In reading the Game Theory vs. Loud Family discussion here, it really has struck me that you tend to fall most in love with what you hear first. My initial experience with Miller's oeuvre was the Loud Family's 'Plants & Birds & Rocks & Things,' and in my opinion, nothing before or after has come close. I felt like there were diminishing returns on each subsequent Louds record, and when I went back to investigate Game Theory, I found the thin, 80s production really hard to ignore. Overall, I still think PABARAT has the strongest set of songs done in the most interesting way, and with the most appropriate production. It's among my top five albums of the 1990s, in fact. Man, what killer pop songs! Last Honest Face, Jimmy Still Comes Around, Areodeliria, Slit My Wrists, Inverness, Take Me Down, the Second Grade Applauds...the whole album is just great! I like the weird little experimental moments too. Rather than being distracting, I feel like they hold the album together, forcing the listener to hear it as one piece (despite all the amazing songs I list above, which can easily stand alone). I've tried to get into Lolita Nation, as all its reviews make it sound most like the Game Theory era's equivilant to PABARAT. It definitely is my favorite GT album, but the fact that it's so hard to get your hands on has made it more difficult for me -- the only copy I could find without paying $50 or so was on cassette, so obviously I don't listen to it that much! Also, I've always thought it was a shame that Miller for so self-conscious about his voice. Never did an interview go by when he didn't mention it apologetically. I've got two signed Loud Family relics - a set list from 1993, and a photo from 1998, and on both he's written something like: "Thanks for coming out to see us, Shawn. Sorry my voice was so challenging!" Finally, I saw half a dozen Loud Family shows, and they never disappointed - always fun and engaging. Miss them! --Shawn __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com