(1) I'm still licking my wounds over the scandalously low ranking of Teenline's Shivvers CD (#67) in Borack's book ;o) (but thanks) ...and consoling myself that the Keepers "In the Meantime" CD-R could hardly have made the top 100 for being so vanishingly unseen AND unheard (152 sales to date - plus press copies and the 80 or so that the band got) (Kevin Hunt please send me your address off-list and I'll send you one!). And then there's the Bill Lloyd LP I put out in '87... (sigh. http://hyped2death.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=34&products_id=122 ) But The Wind LP still seems like the most egregious omission. (only one of its many wonderful tracks is on Teenline #105: http://www.tansleeve.com/ may be able to point you to more...) (2) Kevin is spot on with his comment: It's the amount of time & space devoted "Starbucks Rock" artists like Atkins & revisionist post about the virtues of bands like Bread etc. on Auditiies that have turned it from a "must read" to a "lets see whats up on Audtities this month" read. Maybe my pop aesthetics are more out of whack with the list then I think. The core roots of the list's aesthetic I'm guessing would come from the Beatles-Raspberries family tree. I guess where your personal branches veer off from here is where the troubles starts... But... (3) As long as folks are debating group netiquette, may I point out that in the overwhelmingly Y-chromosomed world of pop rock (however defined) fandom, one really should greet wild enthusiasm for ANY female-fronted act/band with a grain of salt - and some (preemptive) extra tolerance. Feelings are easily hurt - not the performer's, but their fans'. One lonely guy's aimee mann is another's Kirsty MacColl is another's Tori Amos is another's Laurie Bogin (sorry, had to do that - we played her LP to death back in '75 or so at WYBC - once the radio station home to David Geffen, John Pareles, Jon Tiven, Debra Rae Cohen, yours truly, Paul Kolderie, Sean Slade, and even maybe Spike Priggen)(don't ask about Emerson Bimby)... is another's Nicole Atkins or Helen Love. Once in a while she really IS the real thing, but the kindest (and most flame-retardant) policy may be to let everyone enjoy/fantasize about our 'real things' in peace --without reflexively pointing out our heroines' so evident shortcomings. Scroll down, hit delete, hum a few bars of Shake Some Action, complain about Gigolo Aunts instead, whatever it takes... (4) There's vast amounts of pop hooks (slugging it out with the usual home-recording diminished chords) out now on Messthetics #104 and #105. Not for the faint of heart (or those over-fond of American Idol), but at heart they're all, always popsongs: http://hyped2death.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=31 So what's next? peace, C. -- Chuck Warner Hyped to Death CDs/Messthetics P.O. Box 351 Westminster, Massachusetts 01473 http://hyped2death.com