Just finished listening to their first album in the car - like it alot - the new one I heard in a friends car - he got it offf iTunes- said he had a little trouble locating the cd - and I thought it was very above average. Great guitar/pop/punk - emo-y at time but the vocals don't have that over the top yearning/crying vocal style that I'm tired of - good old fashion normal singing. I searched my email archive - I don't think they've been talked about on the list - but many here would like it I think. Link to Stewart's review of the first album: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:qlu36j7471q0 -- Lee Elliott