johnashfieldmusic wrote: >>Yes/Rush/ELP/King Crimson? in fact, what about prog rock in general? A whole movement of music ignored because it's not hip?<< Not only is prog-rock not hip, it's not easily grasped by those who are only capable of hearing the almighty hook. My girlfriend goes "wheedly-wheedly-whee" when she describes prog-rock; my ex-girlfriend listened to Mike Keneally and said "I don't hear a hook." Well, she might not have heard a hook but I can hear countless musical motifs that qualify as "hooks" in my book. Hooks are where you find 'em. Prog-rock is one of the few genres that truly pushed the songwriting envelope within the confines of rock and roll; I've always maintained that the punks hated prog not because prog bands were hugely successful, but rather because the punks were incapable of mentally processing that much music in one sitting. Plus, they knew they'd never have the discipline to play, let alone compose, within that style. I swear, the whole basis of my songwriting existence has been the concept that, had the Beatles never broken up, they would've begun incorporating long-form songwriting (aka prog) into their style (hell, side two of Abbey Road is practically prog). My favorite prog music always bookends hooky vocal melodies with jazz/fusion instrumental segments into one glorious musical trip. I miss the days when songs took listeners on a journey (like Edgar Winter's "Frankenstein" or Golden Earring's "Radar Love" or Led Zep's "The Rain Song") rather than simply smashing the listener in the face with an endlessly repeating hook. YYMV. And, of course, I agree that the RRHOF is a joke, but even so, Yes, KC, ELP and Rush definitely belong there. Rush, especially, if only for their song "Limelight", which takes a weird time signature and makes it seem totally natural and unforced -- no small achievement, that. kErrY www.myspace.com/kompost NP: Led Zepplin -- Houses of the Holy (been on a LZ trip lately; seems like every 15 years or so I re-discover LZ and find something new to steal LOL) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/index.html