C'mon people, it is an obvious joke. zoogang@cox.net wrote: >The Beach Boys and The Beatles ripped off the Rubinoos?! Wow! In related news, the Rolling Stones ripped off George Gershwin. > >Let the legal mudslinging begin. > >Alan >http://www.buhdge.com > >Man, I love the Rubinoos as much as the next Auditeer, but that is just... > > >---- Ron Katcher wrote: > > >>Yes, Steve, I am a lawyer. When I re-read my post just now, I realized how >>"lawyerly" it sounds. Sorry about that; it is an occupational hazard. My >>wife is an attorney as well, and you should see how quickly our >>disagreements turn into cross-examinations! >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Steve Alter" >>To: >>Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 1:35 PM >>Subject: Re: FW: Statement from Avril Lavigne's Manager In Regards Pending >>Lawsuit >> >> >> >> >>>Are you a lawyer, or did you sleep in a Holiday Inn Express last night? >>>;-) >>> >>>Ron Katcher wrote: Histrionics aside, I think >>>the only statements from an artist in a copyright >>>infringement case that would be relevant would be those that have some >>>bearing on how the alleged infringer might have had access to the >>>underlying >>>material and whether the subject use/copying was or was not authorized by >>>the rights holder. Whether the Rubinoos THINK Avril (or for that matter, >>>the >>>Raspberries, the Beatles or anybody else) ripped them off is really beside >>>the point. >>> >>>In the end, settlement is (or at least should be) a reasoned business >>>decision insomuch as the settlement value should make sense when weighed >>>against the cost of defending the claim and the risk of a larger award. >>>Avril and/or her management may be pissed off now, but in the end, cooler >>>minds will prevail. If it made sense to pay $X to settle the case on July >>>3, it will likely still make sense to pay $X on July 9-- barring some >>>significant development. >>> >>>To my ear, I do not think the songs are similar enough to warrant a >>>verdict >>>in favor of the Rubinoos. The chorus is clearly derivative of other works >>>and I think a song can pay "tribute" to another work without infringing >>>upon >>>it. The fact that one refers to "boyfriend" and the other refers to >>>"girlfriend" is not, in my mind, determinative and for me at least, begs >>>the >>>question of whether this claim would even have been filed (or if the >>>Rubinoos would have much cared) if the chorus were, say, "Hey, hey, you, >>>you, I'm a mechanic." >>> >>>Ron K. >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Steve Alter" >>>To: >>>Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 12:09 PM >>>Subject: Re: FW: Statement from Avril Lavigne's Manager In Regards Pending >>>Lawsuit >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Well, judges don't tend to have great senses of humor, either; that post >>>>may bite them in the ass when they have a musicologist comb through the >>>>Rubinoos catalog, which is full of references -- some intentional, some >>>>less so -- to many other songs and artists. >>>> >>>>I'd say an out-of-court settlement just walked away, and Nettwerk's gonna >>>>play smash mouth ball here. >>>> >>>>Will Harris wrote: >>>>Clearly, Terry McBride has no sense of humor, based on his below comment >>>>about the "issue" he thinks the Rubinoos have with the Beatles. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>_____ >>>> >>>>From: Sheri.Ladner@sonybmg.com [mailto:Sheri.Ladner@sonybmg.com] >>>>Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 11:44 AM >>>>To: NonStopPop@cox.net >>>>Subject: Statement from Avril Lavigne's Manager In Regards Pending >>>>Lawsuit >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>IMMEDIATE RELEASE >>>> >>>>July 9, 2007 >>>> >>>>Below is a statement from Avril Lavigne's manager, Terry McBride in >>>>regards >>>>to the pending lawsuit against her. Avril's response can be found at >>>>www.avrillavigne.com >>>> >>>> >>>>Dear Media >>>> >>>>I have read the following quote from Tommy Dunbar of the Rubinoos. >>>> >>>>"While it's true that we filed suit some time ago, we hesitated to go >>>>public >>>>to save Avril and her handlers any embarrassment," Tommy Dunbar said. "We >>>>learned over the July 4th holiday that her management and spin doctors >>>>have >>>>apparently decided to preempt things with their revelation of the >>>>lawsuit." >>>> >>>>This is simply a lie. I challenge them to provide one iota of proof to >>>>back >>>>up this claim. We did not say a word about the suit out of respect for >>>>the >>>>dialog that was ongoing. The numerous phone calls from the media seeking >>>>comment on the suit started on July 4th. We were blind sided and simply >>>>responded. >>>> >>>>We also find it ironic that in the Suit they named Apple as a defendant, >>>>what a great way of getting it out there to the media. >>>> >>>>On the topic of Apple, it seems like the Rubinoos have an issue with the >>>>Beatles among other great bands. This quote is directly from the Rubinoos >>>>Myspace page "Bands that have ripped us blind: the Rasberries, The Beach >>>>Boys, The Beatles" >>>> >>>>As we have clearly stated, upon the expert opinion of one of the >>>>country's >>>>foremost musicologists, there is no basis for this claim >>>> >>>> >>>>Best Regards, >>>> >>>>Terry McBride >>>> >>>>C.E.O. Nettwerk Music Group >>>> >>>> >>>>Contact information: >>>>Mika El-Baz >>>>Sr. VP of Publicity, RCA Music Group >>>>Ph: 646.840.5670 >>>>mika.el-baz@sonybmg.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>--------------------------------- >>>>No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >>>>with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. 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