haha i guess i'm a whiner. good thing i'm a buddhist, i guess. :) cool at least someone with some merit wrote a couple songs. but i'm not the biggest fountains fan either. they have some great songs (sometimes), but to me, not a solid album so far. just a whiny opinion. i know most everyone on this list thinks theyre the greatest. and it just so happens i dont think the click five stuff sounds good at all. it's not that i resent them because they're getting bigger (hello - my favorite band the smithereens were top 40 for chrissakes. oh and if we're getting technical, the tweeter center probably wouldnt count as a small, grassroots start.) it's ok when bands get bigger. i just like them to sound like they deserve it. :) just opinions, people! geez. it's all we have anyway. everything's out there for a reason. some reasons are just harder to figure out. heheh. -- Jake Beamer http://www.powerpopzen.com 603.264.2247