RE the Tsar thread: I agree that their first CD is quite good - very exciting, powerful, fun, melodic. I haven't heard the new one, and based on the unanimous pans, I have no reason to. However, I do have an extra copy of the first CD - the good one - for trade, if anyone is interested. Other good (dare I say excellent?) pop CDs that I have up for trade include At Home With Cherry Twister- Cherry Twister Big Money Item - Greenberry Woods Nest - Odds Bang, The Earth Is Round - The Sugarplastic Come On Feel The Lemonheads - The Lemonheads Email me with your trade list if you are interested in any of these. Dave seamand@upmc.edu