Yes, I would say hopeless if your aim is to make a semi-decent living at it. Sure, there's the occassional exception (Fountains of Wayne?), but I'm sure 99% of the current bands found in Not Lame's catalog have day jobs. As for knowing the odds before you get into the game - I don't know. All I've ever done is write and play music that sounded good to me. I suppose I could've played metal or blues or country or whatever but that's not what I do.... And I'm not whining - quite the contrary. I have a happy, wonderful life and I still make music. I'm just glad I don't have to depend on it to pay the bills. It looks like my one live gig this year will be at IPO San Francisco and that will only cost me $1000 dollars or so. But I'm sure looking forward to it. Bobby > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 18:48:06 -0700 > From: "Bryan" > To: > Subject: Re: Doug Powell going, going gone... > Message-ID: <026e01c5874c$ea22a350$f029fea9@533034B8A6DF4D9> > > Robert Sutliff wrote: > >> Quite frankly, the "music business" is a hopeless proposition >> for someone who elects to play artful pop music. There is just >> zero money in it. > > Hopeless? I don't think I agree 100%, though I empathize with > your situation -- I wouldn't say that someone who elects to play > artful pop music is putting themselves in a hopeless position, but > you gotta know the odds before you get into the game, right? > > Bryan