Hey Jocelyn, It might be music, but is it science or is it art, dat is da question! Even the dictionary don't seem to know :-) Seriously all, rap is music, any suggestion to the contrary is clearly preposterous! B^) ~~interesting. are the african tribal drum beats music? are old slave chain gang recordings of just chain and axe on rock/wood music with low guttural groans/moans music? are the child street drummers here in chicago who play with drumsticks on 5 gallon buckets (3-5 of them at a time -- totally mesmerizing, entirely rhythmic, incredibly engaging) music? as usual, when in doubt, i go to my old friend, www.m-w.com: music: n. 1 a : the science or art of ordering tones or sounds in succession, in combination, and in temporal relationships to produce a composition having unity and continuity b : vocal, instrumental, or mechanical sounds having rhythm, melody, or harmony Bob Hutton Analyst IS DG2 Tel: 0131 245 1429 For more information on Standard Life, visit our website http://www.standardlife.co.uk/ The Standard Life Assurance Company, Standard Life House, 30 Lothian Road, Edinburgh EH1 2DH, is registered in Scotland (No. SZ4) and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. Tel: 0131 225 2552 - calls may be recorded or monitored. This confidential e-mail is for the addressee only. If received in error, do not retain/copy/disclose it without our consent and please return it to us. We virus scan and monitor all e-mails but are not responsible for any damage caused by a virus or alteration by a third party after it is sent.