A blog I read that rarely mentions music recommended a Philadelphia group called Brown Recluse Sings. A bunch of nerdy young kids that make some namecheck the Shins, Page France & even the Zombies (?), but to my ears sound like a softer Hang Ups, in a good way. 4 songs on myspace, of which I like "Western Meadowlark" best: http://www.myspace.com/brownreclusesings Now I didn't know who Page France were either - person or group? Group from Maryland, not as interesting IMO. Their 4 songs: http://www.myspace.com/pagefrance - michael