Hmmm....if you go back and look at the thread of this email, no one ever claimed that Joy Division were extremely skilled musicians. Indeed, they were not.  But I think you are missing the main point regarding the movie which was that the actors did a great job in recreating the look and sound of the group.  We felt that was a great accomplishment.  

Why statements regarding the actor's and filmakers's talents produced a crass comment that Joy Division were "wanks that could barely play" is anyone's guess.

Mark

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> Influence and ability are two different things. Although maybe some bands' 
> inability to play their instruments may constitute influence to some. I'm with 
> Bob on this one--I don't want to hear bands that can't play. Attitude only goes 
> so far with my ears. 
> 
> Alan 
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> ---- Mark Eichelberger wrote: 
> > Yeah, just like the Sex Pistols, the Ramones, the Velvet Underground, the New 
> York Dolls etc. etc. What nerve to think that they should actually get up on 
> stage and play music before mastering their instruments. And we all know those 
> bands never went on to influence anyone.... 
> > Mark 
> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
> > From: bob 
> > 
> > > Not so suprising considering the Joy Division was just another bunch of 
> wanks 
> > > that could barely play... 
> > > 
> > > bob 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Mark Eichelberger wrote: 
> > > That is true. I read that they originially planned to dub the Joy Division 
> > > songs to the filmed live perfomances, but the actors took to their roles and 
> > > instruments so quckly and so well, they chose to leave the group 
> > > performances intact. I saw some original live performances of JD on YouTube 
> > > and it is pretty remarkable how much the actors were able to recreate the 
> > > look and sound. 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Stephen McEntee" 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 11:06 PM 
> > > Subject: Re: Control 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- Mark Eichelberger 
> > > > wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > >> It's one of those rare "rock" movies where the 
> > > > focus is more on the people than the music. 
> > > > 
> > > > But it should be noted that the music sequences are 
> > > > really terrific - getting the actors to learn the 
> > > > instruments & songs has produced some seriously 
> > > > convincing song performances... 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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