Mildred and Patty Hill Done without a Goolge search but I do read movie credits constantly and it is in about 1 of every 8 movies or so. -r Np..v/a -Second Thoughts -------------- Original message -------------- > At Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 20:49:40 Barry wrote: > > >Gee Jaimie, you have such great things to say . . . usually. These > >however make no sense to me at all. > > > > > 1) It was Pink Floyd's "Dark Side Of The Moon" that was sent up in the > > > Voyager explorer to the other side of the galaxy....NOT the Beatles. > >It's > > > all about frame of reference. > > > >So, a couple of dude at NASA liked the irony of that selection, or maybe > >they actually liked the record. That says zero about history. > > But it perfectly discredits Josh's assertion that the Beatles are the Alpha > and Omega. If the Beatles were the zenith by which all pop culture is based > there would have been a Beatles record on board....and to further illustrate > I must also add that Chuck Berry had a recording on that flight as well. > > > > 2) With the exception of Queen and The Dave Clark Five, The Beatles > >were nearly the last hold out to join the CD revolution. > > > >There were CDs when the Beatles and the Dave Clark 5 were recording? > >Can't say that I remember that. > > > > > 3) The Beatles "template" will not survive the Internet.....as they've > > > balked at the idea of MP3 downloads on any website other than Apple > >Records. > > > >I know nothing about what is or is not on Apple Records' website (okay, > >I didn't even know there was such a site) but every Beatle recording > >imaginable is available all over the net. > > Again, two examples to illustrate that the Beatles may have BEEN the > template (back to Josh's mail), but they no longer are. Once that grip on > popular music/culture/what have you slips from their grasp, time will > determine how they will survive the coming communications revolution. > > > > In 100 years the Beatles will be but a footnote. There will have been > >more > > > names and more FIRSTS to have overshadowed everything they did for > >those > > > brief 8 years. Just as Wayne Gretzky overshadowed Rocket Richard and > >Gordie > > > Howe...so too shall someone overshadow him. > > > >I am no more a seer than you are, so you could be right. Richard and > >Howe were hardly cultural touchstones (at least in the US), so Gretzky's > >catapulting over them in hockey's recordbooks is not a good analogy. > > Yes, it is. Richard and Howe were the definition of hockey during THEIR > period. They held all the records, scored all the goals, dominated the media > and defined what hockey was. Gretzky came along, beat the records and > popularized the game in the eyes of AMERICA....just like a little band from > Liverpool did. > > >What I do know is: we are 35 years into your 100-year period --- a fair > >ways, I am sure you will agree --- and I hardly see the Beatles on the > >road to being relegated to a footnote. > > Doesn't matter....I'll give you another 30 years from now and the result > will be the same. With the Internet levelling the playing field and popular > culture becoming but footnotes on the internet ("Click on the button marked > 1960's to see what Hippies and Viet Nam were all about"). > > We can get into a whole sociological debate about information, but that > won't change the fact that archives aren't being back-dated. We're moving > forward without taking stock of our past and only those with a boner for > nostalgia are keeping the spirit alive (I happen to be one of them...which > is why I wrote The Canadian Music Encyclopedia -- I live in a nation whose > entire 100 years of musical output has NEVER been measured.) > > I realize these are broad strokes, but the Beatles become merely trivia to > those who didn't live through their influence. They're not gods and their > accomplishments can only be measured by the culture that it affected. Once > all the boomers are dead and their children, and radio sinks into the tar > pit it now inhabits, The Beatles become just another band that gets played > on Oldies radio stations. > > And as for the assertion that "She Loves You" is some reigning beacon of the > band's enduring qualities, I offer the perennially more popular "Happy > Birthday" and defy 3 people on this list to name the author of that song > without doing a Google search. > > > Jaimie Vernon, > President, Bullseye Records > http://www.bullseyecanada.com > Author, Canadian Pop Music Encyclopedia > http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusicPopEncycloPages > >