Well, I would say that you potentially answered my question with part of what you have said here (even if you are aware of this or not). But, I would say that "New Wave"-collectively was for the most part - a unique and new sound that rivaled the Beatles . Collectively that is. On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:50:28 -0400 "Stewart Mason" wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John L. Micek" > >> When you're a teenager or in your early young adulthood, >>you just >> feel *everything* more intensely -- because it's new and >>because >> it's exciting and because you just don't have anything >>to compare it >> to. Obviously, that feeling diminishes some as you get >>older (but >> not when it comes to falling in love -- that rush >>remains the same >> no matter what) for a lot of stuff, music included. >>That's because >> you're able to draw lines between records and realize >>that this band >> was influenced by this band, who were obviously >>influenced by this >> band. You start to appreciate music along a continuum, >>rather than >> have those "Holy Shit!!!!" moments you had when you were >>a kid. >> I feel the same way about hearing U2 and R.E.M. for the >>first time. >> Those records, because they were the first ones I heard >>during my >> musical coming of age ("Under A Blood Red Sky," and >>"Reckoning" >> respectively) remain more vital and intense for me >>because they were >> the first. They were the ones that inspired me to become >>addicted to >> Pop music and to start playing and writing my own music. >>It's pretty >> safe to say I probably would never been in bands or made >>records >> without having heard them. >> But I wouldn't be so vain to say that everything that >>came after >> them was inferior or were pale imitations. And that's >>the essence of >> the argument that's being made in other posts, and it's >>the one I >> object to heartily. > > There's another music list I'm on, where I believe I'm >about 5 to 10 years younger than most of the other >regulars (38 at the end of June), and I once wrote a >moderately long post about the importance of 1984 in my >own personal musical growth. Basically, the gist of it >was that it was kind of a sea change year for me because >a lot of the bands I had really liked in the few years >prior to this all released terrible albums that year: U2, >the Human League, Duran Duran, Icehouse, Adam Ant, Aztec >Camera (although to be fair, I've grown to like about >half of KNIFE, but it was a bitter disappointment at the >time), several others. And there was at least one person >who at first had genuinely thought that I was writing >some kind of deadpan parody of those sort of people who >had gotten terribly disenchanted with rock after the >'60s, until he realized that I wasn't kidding and I >really did like all those bands when I was 13 and 14, and >still like them now. The idea that there were people who >had strong teenage associations with bands he had >disparaged at the time simply had never occurred to him. > > And John nails it perfectly: whether folks mean for it >to be there or not, there is a strong stench of >generational vanity to the claim that SGT. PEPPER and PET >SOUNDS are the alpha and omega of rock and roll. It's one >thing to say that they are your own personal >cornerstones, but there was an argument made that, >indeed, everything that came after was, implicitly, >inferior and imitative. Which...no. That's not for you >to say. > > S >