I was always told by my mother to never wrestle with pigs; you just get dirty and the pig likes it. - Greg Jeff wrote: My 2 cents, my approach, for what it's worth: I think that the best way to rid ourselves of an auditeer who we're all finally just *tired of* is to completely ignore them. Don't take their bait, don't even read their posts. By now, you should know what to expect from them. They only need one "public" reply to keep them going, that's what they feed on. Don't respond to angry, toxic posts intended only to inflame. If you're just so angry that you *must* respond, do it off-list. There's so much that's good and of value about Audities, don't let the bastards get you down. ;-) Ignore them. I can't think of anything that would be more effective. Any other ideas/approaches? I understand that some people enjoy the battle of words and egos. Some folks find it entertaining. Some folks like bullfighting. *wink*. Fair enough. jeff t. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ greg cagle | greg@glcagle.com | bothell, washington