> > Uhhh...co-write credits with these people, (and Celine Dion and Prsley, > and > > other high-end Artists), usually means that it was part of the deal. The > > real writer probably was lucky to get half the publishing if that... > > Well the real writer should put the song out instead of selling it, > then. All parties know what's in it and what's going to happen. Or, > they should. > > And I assume you mean Elvis Presley - I thought everyone knew he > barely sang OR wrote ANY of his own songs - seriously, try finding > one. Hard pressed. All old black R&B songs. Not to say they ain't > good. Love Elvis. > Well, this points up that we're really talking about two completely different animals, the singer-songwriter and the performer. One might argue that the Beatles were among the first very popular singer-songwriter artists, and that paved the way for a boatload of them in the '60s, '70s, and beyond. The "performer" tag still applies to a good many pop artists (good, bad, or indifferent -- I don't mean either to praise or damn them, just making a point), and the prevalence of major stage shows with extremely challenging choreography raises the bar for a "performer" to be that much more proficient in ways completely aside from songwriting. Flip side of that coin, a whole lotta singer-songwriters don't have the best voices or the best stage presence or the best (heaven forbid) dance moves. Makes for a different kind of art altogether. Neither being more valid than the other. Depending on one's biases, of course. Two cents offered. Accepting change in return. Christopher