And yes...another fascinating occurrence in the pop music world, as both RICK GALLEGO (Cloud Eleven) and RICK HROMADKA (Maple Mars) were gracious enough to put in rehearsal time to perform with me as part of the band I used to play at IPO in L.A. back in July 2003. And MAPLE MARS' debut album in 2001, "Welcome To Maple Mars" was the final release on my dearly departed Permanent Press label. Still rockin' in Western NY, Ray Paul www.permanentpress.net/raypaul.html