>> - Michael >>> > >