First, Greg cites one of the most memorable articles I have ever read. I know that everyone cites the David Marsh/Lester Bangs era as the glory days of Creem, but the years when Kordosh, Richard Riegal, Billy Altman, Bill Holdship, John Mendelsohn (w/Eleganza) and the inimitable Rick Johnson ruled the roost in the late-'70s/early-'80s were great. Second, Greg -- I wouldn't say that the classic era of Stones was prostitution. And I don't know if I'd use the word now, but I certainly don't get the feeling that much of what they do comes from the heart, other than the joy they get from performing. Does that sound reasonable? Mike Bennett --- "Sager, Greg" wrote: > Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 06:17:09 -0700 (PDT) > From: Hersh Forman > To: audities@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Stones to tour ... > Message-ID: > <20050512131710.60697.qmail@web53007.mail.yahoo.com> > > You tryin' to say you like those songs??? > > > Who, me? Naaaah ... > > This is very reminiscent of one of my favorite > pieces from the classic > *CREEM* era of the late seventies. It was a J. > Kordosh piece entitled, > "Rush: But Why Are They In Such A Hurry?" It was > screamingly funny, mostly > because Kordosh was smart enough to let Neil Peart > hoist himself upon his > own petard; it was impossible after reading that > article to see Peart as > anything other than one of the most pretentious > musicians on the planet > (even by prog-rock standards, which is really saying > something). It was so > good that I can still remember large bits of the > article to this day, even > though I haven't read it in over twenty years. Keep > that in mind as I > attempt to reconstruct this from memory: > > The article starts off on the wrong foot in > journalistic terms, because > Kordosh can't get Geddy Lee to accede to an > interview. Seems that the > Gedster had taken offense to a *CREEM* joke piece in > an earlier issue that'd > had a composite rock-star character in it named > "Geddy Lee Roth". Peart did > agree to sit down with Kordosh on the record, and it > soon becomes apparent > in the article that this was mostly because Peart > loved the sound of his own > voice and had a heavy tendency to pedantic ranting. > It also became clear > that, if he had a sense of humor at all, even an > electron microscope > wouldn't have been able to detect it. > > Peart began the interview by excoriating Kordosh and > his magazine for the > "libelous and destructive slander" it had > perpetrated upon his bass player > and friend, and suggests in no uncertain terms that > *CREEM* should either > issue a printed apology to Geddy or close its doors > in shame. He hints > darkly that there would be serious repercussions for > that particular piece > of satire. Kordosh, wondering what exactly Rush > intended to perpetrate upon > his employer, asks him if there will be some sort of > litigation involved. > Peart's response, "Are we talking crimes or morals > here?" leads Kordosh to > suggest in the article that Peart, for all his > speechifying, clearly spends > a great deal of time talking out of his fundament. > > Moving on, Kordosh muses in his article that he had > entered the interview > puzzled as why Rush appeared so intent onstage upon > not making any mistakes. > "This struck me as strange, since their entire > repertoire is a mistake unto > itself." (The article is full of such snarky > comments about Rush's music, > another one being, "Geddy played -- excuse me, > strapped on -- a Rickenbacker > bass.") He asks Peart why Rush is so hell-bent upon > recreating their studio > material note-for-note onstage. "I mean, I've seen > the Stones slop up songs > beyond belief. I once saw Keith so stoned onstage > that he went into the riff > from "Brown Sugar" right in the middle of "Honky > Tonk Women". It was pretty > cool, actually. It sounded OK." > > "You don't like them," Peart says in response. > Kordosh writes, "He didn't > say it like it was a statement of disbelief. He said > it like it was a > command." > > "I think that they've written some good songs," > replied Kordosh. > > "There's nothing to their music at all," insists > Peart. > > "I think that they know how to connect with people > musically," Kordosh > retorts defensively. > > "That's because they're whores." > > "A strong word ... a very strong word." > > "Yes, but not necessarily a judgmental one. It all > depends upon how you feel > about prostitution. Are the Stones astute marketers? > Yes. Do they place any > intrinsic value upon what it is that they're > playing? No." > > The article was full of such gems. Peart described > the Who as "a bubblegum > band" and later made some denigrating comment or > other about Paul McCartney. > Kordosh writes, "I didn't say anything in response, > but it occurred to me > that, however harsh a term one wanted to use to > describe McCartney's > mercenary tendencies, the bottom line was that he > could write, sing, and > play music better than Rush and the entire National > Hockey League combined." > > Now, Hersh, it's not as though I'm saying you're an > arrogant snob like Neil > Peart. It's just that it's impossible for me to read > your reply without > thinking of that long-ago *CREEM* story about Rush > in which Peart said much > the same thing about the Stones as you just did ... > only he was deadly > serious. > > > Gregory Sager > Chicago Pop Show Report on Yahoo Groups: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/chicagopopshowreport/?yguid=162827291 Music reviews: http://www.fufkin.com My Space blog: http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog&Mytoken=20050501203609