>As long as we're talking about the Pistols and Ramones
>-- neither The Saints nor Radio Birdman are in,and for
>that matter Pere Ubu.  To some extent, they predate
>the Ramones (though much more obscure, at the time).

Thanks for mentioning Radio Birdman.  Too bad that they were from 
Australia, as otherwise they would have been bigger.  And 
unfortunately, the production on the CDs trashed the original mixes, 
ruining them.  For more information about that, see:

http://web.mit.edu/london/www/r.html

I spent about a year trying to make decent CDRs from the LPs.

Radio Birdman created a sound which others have tried to duplicate, 
but IMHO no one has come close to caputring.

Mark