"Black Foliage," was my introduction to the Kindercore scene. After I heard it, I went back and listend to "Dusk at the Cubist Castle," and "Aeroplane," and came away liking both of them more. There was a really terrific flowering of bands there for a while. Naturally, it didn't last. I still crack out the 3-CD "Thank You" disc that K-Core put out c. 1999-2000 and discover something new every time I listen to it. john micek ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stewart Mason" To: "Amy Nyman" ; Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 12:51 AM Subject: Re: 25 overrated thingies > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Amy Nyman" > >>> 14. Neutral Milk Hotel: I love both ON AVERY ISLAND and IN THE >>> AEROPLANE OVER THE SEA, but the latter album in particular has a cult >>> following that treats it as one of the most profound and life-changing >>> albums of all time, when personally, I don't even think it's as good >>> as the real masterpiece of that scene, the Olivia Tremor Control's >>> DUSK AT CUBIST CASTLE. >> >> Agreed. All of this. And I thought I was the only one who preferred >> OTC's >> Dusk at Cubist Castle to Black Foliage. > > See, I actually don't even like BLACK FOLIAGE all that much. I think that > album is pretty much where that whole scene disappeared up its own arse, > actually: it's really just three or four musical motifs recombined and > recontextualized over and over again. Conceptually interesting, sure, but > it's just not as musically compelling as the earlier records. It was > really no wonder they split up after. > > S > >