Hey Steve D - I was at that Summerfest show! I drove from LaCrosse and Dream Syndicate were the openers. Great memory...I had forgotten all of that or maybe I forgave them b/c they played "Carnival of Sorts (BoxCars)" for the encore. Did you see the Merlyn's show or the Stock Pavillion show in Madison? I missed both, but I have a boot of the Merlyn's show and I heard about the Stock Pavillion show so much in college that I felt like I was there - I think every house party I went to had a cassette of that show. ----------------------- Hey Stewart, Sounds like you caught them live a bit before I did. My question is what was Stipe like live. Like probably others on this list I was very into REM early on but I did start with Murmer. I was in Madison, WI from 83 to 85. I first saw REM at an outdoor show in Milwaukee...I think it's called Summerfest. Anyway, I was very excited to see them and it was great fun. But the hair to nearly his waist Stipe had his back to the audience most of the time, with hand to one ear to make sure he had JUST the right vocals and even layed on the stage at one point. OK, even through my biased excitement I thought this was a bit much. So, I believe less then a year later they played in Madison. The long hair was gone and so to was the sullen, "artist" persona. He was jumping around like a mad man and really playing up the showmanship. It was a lot to get my head around at the time. So just wondering, which version did you get? Steve D __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com