No, not interested in debating John's methodology, actually interested in folks' opinions on the list. It's become standard to speak about these as one, because that is how they are available today. But I want to know what people think about the records individually. Holmes Online wrote: > Yeah, but which one is THE Holy Grail? The fact that they're available as > a two-fer is a factor of marketing and distribution, and has nothing to do > with the records themselves, which are pretty different experiences (and > not in a band evolving kinda way, but in a whole different band kinda > way.) They're NOT one album and it's weird to talk about them as such. Won't get into the "it's John's list" trap here, because SSA clearly is, but if I were to author a list I would not include collections, 2-fers or other variations. For me, albums are a cohesive statement, so I would treat #1 and RC as separate items. But for Will's "awakening", I will consider him diving into both as the "Holy Grail". Plus, I think both make my top 5-6 and I would consider the top 10 to be "grail"-like. :) b --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.