<> Haha different strokes, I actually love both of these. I don't even consider them 'guilty' pleasures, I think they're flat-out great. Most people would probably agree with you though. --Jason I can think of much worse than these two surely...*Picture This* is one of my faves from the 80s and H&O are soulpop legends imho. So what do you guys think of other 80s "classics" like Air Supply, Men At Work, ATF, OMD, Simple Minds, Psychedelic Furs, Spandau Ballet, ABC etc etc I will say one thing though, I now believe that the Smiths were vastly overrated...